The Venus Cuckoldress Podcast
The Venus Cuckoldress Podcast
Cuckold/Hotwife Sexcapades at a Swingers Club
Gianni AKA Confident Cuck is back and this time he shares an incredible story of how he and his hotwife girlfriend went to a swingers club for the first time.
It's common to assume that cuckolding couples wouldn't necessarily be able to have the kind of experiences they seek at a swingers club but that's just not the case. Listen in to discover just how sexy and thrilling a night out at a sex club together can be - with some cuck spice added in!
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Speaker 1:This is the Venus Cuckoldris podcast, a place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious, for the passionate and for the sexually empowered woman who wants it all. Let's go. Welcome to the show everyone. I'm your host, venus. Thanks so much for joining me. And today on the show I have confident cuck returning and he is going to be talking about how him and his girlfriend went to a swinger's sex club and, although they are a couple who enjoy cuckolding activities in their sex life, they were able to make a swinger's sex club night out totally fucking thrilling and fun. So you're going to love this story. You're going to learn a lot about how, as a cuckolding couple, you can still have lots of fun in a swinger's sex club and, oh my god, some of my favorite parts in this. I can't wait for you to listen. It's so good. Anyway, it's such a great story.
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Speaker 2:Thanks for having me, Venus. I appreciate being here.
Speaker 1:So today we're going to have a fun little conversation about this recent experience that you had. You and your partner went to a swingers club and I'm dying to know how that was like, because that's something I've actually never talked about on the show before about couples who are interested in cuckolding or are in a cuckolding relationship or just have like spicy little cuckolding moments in their sex life. If they go to a sex club, what's it going to be actually like for them? So I'm really excited for you to share this story, but before we get into it, do you want to just have like a quick little blurb for the people who don't know who you are? Just a quick little blurb about who you are and about your relationship dynamic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I am Confident Cook. As Veena said, I have a blog where I talk about the positive benefits of cookholding as well as the masculinity that I feel with it. And, as a disclaimer too, I was going to say that normally I don't go into too much detail on what's going on in my personal relationship at the moment, just because I feel like that's giving a lot of details of the other person's story too. But I have talked with my partner and she's okay with me sharing what we had here, because it was such a positive experience as well. So, yeah, so currently, my current partner is pretty new in a cuckolding. I've had a few cuckolding relationships in the past. This is definitely her first one, much more traditional, but she's been open-minded. Like you said, we've had some spicy moments and sprinkled it in. I haven't done some of the crazier things that I might have talked about in previous times, so we went to a swingers club recently, and that's what we're here to talk about.
Speaker 1:Okay. So how did this all happen? Like, how did you guys decide you're going to go to a swingers club together?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know we have an everyday life like everybody else. You know we have the bills to pay, we got to go to work, we got to, you know, take care of everything in the household, so we don't always get the most time to go out and do crazy things. But my partner, she actually has a really good friend. They've been friends since they were very young and she said I have to tell you something. She's recently divorced. Her current boyfriend is also recently divorced and they went to the swingers club and they had a great time there. And she was nervous about telling my girlfriend and she ended up just laughing about it and being like oh, you have no idea, johnny's a cuck. And she's like well, what's a cuck? So they got to talking about it and she was like okay, you guys have to come to the next one.
Speaker 1:Okay, wait a second. So she's been friends with this girl for a really long time and obviously like they'd never had like the real kinky conversations before. But your girlfriend was like totally okay with just dropping that to her Like oh yeah, johnny's a cuck, and did she ask you about this beforehand? Is it okay if I tell my friend? Or she just was like nah, you won't care, or how did that even happen?
Speaker 2:She knew I wouldn't care. Yeah, I mean, my family knows, like literally my mom and like everybody in my family knows it's not something. I'm shut up. It's like I tell everyone at thanksgiving different. Then they're like, hey, you guys are gonna have the marshmallow, I'm gonna have the cream pie. Like no, we don't, um, but they, you know, know about it, we've talked about it before, um, and just like, talking about you know how you talk about like intimacy, like with you know, your family, and so sometimes it comes up and oh hey, this works for us, you know, yada, yada, yada. So, yeah, everyone in my family already. And so sometimes it comes up and oh hey, this works for us, you know, yada, yada, yada. So, yeah, everyone in my family already knows. So she definitely had no idea or no problem telling her friend about it. So, and when she told me, I was like oh yeah, that's great, let's go, I'm down. She's like I figured you would be.
Speaker 1:So you had never been to it like a sex club before you said you've been to like house parties that were like that, but not an actual club, right?
Speaker 2:Correct. Yeah, I had been to house parties in the past that you know there was like a, basically an orgy room and then other bedrooms that were locked off for certain people and you know drinking like in the kitchen and stuff like that, but I had never been to an actual club or professional one like that. So it was definitely a new experience for um, for me and my partner and then, um, her friend had just been there the one time with with her now boyfriend that that are together with them. So it was a theme night. It was a G? Uh Egyptian theme. We didn't go super into the themes but I kind of wish we we did more Um, but uh, but yeah it was. It was great. There were people wearing everything from pull out pharaoh costumes and Nefertiti to, you know, just wearing a polo and some slack. So it was a good time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've been to sex clubs before and I I think in the beginning I was like yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm going to totally get into like the theme and stuff like that. But then I realized, man, it's a lot of work every time to have to do that. So I was like, ah, fuck it, whatever, but it is fun to get dressed up and it is fun to like just, it's a, it's a great way to feel like you're doing something really out of the ordinary, kind of fun, kind of like Halloween, but like throughout the year dressing up. But exactly, yeah, that's fun that you guys got to do this together as a first, because you said like you're way more, you know, experienced with kinky shit than your girlfriend and yeah, right, yeah that's nice that you, you, you guys both got to do that as like a first.
Speaker 1:So, um, so you guys, you said you sort of got like dressed up so you went, went all together like there was you, you as a couple and then her friend as a couple as well, right, yeah, so the way that this place worked is, on one side of it was the actual bar where there's dancing.
Speaker 2:You know, there's a place to sit down, there's a place to go out and and smoke or vape. I was a designated driver I'm not really a big drinker anyway and I was like I'm gonna love this no matter what. I don't, I don't need my mood, but I want to be tuned in to all this, so, um, so I wasn't drinking, but they were all drinking, having fun, um, having a good time. So first we're out there, uh, dancing and having a good time there, and then the other side of it, um, that's the actual like sex part of it, and to get in there it's because it's the swingers only you have to be in couples, so you can't go in as um a single person.
Speaker 2:I'm sure they probably would have let single women in there, because you know that's the way that works, but, um, but yeah, there were no, uh, single guys. Well, I really didn't see any single people. It was all um couples on the other side of it. But we just started the night just dancing and having a good time with, you know, people wearing very revealing clothing. My partner really likes to dance, so we were getting really raunchy on the dance floor but also kind of giggling that we're in our older ages now and our knees aren't as good as some of the other, some of the other younger 20 somethings that were breaking it down a little bit.
Speaker 1:Now, did you guys get it like a tour of the club? Because I've only been to the sex club here locally and it's run by this woman and she's incredible and she, the way she has it set up, is that when you go in as a first time couple, that you have to. Well, she had you watch a video and then you had to get shown around the club and they explained all the rules to you and everything like that, and it was like there was a lot of emphasis on consent and etiquette. So was it like that there? I'm just curious to know if it was the same.
Speaker 2:So there wasn't really there. Normally is they take you on a whole tour for it, but this night was a sold out night and we just got in because her friend actually signed up for the membership and then they had a plus one to bring it in, so it was all regulars that were there. I don't know if they do any video or anything outside of it, but they um instead, let the um, let the people that we were with give us a tour. So, basically, they led the tour, and then, when we went into um, like in the club side of it, it's just a club anyway, so there wasn't anything going on there. But you do, like sign a consent thing and they talk about that and they ask you a few questions like are you okay? You know that you make the nudity and all this kind of stuff. Um, you know, if you, you know, feel bad, do this, uh, they also have the wristbands. Uh, like let's say what you're okay with.
Speaker 2:Nobody wore them, though, but um, but uh, and the other side of it was really just a bar, the um, the sex side of it. That's where it was um a lot more. You know, there was, there was staff all around, there were a few, uh, security guards here and there. Um, there was really nice staff. There was a, uh, a vending machine yep, it was like a fancy vending machine, um, and I noticed that they sell tums there, which sometimes I get indigestion, so I appreciated that.
Speaker 1:My partner saw that she's like, oh they have tums, I want to ask you this other question, because in the sex club that I've been to all throughout the club, the play areas of the club there's baskets of condoms, lube, wipes, like I mean, dental dams, like fucking everything just sitting there for you to take and use. Was it like that there too?
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's. So basically, when we walked in, we went through the tour. There's the individual rooms and they all have a theme and if you want the room, you just ask for them. You get it for an hour at a time and you can open or close the blinds in there and then there at the back of that there's like a shower area and then there is a watching room where it has the glass open to the big couples area that I'll talk about in a second and that has a little area where you can hook up, but it's mainly for people like to watch and look out, because the mirror is, or it's a, it's a uh, whatever, whatever. Where you, it's a mirror on one side and a window on the other.
Speaker 1:A one way mirror. A one way mirror right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, uh. So then we went through that and then there's like a little store area I was talking about, where they have the different things there. I'm not really a store, but just like a little booth in the middle of it, um, and then on the other side of that you have to be, uh, oh, wait. First there was a dungeon, um, which we walked into, uh, the dungeon, and we saw them flogging and everything, yeah, and during this whole time my partner had already been, uh, dancing and grinding on me, so we were like really turned on on the dance floor and everything. And we came in there and I was still like grinding on her and feeling her.
Speaker 2:And then her friend looks at her and she goes are you okay with this? Is everything okay? And for a second my heart skipped a beat. I was like wait a minute, is she seeing something I'm not seeing? Is she not okay with this? Is this too much for her? Um, but she's like no, she's, but she's like no, no, this is, she's like I'm very interested in this.
Speaker 2:Uh, so, uh, she was asking, like what the rules were for flogging, like if you can go up and look, and she just straight free, walked up and just just started inspecting it for five minutes and it's not really her kink, she was just interested in it and everything. And then the dungeon master gave us some more rules on what to do in there and the cleaning measures, the safe words that they have. And then we saw the big open room where couples were, and this just had beds with the waterproof sheets, and then you had stations there that had sheets, the waterproof sheets, and then you had like stations there that had sheets, they had towels, they had lube, they had condoms, they had sprays and all that kind of stuff. There's like three or four of those, like throughout the, throughout the whole area.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, so okay, when you guys went from like you, you started in like the dancing area and then you went over into, like the play areas what was your girlfriend, just like I know you said she was like all curious and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:But what did you guys have to be like, okay, are you ready for this? Like? Are you like? Because I felt like that was like a big thing for me. When I first went to the club I was just like you know, in my mind imagining, okay, there's gonna be all these people like having sex everywhere. But then I was like it can't, it can't possibly actually be like that. Right, I kept thinking it can't, it's not, it's not gonna be like what I'm imagining. Oh, it was, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I was just like wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I was just like, wow, so yeah, when we were on the dancing side, we had started to talk about the revealing clothes people were wearing and, oh, maybe we should have gone a little bit more intense on the costumes. I was like I told you guys, because I was looking on Amazon for stuff, she's like you're not going to wear animal print stuff. I was like it's Egypt, I can be like a cheetah, it's great. I was like it's Egypt, I can be like a cheetah, it's great. I was having fun with it. Um, so, when we were dancing and grinded, they were all, they were all drinking and, like I said, my partner really likes to dance. There was like nineties, two thousands like rap and R and B, which is her jam, I mean, to the window, to the wall, like we were, we were having fun with it. Um, and we were grinding a lot and and she was feeling, you know, really aroused by it as well. Um, she did wear something that was like very like bejeweled and like bedazzled, so it kind of looked like it was, um, one of like those really like thick necklaces, but it was like on her shirt, um, and the shirt was like a onesie thing too. So, and like the sexy leather dress, it was great. And she's very um, she, uh, her ass is definitely her, her most prominent feature, um, it's, it's a really nice ass. It's big. I like big ass. Um, and she also the way her body proportions, everything. Her upper body is much smaller than her lower body, so it like accentuates it even more.
Speaker 2:Um, so we were like kind of playing, like you know, showing that office, and like she was grinding on me and talking you know people watching a little bit, who I see this over here, um, and then once they're all like loose and ready, uh, we see some people like starting in the head out, and then we're like all right, do we like want to do it? And we're like, yeah, I was like is everybody comfortable? And I'm from New York, so I'm like I got no problem with a metal detector in a club, like yep, that'll be safe, that's fine with me. Um, I was happy. I didn't wear my cage though, because she didn't want. She didn't like want to expose them that much.
Speaker 2:So the couple things, um, she's like, but we go through, they give us that little tour and then when we get to that last area I told you, the couples area. That's where, like you said, people are just having sex. There's one area with, like, the lights on, but then there's a room in the back and this is where that one-way mirror is and it's just got a red light in there. There's porn on the big TV there and when we walked back there, we started just like kissing and her friends started like to go off to one area. Um, because they're the club really felt more like an exhibition and voyeurism rather than trying to hook up with other people. Pretty much everybody stayed on their island, um, but when we first walked in there, um, her friend, before she went off with, uh, her boyfriend, she pointed out this one guy in there who had like a 10 inch big black cock, super thick, super dark, and this super pale, very skinny, uh, uh like tall, slender, white girl there and just she was just like stroking it and like everybody could see it, and this was still like at the beginning of the night. So there were only like maybe eight, ten couples like in this whole big area and we were just like starting to watch that as she went out and as her friend went out.
Speaker 2:And I asked my partner because we said on the beginning of the night we were like, okay, we're going to do hot, cold, warm and cool, just for you know, how are you feeling about it? And I was like how are you feeling? I was like hot or cold, and she's like let's go get a room. She's like let's go get a room. So it only took her about like five, ten minutes like of like grinding on me like you know, watching uh that, and she was like looking right at him and stuff too. And the reason she was doing that too is before before her friend went away. She's like most of the people in here they like if you watch them when you do that, so uh, so yeah, she's like looking at it and just like really turned on by it.
Speaker 2:Um, so we go get our own room. Um, and it wasn't too eventful in the room. It was just, you know, uh, normal, normal sex going on, but we forgot to get a sheet, so we just have the towels and, um, cleanliness is a big thing for my partner, so we had the. She didn't want to be on the, you know, on the bare stuff herself, so we're like trying to navigate that. Um, and my hands were on things, so she didn't really want me like to finger her too much, so I was just eating her out with like no hands at all.
Speaker 2:Um, and yeah, and just like the way everything worked, I wasn't like able to like come in the moment.
Speaker 2:I was kind of like overstimulated, so I was just. I was like I'm not going to be some good sex in there, some raunchy sex, uh, and that was like fantastic. Everything was good, um, and then we get out of there and as we get out of there, I I want, like other people like to see what we're doing, like I, you know it's starting to be on the thought of everybody in there. So we go back to the area and then we start to to people watch more and as we're, as we're doing, the people watching she's like looking one way and I'm looking another, and as we hear the moans from different people, we're describing what we're seeing on either side and that was like it was just like such a little thing, but it was such like a sexy turn on Cause, like we couldn't see what each other was looking at and oh, and unfortunately, the cause we were talking about like trying to find that that guy before, because she really likes 10 inch BBC yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he was, he was gone already. He was gone.
Speaker 1:We came out and we were like he was suffocating under a pile of women somewhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were. We looked for him but yeah, he was already gone by the time that we got there, unfortunately done with everything that we did. So we're just like grinding like that and having that talk right there was really good. And then I started telling her because I knew that, like she was like she didn't want to start getting busy on anything right away, like she wanted to make sure we got a sheet. This time we got everything, especially because we were out, like where other people were. And so I started telling her about how, when we get back to the hotel, I'm going to get all clean for her and then I'm going to fuck her in the hotel and I'm going to. And she was loving that.
Speaker 2:I was like, yep, I was like we'll just get all dirty here and have this, have this, you know, nice watching time here. I was like, and don't worry, I'll just use my mouth here, but then I'll go like to sober up a bit, as it's, you know, getting later on the night. So her friend is still there, like going to town, going crazy over there, and I'm worried that because she's sobering up and like we're kind of not stuck there. But you know what I mean. We're with other people that, um, that it might, you know, uh, they kind of go away that the mood might shift. But as we're doing that, we start just like kind of, uh, we get a sheet and we just lay on this one big circle bed and it was kind of weird putting it on because it was like a triangle that we had to put a square sheet on. But I made it work and I sprayed it all down nice before, and she's like thank you for cleaning up for me.
Speaker 2:And I was like, of course, my dear, and just like those like little chore each other and doing stuff, and and I start telling her how she can have any cock in here that she wants, but, um, but my cock is the only one that's hers and that, um, and that I'm not going to have any pussy, that's the only pussy that I can have is hers. She can have any cock, but I can only have her pussy. And like that dichotomy was like turning us on so much, so like it started hitting us like a wave and we started to get into it again and she was like kind of nervous about like having sex in front of people, so I didn't know how far she wanted to go with it. So I'm like slowly undoing my pants and pulling out my cock and we started doing it and she has a onesie on and I just start pressing against like that, you know, like fabric in the middle without like taking it off and we like start to see like a few eyes on us or anything. So I'm just doing that and grinding in on it and because of like the angle that we're at, like I said, she has a big ass kind of hard for me to get like that deep in there. So that kind of like denial penetration sex was actually like really really hot Cause you know, it looks like we're having sex Everybody's seeing us do that, but I'm not penetrating her and that was like a really really sexy denial thing.
Speaker 2:Um, and then this is it's got to be like almost 1 am at this time. Um, I like look up and the whole night it was a very diverse crowd. There was um people of every, every creed, every color, um 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, like 50s, like a lot of different people tall, penny people, skinny people, you know, um short people, fat people, every every day you can imagine. So it was definitely like a very diverse crowd just in general. And then towards the end of the night I'm like looking up as we're in the middle of this and there's like five to seven couples that come in and it's all black guys with all black girls and a few of the black guys just come in and like starting to like flirt with different couples and it was like it was funny. I told my partner after I was like it was like they're running out of the bowl.
Speaker 1:Funny how that happens. Huh, they just come in and they start flirting.
Speaker 2:It's funny how that happens so, yeah, and like the mood like definitely shifted and I looked like off at the porn like on the tv and there was like some bbc porn on the TV and there was like some BBC porn on the TV and I'm like, okay, this is cool or whatever, um, and like a few guys like I saw got turned down. But this one guy was like looking at my girl's ass and I told my girl about it and she's like, yeah, she's like does he look good? I just like hear the clip up and like see the cause. It was like elastic, just like see it like fly out like from her ass. And just I was, I was like in heaven, right there, and and and like he like puts on his condom and he's like slow, and she's like looking at me and I'm just like looking at her and then like she starts like to stroke, like me right there, um, but like she's focused on him, so she's not really like stroking me. She just like ends up just grabbing my balls and just like squeezing my balls as we're there and she starts like just fucking him and they just like go to town, yeah, and just like she, just they just start fucking. It's, it's amazing. You know, I'm like watching it and um, and he goes until um, he comes, and it was probably like 15, 20 minutes. Um, he didn't really like uh, wait for her to come. She told me after that she did like she goes, eat my pussy right now, eat my pussy after you get it done. And I'm we are right in front of the like the mirror, like everybody can see right where we are there, and when she lays down there, I just put my face in and start like eating her out and she ends up coming and like squirting and like it hits the mirror and I couldn't breathe for a little bit Cause she's like holding my head in and I'm like and like it's all wet and crazy and just it's like we like heard something like on the other side of the mirror. Turns out that there was like five or six people watching um, so uh, so yeah, that happened, uh and uh. And then we like get our stuff together and then we find out that our, our friend, was over there. Actually, uh, they weren't like watching us because there was other people to watch too, but they told us when they were in the watch side, because they had already finished, that they weren't doing that too. So then they ended up like, seeing that you guys got really intense. They're like, yeah, you know, we're kind of into that. And then we ended up like leaving.
Speaker 2:I drove everybody back. We went to the hotel where we did end up having that clean sex. I got in the shower. Well, first she got in the shower and she's like let me just have a minute to put myself in the shower. And I'm like, all right, and a little bit of me is worried that, damn, maybe they're not going to hang out Because I haven't came. This whole time I am on edge and I'm sober, I'm just ugh. So I'm like, okay, hopefully this happens. So she gets out of the shower and then she comes to me and she gives me the coffee and she was cleaning this off too. She goes and I want you to come out hard with that on.
Speaker 1:So I'm like okay.
Speaker 2:So I get all clean, I take a nice steamy shower, I come out and she just gets on top of me and starts riding me. And we have this thing where, like if I'm, if I'm feeling like more in a submissive mood, I'll say like my penis and I'm feeling more like masculine. I'll say like ah, and that's just, you know, like a like good indicator between us, like what mood we're feeling for everything. And it's also like if I'm, if I'm like more like on the limp side, cause sometimes you isn't always like crazy wet and everything. You know what I mean. There's different, there's different moods for that. So it's like fun to have that play like with a penis and then like, have this hard cock. So she starts fucking me and I'm like, damn, like my cock feels so good inside of you. She's like that cock. She's like that cock is so hard. She gets harder than I felt, she gets bigger than I felt, um, I've ever felt and I'm doing that. And as she does that more, um, she starts going. She starts going, but it's not as big as him. She goes. I want more, I want more cock, I want bigger cock and I am. I am like off my mind and as she keeps going like that, I was like what do you want? I was like, tell me what you want. I want big black cock, I want big black cock. And she ends up coming and I come, and it was probably only like 45 seconds but it was like the most intent, like completely unloaded, um yeah. And then she made me go down to her one more time and like eating out the cream pie, um uh. And then like I fingered her and stuff too, like to really, like you know, give her a penetrating one. But like at that time we were just our minds, were like so fuck, we didn't even like say anything, we're just like uh, uh, the same thing.
Speaker 2:In the morning, like I was like I woke up and I was like that was amazing and she like saw I had a hard cock and she got right on top of it and she's like I was like how does that feel? She was like I can barely feel a thing. She goes, she's like I need that and she goes I need more cock and just same thing. And just came to her and she had never been into the any type of like race play or anything before. Not that she's against it, like she's has no problem ho up with black guys, but it's just not. She doesn't care one way or another and it's not that big of a deal to me, like I'm much more into like the cuckolding, you know, side of anyway. I want her to get off with who she's with, so it doesn't really matter to me who it is.
Speaker 2:But there's an extra level of, you know, sex appeal there and it was kind of funny how, you know, the mood definitely shifted a little bit there. She found one and it was great. It was a great time. That was my night. I had to share it with you, venus, because I knew that you loved it, especially those times when we were just talking in there, when we were seeing the other stuff.
Speaker 2:That was so hot, just telling each other that my cock can't have any other pussy but she can have any cock in here that she wanted, and just like getting off on that, like that was.
Speaker 2:It was so hot because as a guy, like the default expectation is kind of like you would get with any pussy you could get. You know what I mean. It's like all right if we can get pussy, take it. So there's almost like a desperation there, like if you do like go out and just fuck everybody, whereas the girl's only more reserved and stuff. So that way if you are going to have sex with someone like you're, you're putting up a high bar like for who you're actually allowing inside of you. So like having the guy like do that, uh, uh, contrary role there, um, and kind of subvert that expectation there and be that in that denial and and holding being in control and taking what she wants and being able to have any cock that she wants, and just it was. It was so good, even though he wasn't as big as the first guy that we saw, um, it was still it was. So really he was like a good, like eight, eight and a half inches that's so awesome.
Speaker 1:I love how that all played out because, like, I mean, how many okay was that the first time she slept with another guy since you guys have been together?
Speaker 2:no, we have, um, we've had one that we've done like a full-on couple day experience, um, and then we've had, uh, a few that she's gone out um and hooked up with guys, either texted me or called me like during that um, and then I told you some things have happened in my life that have made, you know, going out on that stuff a little bit more fun. So we've done a lot of dildo play, um, and she's gotten very comfortable with the dildo play as well, because there isn't an expectation, there's not the insecurity of another person there, and with insecurity I mean, you know the fact that there are safety concerns that you have to take into account when you're bringing some strange horny guy in.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what you guys experienced at that club is probably like I don't know such a great way to sort of dip your toes into it, because, like there's no, when you go to this club, there's no expectation that you're going to do anything right. You're going to just play together and whatever. You can just like go and watch.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's like no expectation, no pressure to do anything, or at least there shouldn't be any pressure from your partner to do anything at a place like that, but for her to be able to just go and watch and explore and talk and, you know, get turned on and then still not feel like she has to do anything is a great kind of like no pressure scenario for her to feel comfortable to explore if she wants to. That's exactly what happened. I mean and that's that's the great part about it because she was allowed to like, like, be really turned on, get really turned on and make those decisions in that moment where she was just like OK, I'm feeling good, I want to do this, and look how it turned out. Like that is hot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fuck.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:Yeah it was. And when we had left the private room I had said I was like I'm probably not going to be able to come. I was like, just cause, like there's so much going on and you know, we like we're not at good angles and you know all that kind of stuff Um, I was like my mind's in a thousand places. I was like, so the only thing that I would like is if, when we're out there is if you just like, stroke me off. I was like, and you can do that, not even you can keep it in my pants. You're going to love, you're going to love this. So, because we don't have the cage, whenever we don't have the cage and I'm wearing jeans, we call it the denim dungeon. So I was like you can even play with it in the denim dungeon. So so that that was the only expectation. I was like that's the. And she was like, yeah, I'm totally fine with doing that. She's like I don't think I'm going to want to do anything. But then it just once it was there and once, like you know, she saw the you're okay with this, alright, and it was really. It was really great and, yeah, just giving her that freedom to do whatever she wanted. That also made me feel really at peace, that I knew that I could do. I could know that could just be. I could know that, whatever I was doing, that she was okay with it, that we had our safe words, we had, um, I didn't feel any off vibes the whole time. Um, and we had talked about that before, like what happens if we feel this way, what happens if we feel off? And I was like you can just start at any time, there's no expectation, but you don't have to hook up with anyone. Um, and because it was much more of like an exhibitionist, voyeuristic vibe, at least at first there and there weren't that many people intermingling, it was just kind of like okay, we're all in this sexy mood together, everybody's just having fun and having sex. Not necessarily that we're like in a ball all having sex together and like everybody's touching everybody. Cause, like I said, the cleanliness is always her biggest thing, which is why she just did doggy with him. She was like I don't even want to lay down in this thing, I just want to be up here, and that's why it was more satisfying for her when we got back to our place. Well, the hotel was just good. We just let loose and had fun, with no expectations. She knew everything was clean.
Speaker 2:At that time there were parts of me that wanted to like, finger her at a time. There were parts that wanted to go farther at a time when she was holding me back. But the cheat code that is cuckolding allows you to bask in that denial for a minute. It allows you to and this is something I wish all guys in all relationships would take advantage of Like when she doesn't want you, like you don't have to do every single thing at every time. You can just enjoy that tantalization.
Speaker 2:You can enjoy that distance when magnets, when they're getting close to touch together, like that little buzz that you feel. That's something that you can bask in. You don't have to use that as a negative. So it just made it hotter every time that we did that. So then, when she finally took my cock out of the denim dungeon, that was hot and the fact that she was calling it a cop and she knows what that means to me. As she's telling me she wants more, she's like no, I know this is your biggest. I know you feel the most masculine. I know that this is the most that you can give me.
Speaker 1:I still want a bigger black and the way you described when the vibe changed when the black guys came in.
Speaker 2:Damn yeah, it was. Uh, it definitely, yeah, it definitely. I like I, I have no idea what the plan was, but like. And then all their girls were just like, watching them. It was like I want to know the story of how that happened, because it looks so organized and it was just like what is going on oh my god, that's like okay, that's Splash Mocha, where you have, like you know, 500 black men.
Speaker 1:all of a sudden, you know and you're like, holy fuck, you guys need to go to Splash Mocha.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I definitely want to. We've talked about it a little bit too, so we'll see if we can organize it. It was funny too, because before that now listen, everybody can do everything in cake, everybody can have fun. But there was a funny moment where, like in the middle of everything, like where we're on like one of our breaks because it was kind of like wavy the whole night where we were like up, like on highs and really horny and stuff, and then other times we were kind of down and just like talking and giggling and then we'd go up and down again.
Speaker 2:So there were a couple of times like we did like talk with her friends really quick, or her friend that was there. And there was one time that she was like well, we had to move because there was a little person over there and I was like, oh, okay, and like I looked at I saw this guy that was like kind of short and I'm like he looks, he looks fine, he's like maybe like five, two, it's not that big of a deal, um, but uh, uh, like there weren't like super, super tracking people there first, but then it was. It was funny because then I saw what she meant. There was a, there was an actual. He came off the bed and, um, he was very, he was very short, but he was like the most jacked person I've ever seen. But he was like like under performance, like just the expectation there got me. Um, but yeah, there was a lot of different people there. But then, like when all these black guys looking like tall, like dark hands of black guys, it was just like, oh okay, shit, okay, shit just got real.
Speaker 2:Um, and that's like why, when, when she like looked at me, like we, we didn't even say anything in the moment, she was just giving me looks and she was just like, is this okay? And I was just like, yeah and um, and I would look at him and I was just like, yeah, like we don't know his name, we don't know. Like, all I know, all I know is that he put on the comm. That was the only thing that I made sure. And, like I said, when he undid that button, I just heard that snap and then it fling open the elastic on it. I was just like, oh, like he's. I was just in that pussy. I felt how much more room there was for more cock in that pussy and he's about to fill it up with his big black cock.
Speaker 1:Oh, so are you guys planning your next Swingers Club night out, or what?
Speaker 2:Yes, and we actually we were looking at the events on it and we saw that we had just missed the Hot Wives night. We're like, no, we could have gone there a couple weeks ago, like I definitely would have won my cage, that one. So, yeah, we're looking forward to the next one. I think the next one is like an all white and then like wet t-shirt contest thing, so we might go to that. But we want to go hard in the next team and obviously, with you know, a lot of stuff going on, we can't just go every single weekend. That'd be nice, but instead we'll have to plan it around a little bit for when we can go. But, yes, we are. We are diligently planning the next one. Basically, we're letting the ladies plan and, uh, me and, you know, her friend's boyfriend are just gonna tag along for the fun time.
Speaker 2:Um, and the only rule that like we had going in was that nobody like in our party would hook up because they're just too close to friends. Um, yeah, and I also, yeah, I just felt like that would be. That's one one of the rules that we have, like no family or, uh, like close friends or co-workers, something where the dynamic could get weird about it. I'm not that we couldn't become close friends with people that we hook up with, but you know what I mean. The difference there, something that you don't have in that sexual avenue of your life. You don't want to insert that there, which works out too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's totally understandable and I think that's a good general boundary for couples to have, at least to start out with. I think that's a good idea. Yeah, okay, yeah, least to start out with. I think that's a good idea, yeah um, okay, yeah, I fucking thoroughly enjoyed this story and I knew you would. My favorite parts about this story? Definitely the part where the black guys come in. The vibe shifts like hell.
Speaker 1:Yes but, I also really love that part where you guys were both explaining to each other about what you were looking at and how much of a turn on that was. I think there's so much emphasis put on the watching the chick get fucked by another guy in cuckolding that I think it's that part so fucking overrated and I would love to draw more attention to these little moments where you're just having this kind of psychological, mental striptease together, which is sounds like what you guys are doing in that moment where you're talking about what you're seeing and it's like so hot and such a turn on for each other, so I would love to share.
Speaker 2:That was like seeing it from her eyes yeah, like seeing it from her eyes what she found sexy, what she was talking about, like, oh, the nepotism there over. I just see her breast starting to pop out and I can see just the edge of her nip and I was like, oh my like all these details. It was, yeah, it was. It was so, it was so hot and and also my like, as you said, that too, I think that my favorite part of it was when she's just stroking me.
Speaker 2:When I'm in the denim dungeon, she, she, was rubbing on the outside of my pants and I'm telling her that this is your cock. You can have any cock in here that you want. I was like, but this is the only one that's really yours. And I was like, and I can't have any other pussy, there's no other pussy for me Like other than you. I like like I'm completely pussy free and you have you own this cock. I was like and you can have anybody in here and like that. Just, she told me after that it made her feel like a queen. She's like I just felt so powerful in that moment that, like I could have anybody and you still were going to not just be with me but love me more, like the more that I take, like that, that I can get this and I can also have more of it that abundance mindset Like she she didn't say it in those words, but that's exactly what she was and that like was a lot for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was the queen of Egypt that night. She absolutely was.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:So you put her on the throne.
Speaker 2:I was a Julius Caesar.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, you did it. Oh, I did, I did Well. I have absolutely loved this story, Johnny. I'm so happy that you could be coming back on the show and sharing this experience. I'm sure that everybody listening is going to love this story as well, so thank you so much for that. Where can people go to learn more about you or your blog? All that good stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my blog is on my Twitter, confidentcuff. It's confidentcuffwordpresscom. You can find me there. You can also find me arguing about some stupid political people. Um, uh, having fun with that.
Speaker 2:Um, going after trolls that don't really know what they're talking about with cuckolding dynamics. Um, and having fun. Because one thing I do just want to say before I go here is that you know some people will hear this and be like well, you had sex with her, so it's not a true cuck, and they missed the whole point of what a loving cuck couple relationship is Like. First, it's a relationship and you can have those vanilla times, you can have those fun times where you're just having normal sex.
Speaker 2:It doesn't always have to be your crazy fantasy and I think that a lot of men especially but so much emphasis on finding this fantasy instead of just connecting with the person that you're with and trying to let them feel comfortable.
Speaker 2:Because when they're comfortable, especially if you're in coupling, if you, if you really get off on the compersion not that you just want to have your own porn star to do what you want as if you're a director, but no, if you really love that compersion and you love seeing her get off and you love her being satisfied and you want to make that happen, even if it's something beyond your own physical body, then just let her know that you're into it, and if you guys are intimate enough together, then it's going to naturally happen. Um, so yeah, just like focusing on that relationship side of it, because even if, even if all we did was she did just stroke me, uh, and the club and we didn't even do anything else, or if we just went out dancing with our friends, that would have been enough, just because we were together with each other. And I think that if that isn't happening first, then you have to reevaluate the relationship.
Speaker 1:Oh, I agree A hundred percent and I think there's a major misunderstanding, I guess, or that idea that people have around cucks and that cucks don't have sex with their partner. I'm like I don't know where this is perpetuated, because there are some couples who engage in total sexual denial, like that. It doesn't mean that their sex life isn't completely full it really is but they may have complete sexual denial, but those are couples that have been together forever and this is something they slowly evolved into. This is not something that they were just, you know, met on Tinder and they were like hey, so I want this, okay, oh, okay, sure, I'll do that for you. And then they, you know, have this relationship. It just doesn't work like that.
Speaker 1:So I and the that, from what my experience over the year, the vast majority of cuckolding couples actually have very robust sex life together, piv sex life together. So I feel like that cuckolding part just adds this different aspect to it, another layer, and it just accentuates this amazing sex life that they already have. That's the norm, that's the common, common thing. So I get it. With like porn, mainstream porn, scripts and stuff like that, the sexual denial part is really amped up because that's a hot fantasy. I totally get it, but let's, let's base ourselves in the reality of a actual, real loving relationship and understand that. You know that's just a, that's a playtime thing for most people, for sure, yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2:We'll have to do another episode talking about the pussy free thing too. But there's a lot to unpack with some of that and you know, some of it's hot, some of it's weird and we'll have to talk about that one another time. That's a whole, nother episode.
Speaker 1:I know? Have you done a blog post on that?
Speaker 2:I should ask you actually, Um, I don't think I have done one on that actually, Um, because it's yeah, it's it's not something that I've engaged with so much, and it was hot when we were in the club and and, uh, and we were talking about that, when I said to her, I'm like I'm pussy for you, except for you, Like she, she thought that was so hot and everything and that that was a cool way to interact with it, where I still get to have her and we have our relationship and then I'm denied to everybody else. So that way you get to play with those denial emotions without actually completely giving up the PIV sex there. And even though she wanted more the whole time, she did end up orgasming on my cock as we were doing it, because orgasms happen in the brain, not in the body. So you've got to make sure that's done first. So, yeah, that was yeah for sure. I should write one on that. That's actually a good idea.
Speaker 1:Yes, let me take it. Yes, there you go, all right. Well, we've run out of time for the show today. Thank you so much for joining me, and I know I'll have you back at some point soon, so thank you.
Speaker 2:Can't wait.
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