The Venus Cuckoldress Podcast

How Hot is the Re-Penetration Sex Between Cuck and Wife? - With Confident Cuck

Venus / Confident Cuck Season 4 Episode 13

Confident Cuck joins the show to talk about the cuck experience, identifying as a cuckold, sexual denial, and advice for cucks who are stuck on the fence. He also dives into the super hot topic of re-penetration, reclamation, reconnecting, or whatever you want to call it sloppy seconds sex. Basically how hot it is to have sex with your wife after she's been with her bull!

Confident Cuck (Gianni) is a popular cuck blogger who discusses all things cuckold https://confidentcuck.wordpress.com/

His Twitter: https://x.com/ConfidentCuck

Links from the show
Confident Cuck - are stags really cucks? https://www.buzzsprout.com/822292/14336251-are-stags-actually-cucks
Cuck My Life Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/cuck-my-life-podcast/id1741285846
Who is your favorite bull? https://x.com/CuckoldressV/status/1803445895322828886

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Speaker 1:

This is the Venus Cuckoldress podcast, a place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious, for the passionate and for the sexually empowered woman who wants it all. Let's go. Welcome to the show everyone. I'm your host, venus. Thanks so much for joining me. I have gianni, who's my guest. He goes by confident cuck. He is a blogger of the confident cuck blog. He's been on the podcast before. Way back in season one he talked about the question answering the question are stags cucks? It was a really cool episode. But he's also been a guest on Pillow Talk before, on Live on Crowdcast, and that's where today's episode came from. He was recently my guest on Pillow Talk.

Speaker 1:

We talk about all sorts of fun, interesting cuck perspective subjects, but one of my favorite aspects of this conversation is whatever you want to call it. There's been so many different names, I don't know. It's like reclamation or repenetration or reconnection or sloppy seconds whatever the fuck you want to call it. I don't know. There needs to be a better word for it, but anyway, it is hot as fuck, okay. So basically, when a cuck husband has sex with his wife right after she's been with her bull, there's something to me. It's a form of aftercare, it's almost like cleanup. It's just this very connecting kind of moment that you share together. That can be super hot because it's very cucky, so I'm just thinking about it. It's hot, anyway. So we're going to talk about that as part of our discussion for today's episode, and I love having Gianni on the show because he's always got great stuff to say and I learn so much from him every time we have a conversation, so it's a really great show. Make sure you stick around for the whole thing.

Speaker 1:

But first, before we jump in, I have a couple of announcements. The first is I was recently a guest on the new Cuck my Life podcast, which is a group of guys who came together to make this new podcast called Cuck my Life, and it's really awesome and you should definitely have a listen, and I joined them on their show. I was talking about safety and support in the cuckolding lifestyle and it's just been released, so make sure you check it out. The link will be in the show notes for today or you can find it on Apple or Spotify. It's called Cuck my Life. Also, I recently put out a post on Twitter a question to everybody what's your favorite black content creator or bull in the lifestyle and it was a question that I had asked in the most recent interracial cuckolding live chat that I did in the Queens Quarters community and I wanted to kind of put it out there a little bit more like to everybody, so I posted it on Twitter. I also asked it on the Monapp in the community the cuckolding is love community on the moment app, because I really wanted to figure out like, okay, who, what's the top list here, who are is everyone's favorites, and it's been really fun to check out what everybody's been saying. So if you want to participate, or even just look the comments and figure out some new content creators or uh, whatever, just check it out. It's on my twitter profile at cuckoldress v or X, whatever. I'm not forever going to fucking call it Twitter, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

No, I think this might be the third or fourth. I've been on with Drew and Harmony, I've been once on with just you, I've been on your podcast, so we've yeah, like you said, and sometimes we call each other with some frustrations about some things in the lifestyle. So, yeah, I would have to go through and count them all up to be 100% sure.

Speaker 1:

See, I totally forgot how many times you've been on here. I always enjoy having you on as a guest. Your perspective is awesome. Your blog is great and I remember when it first came out and I was like intrigued by the title the Confident Cuck. So for those of you, for the people who are listening, who aren't familiar with your blog, what's it all about?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So seeing your original podcast and seeing you go on some shows showed me how much being a cuckold could be valued, and especially by the woman, as opposed to a lot of the porn that just kind of treats the cuck like a piece of dirt, for lack of a better term and seeing that really got me to look inside myself and say, okay, what do I want out of this? I don't just want to be an ashtray for somebody, but I do want to have a meaningful, loving cuckold relationship. And then, once I realized that about myself and developed that over a couple of years, I started being like oh, this is actually the only type of relationship I want. I basically see it as kind of like a sexual orientation, for lack of a better term. It really is like part of my intimate identity and as a cuckold I feel very confident being a cuckold. I I kind of depart with some other cucks that are into a lot of like feminization and sissification stuff and that I feel not that you can't be confident with that, but I feel very masculine when I'm a cuck. I feel very masculine when you know I get to repenetrate. I feel very, very masculine when I get to eat a cream pie and and all that great stuff.

Speaker 2:

So I just started. I was like I have to write about this. Nobody else is talking about this. So I started typing it up. You found my blog. We shared stuff. I was like, hey, we have a lot in common here. So, yeah, that's basically what it's all about, just kind of having that perspective of what really doesn't mean to be a cook.

Speaker 2:

I have one blog that's very popular about does size matter? And talking about kind of what it feels like dealing with some of the inadequacies of size. And I'm not a very small, you know. I have a relatively thick six incher, so not terrible on the size scale, but obviously there's always going to be somebody bigger and kind of going over. Okay, how can I be okay with myself? But also, really like the size queen, you know, energy that a lot of cuckoldresses have and yeah, just kind of all that wrapped up is really what got me writing about cuckolding and I think I have like 32 articles on my blog and yeah, I've been very busy as of late, but I do plan to be writing a bit more on it because there's just so much that goes into cuckolding and the mentality behind it and, especially from my perspective of really loving it, it finding my masculinity uh being promoted through it yes.

Speaker 1:

so I wanted to ask you about that because, like you said that you, when you learned about this kind of different aspect of being a cuck, that's different from what's portrayed, um, instead of like rejecting that label, the cuck, you embraced it because, like I'm at I'm bringing this up because, like I ended up speaking to the guy from tumblr who came up with the word stag and he created that word because he said there was a need for something other than cuck, because the cuck label didn't resonate with somebody who was masculine, who somebody was alpha-ish or who enjoyed cuck things but didn't want to feel weak.

Speaker 1:

So he came up with that word stag and it caught on with a lot of guys who just didn't feel like that word, that label cuck resonated with them. So, but for you, you were like you didn't reject the cuck label. You're like, nah, fuck it, I'm going to embrace it and embrace it in a way that does feel strong and confident and masculine and all of those things. How come you didn't reject it? How come you were like, oh no, no, this is me actually.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I actually have one blog post that goes over that too, where I go over the cuck spectrum and I say from stag to sissy, because I feel like there are different levels that you can be. But to me, the whole cuckold dynamic because I've met so many people in the lifestyle too, especially after you and I started talking and started to go to different parties and meet with other people and a lot of guys that I met that would talk about the stag label not every single one, but a lot of them were very much having the same feelings that I was having, were very much having a lot of the same cuckold dynamics that wanted to see their girl with a bigger man, that loved that size, queen energy, that loved eating cream pies and stuff. And I feel like if you're confident enough, it doesn't really matter what other people are going to call you. You know, being a man quote unquote, I think is looking at the world and not letting it tell you how you're going to act, but you decide how you're going to act. So once I started seeing people use that title, I was like I guess that kind of describes me. But also that's really just because a lot of the women I've been with haven't been that into humiliation, and for me the cuckolding is all about compersion. So if I was with a woman that was in the humiliation or any of that stuff, I would probably get right into it. So for me, the reason why I accept the cuck label so much is because one I think it's just that one way open relationship, but also I think it adds to that compersion element that OK, I'm doing this for the woman, I'm doing this because I want her to to lead in the sexual domain and then from there I can actually have my own sexual needs fulfilled even more.

Speaker 2:

So, rather than trying to reject it and be like, oh, no, i't want to be called a cook, it's like, yeah, call me a cook. So what? Like, yeah, I'll eat, I'll eat the fuck out of that cream pie, like you know and you can. And a lot of guys will make, oh, I'll bang your girl. It's like anybody who's saying that almost always doesn't have for lack of a better term the swag you know what I mean or the that they think that you know, a cuckold just is just automatically going to have sex with everyone. It's like, no, they're still picky, women are still women and they still want to. You know, have standards that you have to live up to.

Speaker 2:

Um, so, really embracing the, the cuckold label and saying, no, I am a cuck Like I, I do want to let her lead in the relationship and that actually know, I need a new word just for me. You know, I think a lot of those guys actually, I think it's more insecure on their part. There are a few guys who they just kind of play with cuck elements in some parts of their relationship but they don't live it full, full time and I think for them, okay, they want to be a stag because they really don't get into any of the humiliation. Um, like, like, uh, mike from keys, uh, keys and anklets. He said that he likes the stag label because he does like to watch his woman sometimes, but it's very different.

Speaker 2:

But that is a vast minority of of stags that I've ever heard of. Um, most other stags are like oh, you're really just a cuck. You're just afraid of being called a cuck, which is I don't know what words can't hurt me. I'm not. I'll just embrace that title and the most important part, alliteration. I mean confident cuck. It just sounds nice, so I had to embrace it.

Speaker 1:

It does sound nice. So what does it like for guys out there who don't understand what cuckolding or cucks are? What does it feel? What does it really feel like to be a cuck?

Speaker 2:

I think that the biggest feeling is, honestly, gratitude, like when you actually are a cuck and you have a woman that says, hey, I understand that you have these kinks and these fetishes and all this stuff going on in your head and I want to be a part of that and support you. And they want to do it by exploring themselves rather than shutting themselves off and closing themselves off as society tells them to. I feel very grateful that, okay, I can share this with someone. And then, in letting the woman lead, I've learned a lot about myself that I I didn't know, for example. For example, like the vagina changes so much over the month. You know when a woman's in different parts of her cycles. You can have, you know, sex at different times and it feels tighter, it feels looser, it feels wetter, all these different types of things.

Speaker 2:

And by opening up with myself, that allowed the women that I've been with to open up about themselves, so that way they don't feel uncomfortable or strange or oh no, I'm not wet enough down there, like, oh no, we can make it work whatever's actually going on with you. So I really like that. It gives me so much gratitude that, okay, I don't have the pressure of having to perform at a certain level. I know that you can have whatever you want sexually, but you're going to be with me emotionally and in the relationship because you value me that much. And in terms of that confidence it really does bring so much confidence after my girl goes and fucks a 10-inch BBC and then she comes back to me and she just wants to be with me all night. Like that. You know nothing against or disparaging the bulls or anything, but it's just like wow, like I got something special here.

Speaker 1:

So it really makes me feel grateful and confident. Stereotype is that you know if your woman isn't getting enough, whatever that might be, then you know you must be a cuck, like you can't be a cuck if you are enough for her. What are your thoughts on all of that?

Speaker 2:

I think that it's kind of hard to answer. It's a really good question, though. I think that when it comes to the inadequ answer, it's a really good question, though I think that when it comes to the inadequacy, it's not that you're necessarily inadequate enough for her, because and this is something I've seen through multiple cucks that I've talked with whether it's just online or meeting them at parties almost all of them bring this lifestyle up to the woman. So it's not that the woman has this deep, unfulfilled need that she's just trying to fill and goes all crazy slutty for everything. That's not what's happening most of the time. Normally, it's the guy that's saying, hey, I want to do this other stuff. So in reality, that's kind of saying that the woman is sexually inadequate, whatever she's doing just by pleasuring him, just by being in a monogamous relationship. So I think that when we're looking at the inadequacies that a lot of cuck feel, I think it's really just that realization hold on, there is a bigger dick out there. There is, you know, somebody who can reach spots that I might not be able to. There is, you know, the BBC for that.

Speaker 2:

You know, talk about the elephant in the room, and I think that the. It's kind of like with with working out I'm into lifting and stuff but there's always a bigger, stronger guy. You know what I mean. There's always an Arnold Schwarzenegger, there's always a Ronnie Coleman, whoever it is so kind of understanding that and knowing that and knowing that even if she's going to have that, she can still come back to you Like you can still appreciate his muscles, his size, little fun quips with my girlfriend at, like the grocery store or stuff like that that nobody could ever really know, those like small little intricacies.

Speaker 2:

However, if we like go to see a comedy show, obviously he's going to make her laugh harder. Obviously there's going to be, you know, funnier jokes and you know, do I feel inadequate with my, with my humor because of that? No, it's just, it's just different. And knowing that, like if we were to measure it out and we were to like scale everything, yes, it would be better, but I think everything is like really context dependent. So being okay and having that comfort and, you know, enough humility to say, yeah, that guy probably is funnier, yeah, that guy is bigger than me, um, but still, being like that's, that's fine. So I don't think you necessarily need to be inadequate to be a cook, rather. I think that you just have to recognize that there is something else out there, and you wanting that for your woman is actually, you know, to me shows an amazing sign of security. Like I want you to have this, because I know that it'll make you happier and it'll make our relationship stronger.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this whole myth of like you're, you have to be everything for that one person forever is like it's so ridiculous. And if you're not, then there's something just like so fucked up, like what I think that we have generally as a society of such a fucking narrow, limited view about what sex is, what sexuality is, what sexual experience looks like, smells like, feels like like all of that that we're really missing out on so much. And I've talked a lot in the past and still, about how cuckolding is a gift that you give to a woman if she wants it, and it's the gift of sexual exploration. Okay, you can go and talk about big dicks and black guys, and it's the gift of sexual exploration. Okay, you can go and talk about big dicks and black guys and it's the gift about all of that, and blah, blah, blah, whatever. But let's face it, this is about giving her the gift of being able to explore her sexuality in whatever way, shape or form she would like to, whatever that might look like, shape or form she would like to, whatever that might look like, and that's amazing.

Speaker 1:

It's a fucking tragedy, honestly, if a woman isn't given that gift in her lifetime, whether she gives it to herself or she's given to it by her monogamous partner. But it is a fucking tragedy if a woman goes through her life without actually having gone down that road and being able to, um really explore her own body, her own sensations, her own desires, her own pleasure. Um, oh, fuck man, that's just terrible. I look at these like crazy ass fucking traditional religious relationships. I'm like, oh, woman, you have no idea what you're missing out on in this life.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I feel so weird about that. I would feel terrible if a woman was only with me because she hadn't experienced anybody else, if she only thought I was funny because she never saw George Carlin or Eddie Murphy. You know what I mean. That seems like the worst. No, I want you to see all that. I want you to experience all that and then come back to me. And I know partially.

Speaker 2:

This is because when I was in my younger years I was a little bit of a man whore, for lack of a better term. I went a little bit wild, I had a little bit of a crazy time and then kind of coming out of that and being like hold, it's because I actually I wanted to give more to the woman but there really wasn't ever that avenue, there wasn't ever that. You know that, uh, that outlet that I that I could find, until I got into cuckolding and and once I saw past all the porn stuff, I'm like wait a minute, I don't want to wear panties, wait a minute, I don't want you to put out you know, want to see you like get fucked by crazy.

Speaker 2:

Or, honestly, some of my best times have been when I'm not even there, when I'm not on video and I'm not doing anything, when she just calls me after and tells me about it, or like I can just hear a little bit on the phone. The one line that I love is that I want her to get lost with him so that way she can find her way back to me. And like that, like even saying it just makes me feel good, like even saying it just makes me feel good.

Speaker 1:

I love that. Oh, that needs to be on a t-shirt or a mug or something. I love that. Okay, that brings me to my next question. So how do you prefer to be cucked, and why? Because I get this asked a lot. All the time. Guys are always wanting to ask me, like, do you prefer to have your cuck in the room, or do you want him to watch? Or like, what's your preference?

Speaker 2:

like I don't know why people are really obsessed with knowing this stuff, but let's ask you what's your preference yeah, I definitely think a lot of people ask because they just kind of want to explore kinks and fetishes and they want to hear somebody say it. Um, but me personally, I like with everything in the couple relationship, I like her to lead, I like her to tell me what she wants in that moment. It might be a time of the month where she feels really sexy and very you know, uh, very open, and she wants to be watched. She wants to have like one or two guys there. It might be a time where she just wants to have like a toy and talk about something dirty. It might be a time where you know she wants to do her own thing and then just tell me about it after. So I really like for her to decide.

Speaker 2:

But my favorite times really are when and it's probably a little bit of the denial aspect that I like but I like being in my cage, being on my phone, you know, hearing something like not even you know, not even being there I can like even put myself on mute and just trying to imagine what's going on in that moment and then being called back after that. I mean that callback, that that reconnection is like that. That's when really just the the stars go wild there, uh, but I mean I do you know, obviously, if I can be there. I like being there, but you know they have a. They have a cuck chair, uh, for a reason.

Speaker 2:

Um, I think the logistics of actually like trying to get involved a lot with cucks, like oh, I'm gonna eat her pussy as he fucks her and her legs and it like all that's like cool and fun for porn, but I feel that the logistics just end up being a little bit too hard. Sometimes it's like let me sit in the chair, let me just, like, you know, sip my, uh, my jack and coke and just watch it unfold. And again you get lost with him. And then, once you're done like then you find your way back to me after like you've already been like completely satisfied with that, and then you need a different type of satisfaction, and then that's where I commit and I'm like okay, you know you might be able to be there for like the first three hours of the night, going crazy, but I'm there like to sleep and cuddle with you and wake up in the morning with breakfast ready on a plate. So I definitely like that aspect, I think, more than more than anything probably.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, let's talk that, because there's this term reclaiming hate, that fucking word. There's a part called reconnecting, re-penetrative, re-penetrative sex. Like we need to rebrand this shit, like, uh, we need a good, we need a good term. So for, for those of you who are in the audience for pillow talk right now, if you have some good suggestions about what we can call this sex with your wife after she's been with a bull because for me I feel like it's a form of aftercare, same with cleanup, and but not everybody, I guess, thinks about it that way but yeah, it's so hot and very connecting. But then again, there's a lot of these guys out there who are like, oh, like hugs shouldn't have sex with their wife. Like that doesn't make any sense, like you're not good enough. Why would you want to give that to her and not realizing that, like for me, I'm like it's so hot on for so many reasons and you talked about the her finding her way back to you part. That's really special for you, so that makes it special.

Speaker 2:

I also love the fact that, like if she feels different inside to you like that's hot as fuck If she says something about, if she comments about that, that's hot as fuck.

Speaker 1:

If she says something about, if she comments about that, that's a hot as fuck, okay. And then, yeah, just the little bit of story time that you can get during that time that you guys are together, and how hot that is for me. Also, I have some I can't remember what somebody called it I have some sort of fetish where guys who can't last very long because they're like overly turned on. So for me the whole like sex after I've been with a bull is super hot if, like, I am really stretched out and that turns him on so bad. And or maybe I say a comment and it like yeah, I love it when cucks just get go overload, turned on overload, and they're just like, oh, and then then they just fucking lose it, they just come like so fast, I don't know, I just love that so much.

Speaker 2:

I hear that. No, I I'm. That is, it's funny. Before we got on here I said you're probably going to make something that makes me squirm and you're doing it Because that is that is like my favorite. And the most recent time that I had repetitive sex, you know I told you I had some personal stuff going on, so I won't go into that. But the last time that we had a bull and he fucked her and like afterwards she it's funny you were on one show and somebody asked you how much cum is actually still in there after you have sex, especially if you cum home. It's probably not a lot. So the cream pie cleanup is more, like you said, more of an aftercare thing rather than and I got some hate online because one time I said I don't really care about eating the cum, I really just care about going down or after she's been fucked, because the pussy's more swollen and when you have sex at that time like for a cuck it is it is like more stretched out but also it's swollen, so it's like tighter but like, it's like trying like to hold on but like there isn't as much in it.

Speaker 2:

And the last time we did it like I just she got on top of me and she's like, and I got down and I was like, oh my gosh, how does that feel? And she was like you're so small compared to him and like, with less than 30 seconds I just like unloaded inside of her and it it was so much like. I went down on her after that and I was like, oh, that was like the most come after her had an agreed by. I was like, wow, this is a lot Cause obviously I wanted to make her come after that. But that feeling when like it it's swollen and like open but like like it's so hard to describe.

Speaker 2:

But that is like the best sex. Like when I can feel like okay, my penis is barely doing anything right now because you just got fucked by a cock, like that is just feeling like, okay, this pussy is a goddess pussy and I am really like serving it in. Have that freedom. That like you really can just like come so quickly because you know that she's been fucked, you've done this and you just want to give everything to her. Like it was literally less. And I afterwards I'm like I'm sorry. And she was like no, I like it, just like you're like alex. And I was like like melting there. So, yeah, that is that. That repenetrative sex is like the like that is like the pinnacle for me as a cuck and like I just had like cum coming down my balls and like her pussy was like oh, and like just the swollen pussy is just the best pussy ever. Like it tastes so good, like there's more juices.

Speaker 1:

It's oh, oh, I love it I remember this like okay, it was a long time ago now, but like it was um. I was in a hotel I had just I had a weekend of black guys that I fucked, so there's a lot and this cuck that I was with um. I don't exactly remember how it happened, but like he wanted to penetrate me afterwards and for some reason I let him, but not like normal sex, like I think. Oh no, it was he. I was so stretched out and he put his hand in me and then I can't remember if I told him to put his little wiener in next to it, but he did, and then he was like jerking himself off inside my pussy.

Speaker 1:

And I was just laughing because I was like, oh my God, that's funny.

Speaker 2:

So it was memorable.

Speaker 1:

It was memorable, but like I mean, maybe that's where this fetish came from, but like it was so hot. I I don't know just the fact that I was like so stretched out like that and that he was able to do that and like it was, it was just such a cuck thing yeah, and I've had.

Speaker 2:

I've had times like that too, where I like shower sex a lot, just because I like being in the heat and the steam. Um, but obviously, logistics wise, it's always a little bit hard, especially because, yeah, you know being a cuck, obviously I like being in the heat and the steam, but obviously, logistics wise, it's always a little bit hard, especially because you know being a cock. Obviously I like girls with big booties. I mean, come on, who doesn't? But a lot of times it's hard, you know, even with six inches it's hard to get like right up in that angle and stuff. So what me and my lady have done is I'll just like have my cock like sliding up and down her ass cheeks and I can like just come from that and like she told me that it makes her feel so powerful that like she doesn't even need like penetration to like have me come. So I'll just like be doing that and she'll be like you know, she'll like say like our bull's name and like oh, you can't, you know, do what he could. Like you can't get all the way there he could, he would be already inside me right now and it's just like, right there it feels so good and I, I love that like moment where, like I, it feels so good when it, when it really does feel like she can't feel anything, cause I'm like, oh shit, like this, for me it's just like this is a goddess pussy, this is a pussy that deserves more than me. I feel amazing, I feel lucky to be here and I want her to have more. So the fact that I know that she has more and then when I'm there, I feel that realization that, oh, she really can take more, that is, oh, I'm kidding, yeah. And one other thing at that point too, I always think like, especially it's funny.

Speaker 2:

You mentioned before how a lot of people don't like explore themselves, and I feel like that's very true for men, especially our sexuality. We just we're just like, okay, stick it in and it should feel good and yada, yada, yada, that crazy. And I obviously wasn't that connected to, you know the girl. We were teenagers, it wasn't that crazy. But then, after getting into chastity and stuff, I was like, oh, this feels like tight on my cock right now, like it feels like really tight on here and that feels really good. This must be what the bulls feel like when the pussy's on them because their cock is so big. So I feel like the tightness you know, the tightness for a cock is just in the cage. That's all you have to do that's so funny.

Speaker 1:

That's where they get the tight sensation. Yeah, you know somebody? You were talking about positions because, like um, there are lots of positions where guys with big dicks couldn't handle like it's no problem, they're not slipping out. But like guys who are smaller, it's like good luck, honey, you're not going to be able to sustain that. You're going to be fucking falling out every two seconds. Oops, where'd it go? Oh, it's out again. One of my very favorite positions is one that only guys with long dicks can do. It's so funny because when I talk about it, the women are like oh, yes, like guys with small dicks, be like, I don't know that one.

Speaker 2:

I don't know that position yeah, and I've actually had small penis envy where like sometimes I'll be, you know, because, like I said, like for for most girls like that, you know, aren't size queens like six inches is normally enough and I'm relatively thick. So I've been at times like where it has been like the time of the month where she's like really tight and I'm going in and like we're fucking and like it's good, it's nice. But part of me, like envy, is like damn, like I wish sometimes. I wish it was a little bit smaller so there could be like a bigger difference between her and her bowl and stuff.

Speaker 2:

Because I've like been at humiliation doesn't always hit that hard with me, cause it's like you really got to like have it massive, like to really see the difference there. Um, but yeah, I, I like it's. It's so funny how some guys are like I want a bigger dick, I want a bigger cucks out there who are, you know, say to their partner they tell her like I don't have any boundaries, like you're free to do whatever you want to me, kind of thing, and I was like oh, that's very good.

Speaker 1:

Like I don't know, I just feel like you're playing with fire there, like and, and not only that, but if she's new to cuckolding, that's not very good with like guiding her along, like if you know what, if she does fuck up, then she's gonna be scared to try anything. But anyway, what are your thoughts on that? Like I like for the guys who say, like you know, I don't have any boundaries, do you think that's true or is this something that they just like really think is really hot?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's that they think it's really hot. It's that they think that they are going to be sexier and kinkier than anything she can imagine. So they're just okay with anything. And when you permit anything, it's the same thing as permitting nothing. You're not giving any guidance. You really aren't. So what me and my partner do in our relationship is we say that we have veto power, so like if there's anything that either of us doesn't want to do, we can say veto. We don't want to do that.

Speaker 2:

So one of the things that's come up is people that I work with or that she works with. We don't want to mix work and play for a bunch of variety of reasons. So, nobody that you work with, no family members. That really is the only thing that we've come to. But there are other boundaries that you can add. For example, I don't really like anal play. I've tried to get into it. I just, you know, even one finger is too much for me. It's funny because I see the pegging stuff and I'm like that looks so hot, but I just I guess I'm not man enough to take that. Yeah, I got to, got to, got to man up for it, but but yeah, I think that you have to have some level of boundaries and just be honest about what makes you feel uncomfortable. I think that a lot of people they by by acting like they don't have a boundary. They, they, they. It just shows kind of an immaturity on their part that they've never done anything that they, you know, haven't been like. Oh wait, a minute, I don't like this.

Speaker 2:

And one of the things that I've done is in my younger years I had a bunch of three ways with girls where it would be me and two girls and we'd hook up. And there were a couple of times where I had trouble keeping it up. During that I was like wait, what's going on Again. This was before. Like I kind of had my cuckold awakening, but at that time I was just like why isn't like this working? I should like be into this and stuff. And it was because I like focusing on one woman, I like giving her that attention and I like seeing her with multiple men giving her attention and just focusing on her. That is what really makes me feel great.

Speaker 2:

So she asked me in the beginning well, do you want to do any three ways? And pretty much every girl that I've had any cuckolding with. They ask that to you Are you trying to hook up with the girls? And I'm like no, no, that is definitely one of the hard boundaries. I don't want to do. That that takes away from this. I want to be focused on you.

Speaker 2:

The girl like with herself, that's okay, but like to have like me, like banging both of them, it just it doesn't like feel right for my sexuality, my sexual orientation. So I think that you really just have to dig deep and be like okay, what do you not like? And also, obviously, the big four, you know no scat, no blood, no kids, no animals. You know what I mean. Obviously, those should kind of go without saying.

Speaker 2:

Um, but some people are, you know, even into play and stuff like that. I don't do any age play. I've only ever dated older women. To be honest, if anything, I definitely like the MILF a lot more. To be honest, I think the teen category is a little bit yikesy, but hey, people do what they like as long as everyone's 18, they're older, whatever.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, I think you do have to have some limits and say what you want. And, as a cuckold, it should be a limit that you don't want to like have sex with other women. That should be something you you don't want to do. If you do want to do that, then hold on you. You just want to be a swinger or you just want to have humiliation fetish, like figure out what you want to do. But if you, a lot of times people of that, they're just like anything, anything please. My dull, boring monogamous life. Please spice it up. And it's like just figure out what you want. Take a minute, take a breath, find support, like figure out what stuff you like and don't like, and and you should be able to figure that out yeah, um, okay, so this question got lots of votes in the question poll, um, so I'm gonna go ahead and tackle this one.

Speaker 1:

If a guy is unsure of whether or not he should try cuckolding, what advice would you give him If he's not?

Speaker 2:

sure, that's what I would say. Again, it kind of goes back to what you're saying. So many people are, like, afraid of failure or like, afraid of like and not being perfect, and the weight of perfection like weighs on them so much that it causes them not to ever act or want everything to be perfect. Or you know, oh, that guy didn't have a tennis stick. You can't bang it like, shut up, like like, even if you have a girl that has, like you know, a preference for black guys or whatever, she's probably gonna find some guy attractive. Um, one, one of the things uh, I meant to say this before but we were just talking about so much I forgot about it. Um, but one of the things that I like to do is to go out to like a club or someplace where dancing is going on and then just let my girl find anybody that she'll be interested in. And most of the time she doesn't find anybody because you know they have to do a lot to win her over, especially when she knows she's got me at home and you know all the different toys that we can have fun with. So it's like all right, random guy, you're fine. But by having that freedom to go out and to do whatever you want without saying, okay, no, we have to do this, we have to find this, just explore it. If you don't like it, that's okay. If you let that ruin your relationship, that you tried something that you didn't like, then you had some other issues going on and something else was going to ruin the relationship.

Speaker 2:

I think that people get way too attached to their relationships as part of their identity rather than a, you know, a supplemental part of their life. It's like we were talking about earlier, where people expect one person to be everything for you and no, they're not your therapist, you know they're not your doctor. No, they're your partner. So they're going to do some things. You're going to do some things, so be free to make mistakes with each other and then come back and say you know what, actually I didn't like X so much, I didn't like Y so much, z was kind of fun, but maybe if we did it differently this way and just being able to have that open conversation so if you're afraid of doing it, just try it.

Speaker 2:

Worst case scenario you learn that you don't like it and then if you have a good relationship, you'd be like, okay, that's fine, and if she has her cuckoldress awakening and she's like actually, this is something I really want, did you really want, did you really want her to be with you? If it was just because she never knew the side of her that she loved, like you guys would have broken up anyway, like yeah, so stop being a pussy man up, go fucking eat a cream pie. Yeah, you see this.

Speaker 1:

You see this often, like our at least. I see this often where guys are like on the fence about oh I don't know, I don't, should I, should I not? And the kind of like one day all in, next day like, and my advice is actually quite the opposite. I'm like, if you're not sure, then don't fucking do it, because I feel like you have to do some work on yourself first. If you know, and maybe that if it's just because you're just not courageous enough to try something that you're nervous about, then maybe it is about like just you know, realizing that this is that you think about, okay, the potential consequences. Well, the consequences could be good, like you know.

Speaker 1:

It could be good yeah so you just have to go for it and find out. There's that part of it. But I think a lot of the times, the struggles that guys have is that this will change them in a negative way in some, in some form. So, um, and then it'll, it'll that they'll. They'll think about themselves differently, their partner will think about themselves different, she won't respect me the same, and or it's going to be, you know, detrimental to the relationship or whatever you know.

Speaker 1:

I do feel like there is some work that guys need to do on themselves with figuring out their own internal fucking world before they should jump into cuckolding, and whether that be going to see a cake, friendly therapist or just having the skill communication skills to be able to effectively communicate with your partner, to talk about these things, before you actually go down that road. But there are things that need to be done before you should just fucking jump into it because you want to make sure that this is going to be something that you either. Either you're going to be like, yep, that's exactly what I want to do, it's always what I want to, like it was great, like it fits who I am, or you try it out. You're like, yeah, it's not everything I thought it would be. Maybe I'll try something else kind of thing, but I think there's caution.

Speaker 2:

I think, on that note too, there's kind of like two elements to it. There's the one element of you have to really know what you want in the first place, and I think some people think it's kind of all or nothing that if you're doing cuckolding, like OK, if I'm going to do it, I have to have a five-guy gangbang and go out. No, you can just play with the toy at first. You can just tell your partner that you think it'd be sexy for her to do X. You don't have to. When I say, stop being a pussy and go into it, I mean like take the first step. And I think a lot of guys are afraid of just that first step. But I think the second part of that is there's the fear of losing the taboo.

Speaker 2:

I've seen this with a lot of different guys that have contacted me, where the thought of making it real and accepting this side of themselves they don't verbalize it all the times, but I can see it like just so clearly that they are afraid that if they actually accept it and if they like it, then they'll no longer get that rush from having it be a taboo, having it be a bad thing that they're breaking. So because of that, they're like oh no, I'm not going to like it. And I'm here on the other side telling you guys, no, it gets better, it doesn't feel bad when you don't feel shame about it. I promise it feels really good, like, and you can still like, have all like your cultural, social like, social shame or whatever, if you want, but personally and in your you know interpersonal relationship with your partner, you can just accept. Okay, hey, this is something we both find hot.

Speaker 2:

Maybe maybe I like cuckolding and I like the fetish, but I only want to use toys. Maybe I like cuckolding and I like the fetish, but you know, you can only have one guy at a time, because I get too jealous and nervous with a whole bunch of people around. Maybe she doesn't like being with a whole bunch of different guys and she only wants to have strict rules around it. And I feel like you do have to just take that first step. But, yeah, don't go all the fucking way and don't be afraid that you're going to lose something by it not being taboo anymore, by you just accepting this part of yourself.

Speaker 1:

That's an interesting insight. Now, I hadn't thought about that, but yeah, I definitely see how the fear of losing the taboo would be a thing. Excellent point that you brought up about not having like don't jump in headfirst. You don't have to go dive right into the deep end when it comes to cuckolding for your first time.

Speaker 1:

I know this is like this is shocking for a lot of guys because this is something they've been focusing on for so long is like the, the fantasy of her, you know, doing cuckold level 10 and um, yeah, the rest of us are out here going actually, there's a fucking shit ton of fun that you can do that doesn't even involve another guy. Like, and it still has fun. You can have fun playing around with this cuckolding fantasy stuff. So, like a lot of fun. Like you can fucking get off a gazillion times and you will just by, yeah, playing around with the flirting part or the fantasy talk or the toys or like, like, it's, it's just it's, it's not that there's a ton of creative things that you can do, um, around that. Okay, I wanted to ask you or no, somebody else had a question here what? What was your? Did you have a turning point where you knew you were a cuck.

Speaker 2:

And I think it was honestly. I think you were on the Priority Society podcast and when I was listening to that episode, I remember I think it was that episode and they asked you what if you just like found like the perfect bull and you wanted to have a relationship with him and you said, no, I'd still want a cuck, like, I still want this. And when I heard that, that kind of made me be like, oh, wait a minute, this is so different. Like the female mind is so different than like what my you know, young 20 something mind was thinking at the time and and I was like, okay, there can be a real loving, cuckold relationship here. And that's when I really started to explore it. That's when I really started to be like, okay, what, what's actually happening psychologically here and intimately. And at that point I realized I can have all the intimacy and love of a relationship with my wildest kinks if I'm just honest and open about it.

Speaker 2:

And you know it was a little bit rocky at first when I tried to bring it up to you know the, because I was single at the time and started dating some girls and and it you know I made the mistake of trying to go a little bit at first, too much, like I just want to see. You know I made the mistake of trying to go a little bit head first too much, like I just want to see you know, fuck like two or three guys, what's the big deal? So I had to like mature a little bit through that. But but that was really the turning point when I was like, oh wait, a minute, I can be valued, even like again, not to disparage bulls at all but I can be valued like more than the bull in this relationship. That is something that I hadn't really thought of and really developed my understanding of. So after I started looking at that I was like, okay, there really is a lot here going on psychologically. And just on the other point that you said we were talking about, before.

Speaker 1:

If you want to eat a cream pie, try to eat your own first.

Speaker 2:

If you can't eat your own, you probably shouldn't. Good advice yeah, like, do it at home first. Like, yeah, just do that, you're fine. So, yeah, like, that was definitely a turning point. And also chastity was a really big turning point for me Because at first again, I'm not into the feminization, I'm not into the cissification.

Speaker 2:

I'm like I don't want to have a clit, like I still have a dick, like call it a penis, don't like that. It kind of like disparages women, that like you have to be embarrassed to be a woman or feminine. It just rubs me the wrong way and, hey, everybody's got their kinks, do what you want to do. But for me, kind of being like, oh wait, a minute, this is a sensation on my penis that I had never felt before and I was locking myself off to this because I was just using my hand or you know what I mean A vagina that I didn't fill up as much as you know, as much as could be.

Speaker 2:

So after having that I was like, oh wait, a minute, there's so much more to learn about my own sexuality, my own body, and that was something I learned like later on in my journey too. So I think that those are kind of the two big things like, oh wait, a minute, chesty, now I see it as like armor that I'm putting on for my day, like to go fight for my queen, like this is my, this is my armor, I'm, I'm her knight, right there, ready to take care of my queen, and then also being like I really like she does value me, she still wants me in her court as her queen. You know to go on with the analogy, like she always wants me there. She doesn't want to like, just push me off for for one of the black Kings.

Speaker 1:

She really you wrote about in your blog was talking about the knight in armor, kind of thing, and I was like, yes, I can totally understand that, kyle is why is it so hard to find a bull? How do you do it? What makes for a good bull for you and how do you find a good bull?

Speaker 2:

What makes a good bull is definitely humor more than anything. Anybody can have a big dick. Anybody can be attractive. That's not that hard to find. To be honest, it's really having that humor because when you're in the bedroom things aren't always going to go as planned.

Speaker 2:

There's a famous quote I think it's by Klaus, one of the famous military generals. That's the battle plan does not survive first contact. As soon as you get in there, things are going to go awry. So things are going to be weird, things are going to be off. You have to be able to laugh it off and jump right back into it and not take yourself too seriously.

Speaker 2:

So like humor is a really big thing. That like we can joke around, that like he can make jokes about like size and stuff like that without it being like derogatory and like putting you down, and that like we're all respecting everybody's consent. That like we like there there aren't really a lot of boundaries that I've had with my cuckoldress, but there are a lot of boundaries that we have with like the bull about what we're going to do, and it's more for safety stuff. It's not really any sexual stuff that we can't necessarily do. It's just okay. Like if I say this stop, like I'm not saying it's. You know, I'm not saying stop in a sexy way. I'm saying stop because I don't like this. You know, don't slap here, don't do this. Those aren't really those. Have come up with some women I've dated, but that's not normally the biggest ones. Normally it's it's just things around safety and making sure that everybody's having a good time. So that communication is the biggest thing.

Speaker 2:

And to find bulls it, it is really hard, which is, to be honest, some of the best experience we have haven't even really been with bulls. Like I've said, she just she'll call me and they won't even know. Like if it's somebody that she hooks up while we're out, like she'll kind of tell them that, like she's cheating on me for lack of a better term, like you know, in more words than that um, and she'll just like call me and like leave the phone on and they won't really know and I'm just like listening to this and then, like she calls me after and we like reconnect. At that point that's really hot because they kind of don't know about it and it's, you know, it's our own thing that we're having there. So that has been honestly the best experiences that we have. But there have been a few sex parties that we've gone to, where, like, when we're there, different people wear like different bracelets or whatever, and then you meet somebody and that's been good. We haven't had any good luck online. She's also a little bit more reserved and really picky and whenever not to, you know, talk too much about my partner or anything.

Speaker 2:

But this is something for women in general. A lot of them are women, have different standards than men. Like a lot of men, we would just bang anybody we could, because you know selection theory and desperation and whatever other factors go into it. But women tend to have higher standards and to want specific men for specific things. And you know you could have two men that look exactly the same and a guy would be like why, what's the difference? But willing to be like, do you not like see the difference? Do you not like see how they hold themselves and all that. So really letting her decide and not trying to force her to do anything, I think is the best way to go about it.

Speaker 2:

And then trying to find, you know, somebody that again has that communication, has that humor and, and I think if you just go out and you just meet people. You, you can find them. You know they're probably not going to be a lifelong bull that's going to like be in there for you know. You know saying here, come and clean up and all that stuff. You probably won't do that, uh, but do you really need all that every single time? I think I think you can have fun, uh, without it there. So there are different ways to find it.

Speaker 2:

I know that there's a lot of great uh bulls out there, like um, like doc chocolate. He's like one of the best from all the women that I hear that have been with him, that he's so much fun to hang out with. He's hilarious, um, and he he exemplifies exactly what I'm talking about. He talks a lot, he sets boundaries, um, and he's he's hilarious. He laughs the whole time, like because you gotta laugh. I mean, it's some, you're bumping uglies here. It's got, it's gonna be, you know, some funny stuff's gonna happen, happen.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's great. He's just got that kind of personality that makes you feel like you're at ease, like you, like he's just so down to earth. You know. You don't feel like he's pretending to be somebody or that you need to pretend to be somebody, or that you're, you know, within a role or something like that. You just really feel like you're with this person. That makes you feel safe and comfortable and and you can trust them.

Speaker 1:

And and that's a thing like to be able to really because, like I'm a big person about how this person makes me feel, is tells me everything I need to know about them. So, in their presence, do how do I feel? And then for a human being able to be able to actually like make a woman feel calm and safe and, you know, at ease in a sexual, in any scenario, but especially in a sexual scenario, I think that's a big thing, because I've had the opposite happen where I've been in a room with somebody where I felt really not at ease. I felt I had all sorts of weird alarm bells going off where I was just like not sure why, but I was like this person is just not. Something is not right. Yeah, I'm uncomfortable as fuck right now. I need to get the fuck out of here. But that's what I mean, like your presence and how I feel is going to tell me everything I need to know. But yeah, finding a bull is fucking hard for so many couples and I've been saying it a lot more recently that if you expect to be able to just randomly find some stranger off the internet who's going to be a bull for you and your woman, and that all you got to do to put into it is a little chit, chat back and forth and maybe meet up for a drink, and then you're going to find this guy who's going to respect your boundaries and your rules, learn about the both of you and what you want, fulfill your fucking dreams and fantasies and make it epic. And that's all you got to put into it is some texting back and forth and maybe a couple of drinks or something like that.

Speaker 1:

Good luck, I really do feel like, for the guys who really understand that role of a bull. They understand the dynamic of cuckolding, they understand how to really look, listen and learn from you and to fulfill fantasies. I think if we want that, we need to pay for it. We pay for a nice fucking hotel, you pay for a nice fucking lingerie, you pay for a bunch of other shit in your life to make fucking amazing. Think about how much money you put into making your fucking wedding come true. You know the optics, the fantasy, the fucking, everything of it. And yet for especially first time cuckolding sessions, fantasies not willing to put out anything other than a drink or two, I'm like, come on, man. I mean I feel like pussy as a reward only goes so far. If you're just offering up an hour of your wife's pussy as this fucking carrot on the stick of make our fantasy fulfilled, then you're just going to get random dudes who don't know what they're doing. But you really want somebody like a dark chocolate who understands what the fuck you'd want.

Speaker 2:

Like, pay them, pay them yeah, if you, yeah, if you live in alaska and you know he's in california, like fly him out, what are you doing? Um? And we actually did have one experience where we did, um, have a guy that we flew I won't name any names because uh, uh, I will go to that um but we, we had this guy that came out and like he was great with everything, we had a great amount of time, he was 100 into it, um, and it was because we took that time and and had that care beforehand, we made sure, oh, you're so nice when you play with your pussy. I'm sorry I I had to. I know it's a joke, but but yeah, like you have to make the experience good for everybody. And you know, if you treat them like just a dick, then you're just going to get a dick Like that's it and like not in a good way, not in like an actual dick, like an actual asshole. So, yeah, like that's what's going to happen if you, if you treat it that way, like you're, you're dealing with, you know, a person. You're not dealing with a role, you're not dealing with an animal, even though we use the term bull again, the terminology that we have in lifestyle sucks. I don't know who came up with it, um, but but there's so much that goes into that and when you do find a good bull, it really makes things just so much better than you can imagine.

Speaker 2:

And that's kind of what I was saying before about, like, when I say jump into it, I'm not saying go and like, just find some random guy. I'm saying like, get a toy, tell your girl that you want her to experience something bigger and play with that. Like that is safe. You can see what her size is. You'll see that different times during the month. You probably don't fuck her enough to know this, but different times during the month she's going to be different. There's going to be okay with having another guy who could be dangerous come in there.

Speaker 2:

And I actually had one experience where I had to come in and I had to break it up, like, as you can see, I'm not like a small guy. Like you know what I mean. Like I, I can hold my own and stuff, um. But obviously the whole cuff dynamic oh, you're weak, whatever. But no, like she felt unsafe. She said the safe word and he didn't stop. I came right in. I was like get the fuck out of here. Like I was ready to like to go off and like, obviously, like by that time the guy left and said, oh, I don't know, I thought you liked it. I was like, no, get the fuck out of here. Um, and it was like a safety concern, but nothing truly unsafe happened because we had taken the precautions.

Speaker 2:

We made sure, we made sure everyone was there, we made sure, like we talked about this beforehand, um, and we didn't trust her gut on that time. She, her gut feeling was I don't know about this, and I was like, well, it's up to you, and I think that she was just doing it to make me happy at that point, which is like the opposite of it no, do this for you, girl. But her not. And we've been better at communicating since then. But she didn't trust her gut and I always tell women in the lifestyle, whenever they ask me about that, like, trust your gut. Like, if you feel bad about something, don't go for it. And that's honestly why a lot of people are like, oh, isn't your girl fucking somebody every night?

Speaker 1:

No, Do you think we can find safe, fun people to fuck every night? Like you're living in a fantasy world, exactly? Oh, people ask me that all the time. What are you doing this weekend? I'm like fucking laundry, yeah, fucking, never ending laundry.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, laundry is the worst yeah. Yeah, I was going to say something non-sexual, but then we won't even get into those things.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, I think that there's a lot. There is value actual monetary value when it comes to having somebody participate in your cuckolding fantasy as a bull, and I think that we should value those people who are safe, who are reliable, who are knowledgeable and experienced and good at what they do. We should show them that they have value. And I think referrals go a long way, I think, for the women in the lifestyle. We fucking know who gives us the good vibes and who doesn't. So I think that for the guys who do have the referrals fucking long ass list of them that we need to show them that they have value, that they are worth it, and have them as facilitators.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you're, you know they're they're already not getting the like the full relationship side of it, like they're not getting like that into me and stuff. So like giving them something more than just like a vagina and stuff by actually giving them, hey, I'm showing you're invaluable by flying you out here, by having a nice place, by you know you being able to be compensated for what you're doing, like that kind of you know fills that in, because they are doing a different role. Like it is a different thing that you're doing there. Um, and if I do know a few people who have that like that bowl that is just like their number one bowl and it's like it's almost like a boyfriend that you have on top of your um husband and I don't know if that's like something different or like a subsection of cuckolding. Um, I haven't ever had that experience where we've had anybody long lasting um that much, but that does seem like something awesome too. If you have somebody that like you just know like, hey, every time I'm in town, I fly out here every two to three months, like we can always hook up there, that seems like you know the best situation.

Speaker 2:

Um, yeah, somebody, uh put this in here. Like most bulls are friends first and that really is true. Like the bulls that we've, that we haven't had a lot of bulls that we've seen multiple times, but all of them are great friends with both of us. Like they'll literally like text me random, like sports memes or, you know, text her funny, like jokes, or like send stuff to her on instagram and it's not always sexual, you know what I mean. It's you're having fun and stuff and and yeah, that's why, like the first thing you said it was like I don't care about dick, I don't care about, like, how you look, like you can find those things. Like I care about. Like can you make this girl laugh? Because if you can't make her laugh, good luck trying to make her come yeah, absolutely 100% agree.

Speaker 1:

Um, okay, we have run out of time. Where can people find you? Where can they learn about you? Read your blog, that good stuff. I did put a link in the chat earlier, but what are the rest of? Where is everybody supposed to go?

Speaker 2:

ConfidentCookwordpress. Find me on Twitter. You can always send me an email there or a direct message or, I guess, a DM, and also support Venus. Go into her Patreon. Is it a Patreon now or is it a different setup you have to do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's my own website. Fuck Patreon. They're a bunch of losers. That's right. It's Green's.

Speaker 2:

Quarters right.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Set up on that because, honestly, if you think, what I'm saying resonates with you, like I had this awakening because of Venus, like I had this awakening because I heard what she was saying and I really took it to heart and I didn't just want want to have this fantasy that I lived in and have all the shame that I was feeling. I wanted to actually understand what I was going through and be able to accept the person I am. And in doing that, it was listening to you, listening to Scarlett talk about it, queen Anne talk about it as well. I mean, there's so many great women that you've had in your podcast. You can look at mine. Thank you, grunky, always giving the links there. That's right. It's not even Twitter anymore, it's X, so you can find me there.

Speaker 2:

But, honestly, if you want to learn more about this lifestyle, go deep on. All of Venus has a YouTube channel. You can watch it if you want to. The interviews that you've done and the conversations that you've had in these pillow talks, I think that they are so valuable to the lifestyle and they are so valuable to so many people like myself that I think even you know, even after you know, a hundred years after both of us are dead and gone, I think there's people going to be looking at this like, wow, she was really the founder of like modern day cuckolding as it gets more and more popular.

Speaker 1:

So I hope. Thank you for that. I appreciate that. I hope we can have a legacy. That's like that, you know. I think that would be really cool. But thank you so much for lending your voice today and for writing your blog. Yeah, you do have a lot of posts on there, so if you guys who are listening haven't checked it out yet, make sure you do. Confident cockwordpresscom um a lot of really good articles.

Speaker 2:

You're gonna have statues in 100 years of you I already do.

Speaker 1:

Venus, the goddess, I mean I'm pretty sure I'm everywhere right, and just on that note too.

Speaker 2:

I I just want to say like I I do. I'm not a religious person, but I do feel that like intimacy is like something divine for lack of a better term and like you, like having that personification of like venus. I have literally like had orgasms where I've literally just been like like this is like to venus, like not even necessarily just you, but just like the, the exuberantness that I've just like, oh, like and and that is it's. It's taken like my mind that I think, like, if there like is a goddess, like she's your form.

Speaker 1:

That's so awesome. Oh my God, I love that. Oh my gosh. Thank you so much for letting your voice today again on Pillow Talk and for the podcast. I really appreciate it. It's always a great time chatting with you guys Everybody listening. Make sure you go check out his blog and check out his Twitter. Thanks for joining me today. Make sure you go to venuscuckledresscom. That's where you can book a private chat with me. You can check out any cuckolding events that might be happening, and you can even ask a question for the show as well as, of course, join the Queens Quarters Fan Club and get all the benefits for that. You can also follow me on Instagram, the Venus Cuckoldris Podcast. I haven't been banned there. Well, I have, but not recently. You can also follow me on Twitter, or whatever the fuck you want to call it. My handle is at CuckoldressV. That's it for today. We'll see you next time. Bye.