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The hilariously insightful Billy Procida of the Manwhore Podcast, joins the show to talk about mastering the art of gangbang planning, and of course all with a side of laughter and a dash of real-world savvy. Get your notepad and pencil ready because this show has some essential tips on making your gangbang fantasy become an epic reality.
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Speaker 2:It's like remember that you're the most important person in the room. You call all the shots and we are all there to ideally, listen to and follow your directions. And yeah, like sometimes people get sore, people get tired and the thing is done before everyone got to go. And that's just fucking life and, like these guys will, they'll deal with it. It'll be okay, definitely good to keep the lube around. You know, there's definitely a lot of moments where, like someone calls out lube and then like there's like three guys scrambling around looking for the lube and rushing to bring it over.
Speaker 1:That's a cuck job. Yeah, I think there needs to be more of more gang bangs where it's women fucking a guy.
Speaker 2:I agree, we should start by planning mine and we can test it out from there.
Speaker 1:No, but this is the catch Women pegging the guy. This is the Venus Cuckoldris podcast a place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious, for the passionate and for the sexually empowered woman who wants it all. Let's go. Welcome to the show, everyone. I'm your host, venus. Thank you so much for joining me today.
Speaker 1:I have Billy Bracida, who is a comedian and host of the man Whore podcast, joining me and we're going to talk about planning a gangbang like a champ and, as you can imagine, this show is going to be the perfect combination of hilarious and educational. But first I have a few announcements. The first one is about Crystal Welch. She is going to be going live with myself in the Queens Quarters community. This is going to be the first time that we'll be testing out this meetup feature, which seems pretty cool. It seems like a live hangout kind of thing where you guys can hang out and join in and we're going to have a discussion. We're going to be talking about her column that she wrote for Medium and it's called Monogamy is Dying and Women are Killing it, so we're going to be talking about that and she really wants to have some feedback from all of you. So join in, it's free. The link is in the show notes for today. Oh, and it's going to be April 4th, it's a Thursday. It's going to be at noon Pacific time, that's 3 pm Eastern. My second announcement is also about Crystal Welch.
Speaker 1:Her and I teamed up. We did a rate and review bonus episode where we went through all of the comparison picks that were submitted on a Twitter thread that I put out there asking for comparison picks. We went through each and every one of them and we rated and reviewed them and it was, as you can imagine, hilarious and kind of savage, but anyway, I put it all together and we just put it out as a bonus episode. So if you are a member of any one of the supporter tiers on venuscuckholderscom, then you got access to that bonus episode on the private podcast. Or if you subscribe to Apple Podcast Subscriptions, you got it there too.
Speaker 1:Last but not least, I'm talking about Doc Chocolate. So the pillow talk that was. I think it was like the beginning of March. I had Doc Chocolate. We were on the show, we were talking about something that was brought up. I thought I said, wouldn't it be fun if Doc Chocolate tried chastity? And so he agreed and he's going to actually try chastity for a period of time and it's going to be so interesting and we're going to talk about it on the next Pillow Talk. We have not set a date for it yet, but we will soon. So make sure you check the events page on venuscuckoldresscom, because that's going to be. It's going to be so good, it's going to be great. Okay, that's it for announcements.
Speaker 1:Let's jump into the show today. Here we go. All right, let's get started. So, joining me on the show today I have Billy Presida, who I have been a guest on his show. This is the first time being a guest on my show. Billy Presida is the host of the man Whore podcast and that is sex positive conversations and he's celebrating his 500th episode. Has it been 10 years that you've?
Speaker 1:been 10 years Holy shit Okay, so welcome to the show.
Speaker 2:Billy, thanks for having me. Yeah, leah, the 500th episode was last year and you might like this. I went down on five different women and then, after I left the room, they each reviewed me on mic.
Speaker 1:I love that so much because I've done a few bonus episodes for this podcast where I had people send in their favorite cuckold porn videos and I thought I was going to discover some amazing stuff and so I was all excited to review them and everything like that and they sucked Like they were shit.
Speaker 2:So what makes a bad cuckold video?
Speaker 1:oh god, so many things. Um, sometimes it's just like the whole plot is terrible, or, um, a lot of the times it's this really fake squeaky, moany, breathe through your teeth thing that the women do, that guys don't realize. I think that that's like really, really really fake and performative. But for me, when I'm watching it, I'm like no, I can't.
Speaker 2:She's like oh, and he's just, he's literally just like pulling her panties down and she's like yeah, it's just not realistic and the reason the guy falls for is because he's clearly never been in that situation.
Speaker 1:I just think guys are really simple and so it just doesn't take a lot. So but.
Speaker 2:But the thing is like if you watch like certain like fantasy pornos but they're fantasies you've also done, such as a gangbang, I don't know I'm kind of watching it be like unrealistic, I can't really, I can't emotionally, erotically get into this porno because this is all off. You would never be playing that playlist and, uh, you would never be arranged in this way. And come on now, how often do we really try to fit three dicks in one mouth? Not this often.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God, I can't wait to ask you about that because, yes, that's exactly what I want to know. We're going to be talking about how to organize a gangbang today, and this is really important for me because I am saving my first gangbang for my wedding night and, yeah, so I want my first gangbang to be my wedding night, and it's going to be like five of my favorite black guys, and I'm excited for it, although I got to find my husband first, but I'm excited.
Speaker 2:I was going to ask like are you engaged, did I miss something in the newsletter? I'm missing that piece, but I was gonna ask like are you engaged? Did I miss something in the newsletter?
Speaker 1:I'm missing that piece, but anyway, but I'm really looking forward to it. But I have this image in my mind of what it's going to be like, but I really don't know what it's actually going to be like because I haven't done a gangbang before and I't even think that like I've watched an actual in-person gangbang before and, to come to think about it, I don't think I've actually watched a gangbang in porn. I think I've watched like a few little bits of some, but I've never actually watched like start to finish. So I'm going to be learning a lot from you today and I'm really excited about this. But first I want to talk to you a little bit about your show. So if you want to just quickly explain what your podcast is all about, other than just going down on five women and them reviewing you, yeah, 10 years ago I started doing a podcast interviewing my exes about why we didn't work out.
Speaker 2:Um, these are like ex hookups, ex partners, ex lovers, ex girlfriends and just be like. You know, I had this problem where, you know, in my early twenties and in college, you know, women would sleep with me but they wouldn't date me and I wanted to know why. So when I was 24, I launched this podcast, like reconnecting with these women and having conversations about that, and they would always branch off into discussions about, you know, gender and sexuality and relationships and love and all that stuff. Occasionally, gang bangs is what would come up and since then I have expanded, you know, my guest list. I talked to porn stars. I talked to to dating experts, comedians, uh. Musical artists, uh, cuckold dresses. You know it runs the gamut. I even had on a state senator once. So you know. But we have a. I host sex positive conversations every wednesday and so 10 years?
Speaker 1:okay, 10 years ago were podcasts a real big thing. They weren't right, so you were like they weren't right, so you were like a trailblazer they weren't big.
Speaker 2:They weren't big, but like there were big podcasts. I launched mine, I want to say like a year or so before Serial came out. I feel like that was like a big inflection point in podcasting was Serial season one, but like Marc Maron was already out here, joe Rogan was out here, dan Savage was already out here, but like Mark Maron was already out here, joe Rogan was out here, dan Savage was already out here, even even Cunning Minx was already doing her poly podcast for years at that point.
Speaker 1:So I wouldn't call myself a trailblazer, but I was definitely. I think I got in early. Ok, yeah, I are the only ones that I know of that have been around a long time, other than you are. Like Dan Savage, I know he was like one like he goes way back with podcasting and stuff like that, I guess because I didn't really find podcasts until maybe like five, six years ago, something like that. So a decade ago I was like definitely not in the podcast sphere.
Speaker 1:But I think it's amazing what you've done, and you, you work really hard on it. You, you uh put out weekly episodes, don't you? Yep, I've never missed a wednesday in 500, plus wednesdays that's fucking amazing because, like I, I put out an episode every other week and I find that hard enough. But, um, I don't know how you do it. That's a lot of work and planning and and finding guests and and doing all the preparing and all the editing and everything. And you do it all by yourself, or do you have a team?
Speaker 2:uh, it's just me.
Speaker 1:There's no team wow, okay, yeah, I. I just think that's amazing. So good on you. 500 fucking episodes, that's a lot. That is amazing. Um, what have been some of your most memorable shows?
Speaker 2:I mean episode 500 was like really up there that was. That was like a sequel to, uh, something I did. Episode 180 was the original oral sex auditions where a a friend of mine she was sexually frustrated and complaining about dudes who don't eat pussy. So I said like let's hold auditions and like I, so we. Just it was the original one was I found five guys to go down on my friend for I think I gave them all 12 minutes to make a first impression. I do like pregame, postgame interviews. You know they come out, they come out of the room, they're sweaty like LeBron and I'm just like, ok, so you know how'd the strategy go. And then after they left she would tell us how it really went and of course that becomes like just an overall discussion about like pleasure and you know the low bar that is for men and and oral sex and all that stuff. So and that was like my most popular episode for years until I did 500. During COVID I did a glory hole episode. That was fun.
Speaker 1:How do you? Okay, I have a question here. Okay, this legit. How do you? Okay, I have a question here.
Speaker 2:Okay, this is legit. How do you not get canceled? No, there's no one to cancel me. There's no, you know Apple, they'll just let you do what you do. I'm not on YouTube.
Speaker 1:Yeah, youtube is pretty strict, yeah, okay. So I think that's amazing that you haven't had any pushback like that.
Speaker 2:that's really good, because I have patreon, patreon will give me pushback. Um, yeah it, I I was. I flagged myself as adult content forever ago back when they introduced that, I thought, oh, I should you know this is clearly adult. But then I realized that what they meant it was for porn. But then it took forever for me to get that tag taken off. So a couple of years ago I got the tag taken off. I deleted a few posts that I needed to delete to be in compliance, but I got, because the only reason it matters to me is because you can't search for the man Whore Podcast Patreon page in the app unless you're already a member, and so it's just, it's like a barrier to entry for joining. So I get taken off.
Speaker 2:And then they uh, last year they reapplied it and when I was like, why is she like, well, here's one example of adult content you make, and it was my bonus episode for episode 500, and the bonus episode in their defense was I just I took all okay, during that, during that oral sex audition episode, I had a microphone next to the bed to capture. Like those sounds right, and I use them as transitionals because there's a lot of moving pieces in the episode. So in between each one you're going to hear her moaning or like giving me an instruction or whatever. Uh, so I just did a bonus episode that was all the moans, just the moaning, just all that part, uh, so it's like an hour of hearing me eat pussy.
Speaker 2:Uh, I think you, you can actually hear a squirt, like on the waveforms, like when I'm editing in audacity, I could see that's, that's a squirt, right, that little see that. Yep, that's a squirt sound apparently, uh, in a in a wave format. And so they flagged that because because they were like you're literally just broadcasting sex sounds and I'm like, all right, you got me, you got me on that one dead to rights. But yeah, uh, otherwise we can talk about whatever we want on on apple podcasts and spotify and stuff. I think that's a really great part about podcasting as a, as a art form is that you can just there really isn't a lot of censorship going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's for now, anyway. Hopefully it stays that way.
Speaker 2:Knock on linoleum.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely Okay. So oral sex auditions I absolutely love that. I should do that one day because, yeah, I think that the bar is really low. I can definitely relate. I actually listened to a clip from that episode where the chick was talking about how she's like I will let him die down there trying. I was like, yes, she's like they literally do die sometimes because they suck so bad. I love it, I love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that woman made me sweat, Like that was just like I felt like I put in a lot of work. I left the room and I had to, like I actually iced my forearm. I grabbed an ice pack, I put it on my left wrist and because I, you know, we did them all in one night, so I was like waiting for the next one. I was like Jesus is like getting an injury in the second quarter.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I love it. Okay, so let's talk about how to plan a gangbang. So I, yeah, I really want to have a gangbang on my wedding night. I have I don't really know much about it. I, I have questions for you.
Speaker 2:So funny Cause like, yes, I've, I I've participated in a fair amount of gang bangs. I've organized several myself for people who asked I'm not actually into gang bangs, it's not like my thing, Like I've organized them just because people asked and they were like I just feel like you could pull this off and it's like I actually could, and let's make it, you know, let's make it happen to the point that now I've kind of got like a little bit of methodology to it. Uh, I wrote a 2700 word article for mashable last year. Uh, how to throw a gangbang. It never saw the light of day because it got written. Uh, we fully edited it, they fully paid me for it, and then the editor-in-chief was arguing with my editor about having the word gangbang in the title and they kept saying, hey, is there another word we could use?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I asked around, there really isn't. They'd be like what about group sex? Different thing. What about sex party? There's no other word for gangbang than gangbang.
Speaker 1:Yeah, apparently, but yeah, I've apparently got a lot to say on the subject so you started doing gangbangs and you, you came, you said you came up with like a formula that works. Was your first gangbang that you did? Was it awkward as fuck or what? What was it?
Speaker 2:a great experience I mean, the first gangbang I attended I probably was 22 or 23, uh, I think it was just like some hotel room in uh in like downtown brooklyn. It was weird. Yeah, I think the actually first time a dude like has like touched my dick because like I'm about to go enter the wife and then the husband like kind of like grab my cock to like guide it in oh yeah yeah, and it's like, okay, I guess he doesn't want me to miss like what's going.
Speaker 2:Um, you might actually be able to offer something into that. Is there anything like in like cuckolding culture where, like the guy, like the husband or whoever's like helping the cock fuck his wife? Is that like part?
Speaker 1:of it. Yeah, that's a thing. It's basically very symbolic. It's like, okay, I'm gonna make, I'm gonna help make this happen for her kind of thing but he didn't ask you.
Speaker 2:He didn't ask you first I would have liked the warning. I would have liked, like in the emails because there's a lot of emails, I think. I think a well-organized gangbang has a fair number of emails with instructions, and I feel like that could have been included of hey, I might hold your penis briefly as you get close so I can put it in her. But you know, we survived it, okay.
Speaker 2:So I actually remember straddling her face, like put my dick in her mouth at one point and I was like self-conscious, like, oh God, like I hope, like my ass doesn't smell too much, like I feel, yeah, like I hope like it's not gnarly back there. That it was like I remember farting like three hours prior and I guess I'm just like I was like worried, I'm like shoving all that smell into her face, but yeah, seem to have a good time it's funny the things we think about when we're in these different positions and stuff.
Speaker 1:I totally get it yeah, yeah, yeah um, so okay, and how many? But how many guys were in that situation?
Speaker 2:that hotel room. I, I don't know. I think it was a little bit of a revolving door thing, like people would kind of come in and come out, but like there were probably about like a dozen dudes, I would say wow, okay, all right, and so I want to know this, first and foremost gang, gang bangs, what you see in porn.
Speaker 1:Okay, so she's like in the center of it all and you've got these guys all around and they're, like you know, beating their meat and waiting for their turn, and and she's just like, oh my God, this is amazing. I got so many dicks everywhere and they're everywhere and I'm doing all this stuff. Is it very? Is it all performative like that when you actually have a gangbang? Is it like that? Or is this really about everyone having, uh, pleasure during this experience?
Speaker 2:you know, one of the most unrealistic things about a gangbang porno is that there's never like in the background two dudes who already went and they're just talking about the game. Okay, for the fact that no like there's, you can't kind of hear in the background it's like, yeah, and I hear the steelers are going to take russell wilson, that's that that's not in the video makes it not real to me. Okay, because there's a lot more socializing happening uh usually than uh than is then is depicted. Uh, I think every gangbang can be different. I think it all depends on what that central figure uh wants. Uh, technically, anyone can be gangbanged. Anyone of any gender can be gangbanged. I'm gonna say a lot of she, her, just because, like that's kind of context of like I feel like you're seen, but like yeah, yeah, like any, anyone can be gang banged. It's just. I think gang bang is where there's a central, um, central star, you know, she, the, a certain leading person who's going to be the recipient of all this penetration. Uh, but yeah, so I think it depends on what she wants.
Speaker 2:When I have had women ask me to organize these events for them, one of the first questions I ask is like if you had to pick a vibe word like what's a word that describes the vibe of what you want? Right, that's going to give me an idea of, like how we should set this up, what it should look like, what it should sound like, you know, are lights on or lights dim or lights completely off? Are you blindfolded? Are you not blindfolded Like? One woman wanted to be blindfolded because she wanted to then be able to walk around New York City and if somebody kind of looked at her funny because she has got a really distinct hair hairstyle, she wanted to be able to think have I fucked that person?
Speaker 2:Are they looking at me Because they know they've had sex with me Right, and then I invite one. I invite one at me because they know they've had sex with me right, and then I invited one. I invited one friend, a chick, with a strap on, so that way he's like everybody was suspect. So, depending on like what it is she wants out of the, out of the experience will determine, like again, how social or whatever the uh, the event is and what the vibe is is there, like a good number of guys, to have the like for each woman or?
Speaker 2:I mean I think, again, it depends on on what she wants, what the vibe, what's the like? One woman wanted me to invite a lot because her the her vibe word was challenge. She wanted to see how many can I actually take before I tap out, right. So I think I, I think I reserved like 27 dudes for that one. Not all of them showed up, a lot of them actually bailed but like. So I think we ended up with like 16, 17 who came through, but like, I think I reserved close to 30 because she, because that's what she wanted, others it's like.
Speaker 2:I think like five is already going to be plenty. Um, and then also, I think that depends on your body. You know what can your vagina take, you, you know your pussy better than I do. And also like, size, like what kind of size dicks do you want? Do you want to have like, do you want to have five dudes who are all like at least six, seven inches, or do you just want to do? You want to have like 20 or 15 and there's, but they're all sorts of shapes and sizes, so you can. You can take it all right, like, do you want to take 25 inch sticks or do you want to take five, nine inch sticks like these are the questions one has to think when they're not trying to get a real job, you know.
Speaker 1:Right, Okay. So, and as far as like timing and stuff goes, like I feel like in porn everybody comes all at the same time, basically at the end, Right, I mean? Or something like how does it work?
Speaker 2:It's like an experimental porno. We usually want like a nice linear timeline, right it's? Uh, it'd be weird if it was like the Tarantino thing. It's like everybody comes on her in the front and then we see how did that occur, you know it's. Then we flash back, uh, you know again, everything ends up being to her customization. But yeah, like typically they're coming in the middle and at the end, I mean, some people want like a bukkake, where they want like they want a bunch of people to come on them and it's almost like an event. And some but very often and it's also practically helpful is you're just you come when you're ready to come and you, that ways you can also tap yourself out. It's how we can get new people in.
Speaker 1:So you know, unless you have a particular preference, usually I noticed that guys will just kind of they finish when they're ready to finish okay, and so is there a rule about like you, you know you don't come inside her because there's other guys that still have to fuck her kind of thing. That's the. Is that like a rule in gangbangs or?
Speaker 2:think of like almost any rule. It's just gonna, it's gonna be to you know what she wants. If somebody doesn't want and I mean I've, you know, I mean also like we're using. When you say come inside of, like I, do you mean like bareback, or do you mean yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean like I haven't been part of a cream pie gang bang. Oh, I did one, that's right. I did one. I didn't finish during it. That was my. That was probably my worst showing I've ever done.
Speaker 2:I just like I, you know it was weird because I flew out for my friends, like I forget what birthday it was, but like I flew out in 2021 to sacramento for her like birthday gangbang and we all like did the testing and pre-arranged to um to do that. And then I just, you know, couldn't, couldn't go that day. It was uh, it's like is tyreek hill gonna be in the game and it's like game time decision and I just like like I technically fucked her but and came inside her, but like it was very brief, as in like hey, I've achieved the erection, let's just let me and technically I was the only one, the fucker, like everybody had a bad showing, like it was not a great gangbang. Um, like we were all, I think yeah, it was a little bit of an odd one, but uh, yeah, I think the rules for that were to like, come inside her when you were ready.
Speaker 2:I think that was kind of the idea. It was like we all knew what we were getting into. But typically, uh, you know we're using condoms and so typically you, just you come when you come. It doesn't matter if you come inside her or not. I think the only time it matters is if she has a request where it's hey, I want you to come on me, so please don't come when you're fucking me. You know that. That would be one alteration I could imagine.
Speaker 1:Is that like? Is it easy for guys to plan it like that Like, or is?
Speaker 2:that a lot of pressure to get it right. What to plan? Like pulling out to come on someone? Yeah, just like when and where to come and everything like for centuries we've been pulling out right, and so think of all the porn in the 60s. They pull out and they come on them right that we know when we're about to bust.
Speaker 1:So okay, I'm just like and is there a lot of pressure for guys who attend a gangbang? Is there a lot of pressure for them to like, I don't know, perform well, just, not just for her, but like to?
Speaker 2:for the boys yeah, to look like I don't want to see lame in front of the guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, is there that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like Jim's not going to let me in his fancy football league if I don't do a good job here. Yeah, I think when recruiting for a gangbang, I do think it's important to have a mixture of experience levels. I mean, somebody might want only experienced people because maybe they don't have the patience for anything else, but you're going to want some people who are really comfortable for when the guys who are a little more tepid, uh are having a hard time, like you need someone who's going to kick it off. You need someone who can tap in pretty reliably, uh, because you know you're going to have some new people. And this is you know. For some guys it's going to be their very first gangbang. For some guys it's going gonna be the first time having group sex or seeing another penis in person, like that right. So I think it's good to like make sure you have a couple ringers in there, like where you're like I know I'm gonna get fucked if, like, a lot of dudes get shy.
Speaker 2:I have the, the friend who wanted to be blindfolded. She had an ex forever ago uh, try to arrange her gangbang and then, like when they were all in the room it was like three other dudes. They were all like really nervous, they were all really new. None of them could get hard. They were all really shy. They all kept like kissing and touching and playing with her pussy but like none of them like would fuck and so eventually, like the, the boyfriend who arranged it had to fuck her in front of these guys and then just sent them all home, which is like really disappointing, right, like you think I'm gonna get overwhelmed with all this cock. And then it's like well, it's just the one cock.
Speaker 1:And then an audience which is the one that I know really well and I'm used to it yeah, and that can be hot for people if that's the scene you want.
Speaker 2:But that's not the scene you put together. Right, you want to get fucked by a bunch of people you didn't want to get. You didn't want to fuck in front of a bunch of people. So, uh, definitely make sure you have some experience in the room, for sure and how long do gang bangs usually last for? I legitimately don't know the answer to this how long do you think you can get pounded for?
Speaker 1:yeah, that my pussy used to be such a champ. She's a weak little bitch these days. Real fucking disappointment.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I don't know. Definitely good to keep the lube around. You know, there's definitely a lot of moments where, like someone calls out lube and then like there's like three guys scrambling around looking for the lube and no, that's a job.
Speaker 2:That's a job yeah, well, if there's a cucky gangbang. I haven't really been a part of those, but yes, that would definitely be a cuck job. Yeah, well, if this is a cucky gangbang. I haven't really been a part of those, but yes, that would definitely be a cuck job if we had like that designated fellow there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yeah. He would have the lube, the towels, the get me a drink like whatever you need that kind of thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you, probably. I would probably need like the Costco size lube for that. But yeah, no, no, I for longevity. Like I guess some women can just keep going and going and going. Maybe some women don't want to keep going and going and going. But like I'm just like, is there some with the with the guys? Do you guys talk about this beforehand or does? Do you just know automatically? Or with a new guy, do you explain to him? Like usually you just you only fuck her for like a few minutes and then it's someone else's turn.
Speaker 2:You gotta like hand off, you know, or I don't know how does it work like that if there's space for us to like be talking, then yeah, like I've definitely had guys say like, oh, it's my first time like any any tips, any suggestions, whatever like that. But again, it just depends. Like that hotel room there wasn't going to be any discussion, it was you enter in quietly, undress and get in there when you're ready, and so you know, good luck. And then there's other times where, um, we all met up for drinks beforehand with the woman um, nearby, like that was kind of part of the thing was you had to meet at this bar and we all kind of like stood in a circle and we're talking about our previous experience before we and got to know each other before we all went up to this apartment to fuck her for like an hour and when he was speaking to the time I think you know anywhere from a half hour to an hour is like probably how long it will last. About you know and like with breaks, right, like sometimes it's, sometimes she like raises her hand and says, hey, I need a break or I need to use the bathroom real quick, or if your headspace goes in a certain direction, you might need like a few minutes to just like collect yourself and maybe you need to talk to your master, your dom or your husband or whatever and say, ok, well, and then, and then you reenter. So, so length of time can include like breaks and stuff like that in terms of like the guys talking to each other. Yeah, like it just depends on how it's set up.
Speaker 2:There was a blow bang so again, not a gang bang, this was just blow jobs. But this one had like there's probably like 20 of us about, and so there was a bedroom and then there was like a bigger, like living room, ish type of space, and most of us are in that living room. You're only in there when it's your group's turn. They had us draw cards just to get us into some groupings and yeah, so like we weren't in that room when it wasn't our turn. So when we're out there, we're hanging out, we're having a drink, we're talking to each other, you know about the game or about tips for a gangbang, whatever, um, and then eventually be okay, you know, clubs get in there, you know, and then then it's our turn to get to work.
Speaker 2:Uh, then sometimes you get to know a dude, real well, uh, that that blow bang like at one point she wanted to. There were two women involved blowing all of us, so this one woman was blowing me and this other guy and then wanted to get us both into her mouth at the same time, which, like she asked like can I do that? And we were like sure, uh, but then I required us get quite close. And there's a man I don't even think I know his name, or I just learned his name Like as like my dick went in her mouth. He said and I'm John, right, and then, but we had to get like real close at the hip, like you know, arms around each other's shoulders, just just so that we can fit both our dicks in her mouth at the same time. So, yeah, you make new friends. He and I are married now, so okay, all right Together 17 years.
Speaker 2:It's so funny how a lot of guys get really, really weird about like the touching body parts with another man and like it's like, oh my God, I'm crossing a boundary here, like what I don't know it is you know, think about it is crossing a boundary if you've never had that experience before and if you've thought about like sexuality in a very certain way which, like a lot of I think at least my country, like you know views things. So you know, if it's someone's first time, yeah, it's gonna be jarring. When that guy grabbed my dick to put in his wife, like sensationally it, like I'm not, I don't want to say alarm bells, I want to say, just like pings went off, like this is different, new sensation and also something I wasn't expecting and something I don't. I'm not supposed to associate it with pleasure. And I'm associating it with pleasure because I'm entering his wife, which feels great, but like I did just have a man's hand on my dick for like of like three seconds, which just felt sensationally different, right.
Speaker 2:And then the first time, like I shared a mouth with another guy, yeah, that felt like, oh, my dick is touching another dick in this mouth and that's new and different. So you know, I think. I think it's about how can a guy go shake it off and go, okay, cool, and look, the world didn't end, everything's fine, let's continue enjoying the experience. Or does someone get in their head and get really freaked out and then needs to leave the room and journal. That's definitely a play too. Just be chill about it. But it is in their defense. It is different. It is a different sensation. It is crossing a boundary or crossing swords. It's definitely new.
Speaker 1:Crossing swords. Yes, I've heard of that before.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:It's interesting to me. Okay, what not to do during a gangbang. What are the big fucking red flags where you're like do not do this?
Speaker 2:Ooh, I. I mean I was in between rounds. I had gone once. I was like waiting to go another time, so I went to go drink water, check my phone and right on my alert screen on my phone, new York Times notification said that Barbara Walters died and I had to fight everything to not blur out to everybody. Oh my God, barbara Walters died.
Speaker 2:Right, don't do that. First off, it's a good start. Uh, don't not shower. Right, like clean wash your ass. Don't be the smelly guy. Uh, you don't want to do that. Uh, don't be pushy. I mean a lot of these don'ts, like the reversals are just really good tips Like listen, like read the emails in full or the instructions in full. Don't push boundaries.
Speaker 2:Ask for things that haven't been covered. If there are things that you want. I've sometimes had to ask like if, because, especially because I think swingers or in gang like these can, when there's a couple involved, it can sometimes be touchy, but like I love kissing. So sometimes I've had to ask like, in gang, like these can, when there's a couple involved, it can sometimes be touchy, but like I love kissing. So sometimes I've had to ask like is kissing okay? Because if they didn't cover it and I know I want to do it, then I should ask for it. I should not assume I can just go ahead and do that, right, uh, just because you like you shouldn't go stick a thumb in someone's butt if we haven't covered the butt stuff, right, you should ask.
Speaker 2:You say, say like, can I put a finger in your butt? Or if, if everything's left to him cause, a lot of women want to be kind of mindless in the situation. You want to be lost in the pleasure and they kind of um hand, uh, delegate the responsibilities to some sort of overseer. So you might ask him can I put a thumb in her butt? But you know it. It's like be conscientious in that way, be you know. So, while you're being selfish because you should be a little selfish, it is a gangbang, you're just fucking you should also like remember to be thoughtful and considerate of others.
Speaker 2:So, wash, I said that Don't show up drunk and fucked up. Don't be fucked up. Yeah, like, that goes for most sexual situations, but especially this it's. It's like we had someone vomit at a gangbang once and it was weird. I mean not in front of us, they went to the bathroom, but then, like, I went to the bathroom after, and then I looked in the, in the and I, before I went, I looked in the toilet and it was just like full, oh, gross right yeah, because like now I, to go back in and get turned on again, ugh.
Speaker 1:Oh nasty.
Speaker 2:You know, I think, and don'ts. For you know, and for the person, for the central person, for the superstar, right, I think a don't would be to like, don't put other expectations on the scene other than your own. Don't think, oh, I had all these people came out and so I'm feeling this way, but I shouldn't, because, like, they all came out and so I should just take it, whether it's because they're too sore and they need to stop, or they need a break, or if they don't want to do anal. But some guy is like really saying he wants to do anal or, um, whatever it may be, it's like remember that you're the most important person in the room. Um, you call all the shots and we are all there to, ideally, listen to and follow your directions. And, yeah, like, sometimes people get sore, people get tired and the thing is done before everyone got to go and that's just fucking life. And like these guys will, they'll deal with it, it'll be okay.
Speaker 2:Um, sometimes people will be like I think I'm done fucking so, like, if you want to come on me right now, like I might hope you out a bit with my mouth, but we're like the pussy's closed for business or my knees are tired, whatever it is. Uh, don't be afraid to like, ask to change positions, right, just, I think, uh, gosh, if there's, I think we allow women feel so deferential to men sexually in a gangbang. It's so many men and that some might amplify the being deferential. No, no, no, this is, they're all your sex toys. Like this is your time to call all the shots and don't be shy about it. You're not a bitch, you're not frigid, you're not whatever it's like. This is your scene. I think that's really important for them to remember.
Speaker 1:I love that advice so much because, yeah, I could definitely see how it would be slightly overwhelming for me to be in that position of feeling like I need to like, pleasure all of these guys and make sure that they all come and that they all have this amazing experience, when I'm like I should just get that out of my head and just be, like. This is about me.
Speaker 2:Like, yes, it's you getting these guys off, but it's for your pleasure. Like the pleasure at the end of the day that matters the most is yours. So even when you're thinking I'm supposed to pleasure all these guys, but you're only supposed to because that's what you wanted and it's okay if all of a sudden you stop wanting that, yeah, and whether that means you need to end the scene entirely and say, hey, y'all, I think I'm good tonight, or if you just need to take a time out and be like hey, I need a little break. Uh, can someone get me water? I'm gonna use the bathroom and then we'll. Yeah. Like again, just don't be shy about that. I, I can't stress that enough yeah, great advice.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you've participated in a bunch of gang bangs and um it's funny you say a bunch, by the way, because like, I don't think of it as a bunch but like for society standards.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Cause they measure it. The society measures gang bangs as one gang bang, two gang bangs, three gang bangs and then so many gang bangs Like there is no number after three. It's just wow, you went to a bunch, but yes, I've been to my fair amount.
Speaker 1:So have like. Have you noticed that there's important things about setting the mood or important things about being prepared as far as the environment and the atmosphere goes? I'm assuming there's going to be important things like making sure that you have towels nearby, that you have I don't know drinks, or that the lighting is nice, or are there any other tips that you can give people who are planning their first gang bang, where they might not think, oh, I should, I should do that. This would be a good idea to set it up this way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Again, everything is customizable. But the things to think about to be like how do I want that aspect done? It's yeah. Things like what kind of lighting do we want? Do we want to be blindfolded or not? Um, playlist there's. You know you don't want to do a gangbang to silence that's disturbing, yeah uh, get a playlist put together.
Speaker 2:You can search gangbang and find gangbang playlist on spotify. My, I had a. I had somebody who wanted a gangbang. She had a friend. Make her a playlist for the gangbang, right, but you do want to consider that Orientation of the room. If this was something more blowbang-y, like where it was going to be blowjobs, okay, that could be anywhere because we might be on our knees. But it's like, do we want to be on the couch or bed? I remember the one the night Barbara one the night Barbara Walters died. You know, never forget. Rest in peace. But you know it was like we started on the couch with her. Eventually it moved into this bedroom and then later it moved back out and, you know, onto the couch, depending on, like you know, what positions you want to be in. You want to think through, yeah, things like towels, having lube nearby, like within arm's distance of somebody, making sure you have water or your beverage of choice nearby, probably both. Again, you know you also shouldn't get too fucked up.
Speaker 1:Have some Gatorade.
Speaker 2:Gatorade, yeah, just some sort of, you know, because that's gonna happen. You, you know, bitch, gonna get thirsty at some point. Um, what else, uh, you want to consider? Uh, I think, uh, in terms of, like, safety parameters, you want to like really get an idea of one. Like, what are the boundaries you want to set up? Uh, what are, what are the rules you want to put in place, also protocols for that like, I think the traffic light system is really good.
Speaker 2:I, I think that's like a real simple one, but whether it's traffic light or, uh, you know, going yellow, red, green, uh, or just a safe word of some sort, uh, you want to plan that out in advance. And I do think it's really important. If you're having a gang bang I do not care how confident a bad bitch you are you should have like like a gangbang chaperone. Oh, that can be a cuck. A cuck. I guess I imagine everyone here is probably using a cuck for this, but that can be like kind of anybody, but it, you know, there should be a person who's there for your safety and to like tend to your needs, which, yeah, is very cucky. But there are people who I just because I'm not a cuck. So I just want to I'm, I want to make I'm, when I organize the game, things like I'm fucking too, um, just to be clear for a moment. Uh. So so you need to get like, you want to get on the same page with that person, because when you let go, they're in charge and you need to be able to trust that they can handle the situation. Because you want to really let go. You don't want to have to think about anything. You don't want to have to think about is this guy about to cross a boundary? Is this guy too fucked up? You just want someone who can kind of coach the thing once it's going on. So that's also, I think, really important.
Speaker 2:Aftercare, I think, is a good thing to plan out. Like, what are you going to do afterwards? Like, after all, the dudes leave, whether that's everybody or everybody except your cuck it's like what's afterwards, like what's going to make you feel good? Maybe you need to get a schedule massage for afterwards. Maybe you want to just have a really good bubble bath with some candles. Like, maybe you want to get stoned and watch a movie. But like, maybe get an idea of like, what is it? Like I'm gonna want, like is there gonna be a comfort food that you're gonna want to be able just like devour once everybody's out and, okay, cool, we want to make sure that's that's stocked.
Speaker 2:Whatever's needed, yes, snacks snacks, maybe not during the gangbang, like nobody needs to get, you know, uh, cheese it fuzz in someone's pussy. But you know, I think I think that's a good to have, maybe for after. But yeah, I don't think as many people think about after the gangbang. What one needs again, not just that in that way, but also mentally, is like there, are you if it's particularly kinky, maybe if you go into some subspace, is there someone there who's going to be able to help bring you down and and hold you and make sure you're, you're all set, Um, so these are things to keep in mind.
Speaker 1:I'm so glad that you brought that up because, um, with the, my gang bang on my wedding night, this was going to be like hardcore angsty for my cuck, obviously, because it's her wedding night and I'm fucking all these other dudes in front of him and it's just very symbolic. But aftercare, I hadn't thought about that. But that is something we're going to need to plan into all of this. And the nice thing about having like a cuckold gangbang is that, like your cuck is there to be with you afterwards and is there to clean up, clean up the room, clean up your pussy, like clean it all up clean up the dicks, if that's, if that's the way they go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's his job, so so that's wonderful, but I love you. Know what you said about having somebody there to make sure that you can just turn off your mind and enjoy and not have to worry about stuff. I was at a hotel takeover party last year and I did a reverse glory hole, which is where the women either lay down or bend over and have the curtain come down on their waist, and so I had to have a gatekeeper there with me, because I was like I'm not just allowing just any fucking dudes to walk up and like I'm no, I need somebody to like manage this shit.
Speaker 2:My manager how did you, how did you kind of decide which which strangers were going to get to engage with your body parts that were exposed?
Speaker 1:I didn't. But I had my friend, doc chocolate, who's host of the bulls and queens broadcast. He was there with me and so he was like the guy that stood next to me and was, like you know, instructing the guys on what to do and stuff, and so that was good and I wouldn't have had it any other way Like you. Just, you need somebody there who's going to like, hold the condoms and the lube and make sure everything goes well. But there, even make sure everything goes well.
Speaker 2:But there is Even logistically, you just need yeah, it's like that's even just you just sometimes just need an extra body who can do certain, who can open the door because somebody's late, although I think if you're late you shouldn't get to go to the gangbang. That's my personal opinion.
Speaker 2:If I see the door the hotel door is going to be open from 8 to 8.15. At 8.16, it will be closed. I don't know, Like, oh dude, the subway was running behind. I don't know, but being on time means being five minutes early. That's how I was raised.
Speaker 1:Yes, absolutely. But there is something really erotic about getting fucked by people and not knowing who those people were. So when you talk to you about your story about the woman who was blindfolded, that was fun. Actually, the sex, you know, is not like. It's not like you go in a reverse gangbang or reverse glory hole to for the sex. You do it for the fascination of not being able to see anything of the person right and so being able to walk around afterwards and like not, I'd be like, did I fuck you? Did I fuck you? Was it you? It's kind of fun, it's thrilling like that. So I can understand where putting a blindfold on during that whole thing would be super, super fun. But also very important for me to actually be familiar with these guys who are going to be in my first gangbang, knowing them really well. They know me really well and then hopefully they know each other too. That would be ideal. So there's that. But I think honestly there needs to be more of more gangbangs where it's women fucking a guy.
Speaker 2:I agree, we should start by planning mine and we can test it out from there no, but um, this is the the catch. Uh, women pegging the guy I need to start with my first, pegging first but which I'm also saving for love.
Speaker 1:But uh, one, then sure yeah, I think this like needs to be a thing, because I saw something on instagram, uh, yesterday where it said something like there was some research study that found that over 60 percent of guys are silently, secretly, hoping that they can be anally penetrated. And I'm like, yes, what secretly? Or, yeah, they won't say it, I don't think I'm part of that 60%.
Speaker 1:Oh my god but I'm like, okay, I really do feel like guys would really enjoy being pegged, and it doesn't make you gay, I don't care what anybody says, it is simply being pegged and it doesn't make you gay, I don't care what anybody says, it is simply just about pleasure and it is a great experience for guys. It's a great experience for women. I've never thought I would like pegging, but I fucking love it. But I think that maybe there should be some cuck gang bangs and if I had a cuck, I would definitely do that. I would get all my girlfriends together, we would gang bang this dude, like it would be. We would peg the fuck out of him. It would be so fun. Actually, that would be really great.
Speaker 2:I'm getting all of these ideas.
Speaker 1:But I think that needs to be more of a thing because, yes, like like I understand that gang bangs are focused about like one usually you said before it could be anybody, any gender, but you know, a lot of times important is like one woman and she's kind of being like overwhelmed by all this dick and it's about and that's really like the energy. But can we like flip the script a little bit and have the guy be like overwhelmed by all of this, like big pussy, energy and like you know?
Speaker 2:please, so long as all they'll all kiss me on the mouth and call me pretty at some point like, yeah, sounds great.
Speaker 1:Help me put that together I think that would be amazing.
Speaker 2:We need to like make this an actual thing what if that was the first time I did pegging, though?
Speaker 1:oh my god, yeah, you should make a podcast episode about it I don't know if I gotta be that public about it.
Speaker 2:Like my father is still alive, so it's oh, now you're shy about that. That one thing, everything else doesn't matter but you know we do share a google alert.
Speaker 1:We have the same name I think you should do an episode about it losing your ass virginity.
Speaker 2:I think that would be great I you know, look, my last girlfriend. I thought would if, if I thought, hey, I think this is the woman I'm gonna finally have pegged me and then, uh, you know, that didn't work out. I just want the first one to be with someone like I mean it's, it's like I'm a a kind of religious 16 year old girl where I'm like, no, I just want my first, but the first one. I want the first one. That means something. The rest don't, but the first one should be special and I, I would, I, I would like the first time I I get I do pegging to be with someone like I care about, that's intimate who loves me, but like, if not that what you described, not a bad backup, I'm open to that. If somebody wants to put together four-ish women to peg me all at once, I think I'd be able to scratch the original plan for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love it. Well, there's definitely an art to taking a guy's ass virginity. I've learned this from Ruby Ryder. She's an amazing educator when it comes to like pegging and stuff, but yeah, so there's an art to it, but it's and I cannot totally understand why you would want it to be with somebody who you you know it's soft and tender and loving and everything like that, because a lot of what you see in porn with pegging is like I'm going to fucking break your ass open, you little bitch. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:See, I'm not little bitch type of energy. I'm like I want to be an equal. While I'm on my knees, yeah, but yeah no. And I don't think even once I get in the pegging I don't know how much I'm going to be into like yeah, fuck me.
Speaker 1:I think I want to be made love to. We'll see.
Speaker 2:Venus is like mine, might be a little bit bigger, it might be a little bit rougher and you know it's fine to have one of those. You got to have one of those in the lineup, right, like if I had, if I look, if I lost, like it would have to be a lot, a lot of babes with, with small, with with thinner. Sorry, it's not about length, right, it's about the width. So I would. I need some mostly thinner, but like you gotta have like one girthy one in there, you know, just for good measure, just to just to surprise you, just to make you go Whoa, okay.
Speaker 1:I think you would really love it. But anyway, keep me posted on how that that goes. We're we're pretty much all out of time for this really fun episode on gangbang planning. So I really appreciate you coming on. I've learned so so much about this Because, like I said, I didn't I really don't know that much about it. So I appreciate that you've shared all of your helpful tips and experiences with me regarding that. Where can people find more information about you? Listen to your show? All that good stuff.
Speaker 2:I am on Instagram at Billy is proceed. I'm on Tik TOK at the Billy proceed. That's P R O C I D? A. And in New York city, if you're in the New York city area, I run a monthly naked comedy show in Brooklyn. It's very fun. We do two shows a night every month. Next ones are March 22nd and April 26th, and you can also again find information about that at awhorepodcom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've seen your naked comedy shows and well, I've seen them censored and I love how you do the big censored down in the middle of your legs, like this. You're censoring something that's hanging real low.
Speaker 2:I want you to think that yeah, oh, you to think that yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, you crack me up, Billy. Anyway, thank you so much for being on the show today. I have had such a great time with you.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having me Always a pleasure.
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