The Venus Cuckoldress Podcast
The Venus Cuckoldress Podcast
Surprise! - Becoming a Bull for your Boss and his Wife, and Diving Into Interracial Parties, with Mr. Mocha
Mr. Mocha, cohost of the Ofacez Podcast, joins the show to share his journey into the lifestyle as a black bull and swinger with his wife. He shares his hilarious story of how he was thrown into his first cuckolding dynamic scenario with his boss and his boss's wife and how that experience shaped his curiosity and eventually his love for being a black bull in the lifestyle. He also opens up about how he met his wife and ecouraged her to be sexually free and uninhibited and how that led to them hosting parties and becoming a host couple for Splash Mocha events.
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Here's what's coming up on the show. He obeys, walks over, take your pants off. Still hasn't clicked. I'm fucking her. He's standing in front of her, takes his pants down, so he's got him down like to his knees. So she grabs his dick and it doesn't even make it to her mouth before he fucking comes all over the place. Shit, she snaps. This is why you have such a miserable. And I'm fucking her and I'm like, oh my God, he's going to beat her up Like while I'm fucking her, and he starts oh honey, I'm so sorry. And he's going through this. I apologize and I know I'm miserable. No one has given me any clue at what kind of game we're playing here. I'm literally inside of this woman while she's saying this and like I start going down, like I start dick start getting a little soft. I'm like what the fuck is going on here? I'm going to have to protect this lady with my dick out. This is about to get really weird.
Speaker 1:This is the Venus Cuckoldris Podcast, a place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious, for the passionate and for the sexually empowered woman who wants it all. Let's go. Welcome to the show. I'm your host, venus. Thanks for joining me today. Let's go.
Speaker 1:That's where I met him, and so he's going to be talking about how he's been a black bull in the lifestyle for many years. So he's got a lot of information about what that's been like. But he's going to share his story about how he was kind of like thrown into the cuckolding thing. Like the story is so crazy it's hilarious. But also he's going to talk about what his journey has been like and his incredible marriage to the most incredible, amazing wife, mrs Mocha. So he's going to talk all about that and we're going to be talking about the hotel takeover parties that are interracial. That is a Splash Mocha event. So we're going to talk about what that looks like, what that feels like mocha event. So we're going to talk about what that looks like, what that feels like and some tips for couples, for guys, and the ever increasing popularity of interracial in the lifestyle. So it's going to be an awesome conversation.
Speaker 1:But first I have a couple of announcements. So the first one is I have joined Blue Sky Social. I'm going to eventually fade out my Twitter because I fucking hate Twitter X whatever you want to call it, and Blue Sky Social seems pretty fucking awesome. I've been on it now for like a week and I like it. I just like Twitter, minus all the garbage and, yes, it does allow porn. So this is all very important to you guys that are listening. You're like, but Twitter's where the cuck porn is. Yeah, fucking know about that. Okay, I get it. But now there's somewhere else that will keep you very happy, I promise. So my handle on there is at CuckoldressV same handle as Twitter, and I really want you to come and join me there. If you follow me, I'll follow you back. So that's at Kuckledris V and it's called Blue Sky Social. It's free and just sign up, just like you did with Twitter, and it's a lot of fun. So I'll put the link in the show notes for today so you can find it there, all right.
Speaker 1:Last but not least, I did a bonus episode recently with the amazing always wonderful, always great to talk to Crystal Welch and we tackled a listener question which was all about this guy who feels like he is what he calls addicted or hooked on interracial porn and he really, really wants his wife to, you know, cuck him with black guys, but like she is not into black guys, she just won't do it. And so he's really stuck because he feels, like he he absolutely has to have that and in order to be happy and fulfilled in his life, and and but he's just he doesn't know what to do. So this is a question I get asked often, or I've heard of often, where you kind of have this incompatibility and what do you do? So, crystal and I, we tackled this question and our answers might not be what you would think, so it might be a bit surprising for you. I don't know, but for those of you who support the podcast, by becoming a fan tier or of any of the tiers in the fan hub at venuscuckledresscom, you get access to the private podcast and all the I don't know there's like over 100, I think bonus episodes on there on the private podcast. So thank you for supporting the show. You got access to that bonus episode. If you subscribe to Apple podcast subscriptions, you got access to that episode as well, and so if you are thinking about supporting the show. Now is the time to do it, because it's a great bonus episode that we just put out. Okay, that's it for announcements.
Speaker 1:Now let's jump into today's show with Mr Mocha. Here we go, joining me on the show. I have a special guest, mr Mocha. I'm so excited to have you here. Show I have a special guest, mr Mocha, I'm so excited to have you here. He is the co-host, with his wife, of the oh Faces podcast, and him and his wife are a host couple for the Splash Mocha events. You may have heard me talk about that on the show before, so welcome Mr Mocha to the show. Say hello to all the listeners.
Speaker 2:Hello everyone and Venus, thank you for having me on. I'm excited to be here. Always, any excuse I have to see your face, I'm good.
Speaker 1:Okay, and so for all of you listening right now, you need to be watching the video on YouTube, because this guy is sexy as fuck.
Speaker 2:You're making my cheeks turn red.
Speaker 1:He's so hot like damn. I'm just like it's gonna be really difficult to do this interview.
Speaker 2:I'm not gonna lie, because this is a mutual thing like I'm just staring at, I'm just looking at you, so I'm, I'm good here. Make sure you give me good questions or I'll be distracted by you, venus I'm gonna my best, but I'm already flustered, so let's just jump right in.
Speaker 1:Okay, lucky Mrs Mocha, you guys are married. And how long have you been in this lifestyle for? How did it all start out for you?
Speaker 2:So I've been in the lifestyle since I was 23. Been in the lifestyle since I was 23. I was introduced to lifestyle before Mrs Mocha and I got together, so I was actually introduced by a coworker and I had no idea what it was.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'd worked with him for quite a while and we were all out having drinks after work and we'd done this a million times. And we're all drunk and he comes up and tells me his wife likes me. And I'm like, oh, that's nice, I like her too. He's like no, no, she likes you. And I'm like, thanks, I like her too. So he grabbed me by the shoulders and he goes hey, she likes you. So automatically I'm thinking like oh my God, this guy thinks I've been flirting with his wife or something. So I'm like dude, I've never done anything inappropriate, I've never tried to. He's like no, no, no, no, no, calm down, calm down, I'm okay with it, I'm okay with it. And then I'm like you're okay with it. He's like yeah, we're, we're good with that. And I'm like, hey, bro, I don't. Well, what are you saying? He's like listen, man, we're, we're, we're swingers, and you know she likes you. So, if you want.
Speaker 2:And so my heart's pounding out of my chest because you know I'm a, I'm a guy, and like it's not every day that some, like a fantasy, just walks up and literally taps you on the shoulder. So I'm still like not sure if it's real. So I'm like, okay, all right, yeah, so we go, we go back. We go back. We wind up going to my place Cause they've got cats and I'm allergic to cats. So we go back to my place and I'm like afraid, I'm nervous in my own place, and they're just like she strips her clothes off and he's like, and I'm like, in my mind, I'm like what am I supposed to do? Like I'm freaking out inside, but I'm trying to stay nice and calm and cool. Like yeah, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2:So, like he gets in the bed and he starts, you know, playing with her breasts and everything, and she's looking at me and they're looking at me and she's naked, and he's naked and I'm like I've never been in this situation before. So I get in there and I'm having a like massive failure. My brain wants in my dick's out to lunch. So she's like like I don't know, because I'm still saying to myself, okay, is this guy going to try to fondle my balls, you know? Like is he going to get? I don't know, I'm 23. So she makes me comfortable, you know.
Speaker 2:And then I realized, you know, we're both focused on the same thing here. And then everything starts to work, all systems are go, and then we have a great time. We have a great time and then after that, afterwards, I get like a full explanation of this is what this is and this is how it works. And I'm like full explanation of this is what this is and this is how it works. And I'm like how does a guy sign up for this program? And they took me to parties and introduced me to people and they told me how to act and how not to act, and that was how I started, that was how I got into it.
Speaker 1:Wow, that must've been pretty mind blowing. I can totally understand your reaction at first when you were like, oh my God, oh my God, she's interested in me. Like, oh shit, if I was in your shoes I'd probably be pretty terrified. You don't know what some jealousy in some guys.
Speaker 2:That can be scary person, I'm naturally very flirty. So, yeah, yeah, I I don't. I didn't flirt as much with Venus because Venus is so, so hot and she always has a crowd of admirers, men and women, around her. So, you know, I had to to tone it down, you know, with Venus. But I'm going to keep trying to flirt with Venus one of these days. But, uh, yeah, so.
Speaker 2:So my wife, you know, if you fast forward many years, when I met her, by the time I met her, by the time I met her, I went from being just like a. I started off as like a, just a single guy, learned the ropes, played with hot wife couples, got introduced to cuckolding without being told that that was the introduction. So I just kind of got, you know, drop, kicked into that A guy I did security for. For a long time I did security for a guy, knew him, knew his wife, and I mean I'd done security for maybe like a year, personal security for this guy. I'd carry this guy into his house. You know, literally I've driven him around His wife, would he? He? I always thought he just treated his wife terrible, like he talked to her just terribly. Just he just talked to her like shit. He was so condescending and rude so I just kind of felt bad for her because he was like a super nice guy with everybody. But his wife.
Speaker 2:He comes to me one day and goes hey, listen, my wife, my wife likes you, she thinks you're a good looking guy. You know, and you know how you feel. How would you feel about coming to a hotel with me, her and another girl and and doing something? And I'm like I'm saying to myself I wonder if she's aware of this. So I'm like is she cool with that? He's like, no, she's, she's, she's fine with it. I'm like, cause I didn't want to go into a situation where I feel like like he's making her do something like ah, it's not my thing. So we go back and forth. He's like, dude, just if you're uncomfortable, just leave. And he's like you're security? Like who's going to keep you in here? I'm like, oh, okay, so fast forward, go out, go to the room.
Speaker 2:We actually start off. We start off with me, his wife and another girl and he's watching me and his wife play with another girl. I don't play with his wife, I only play with the girl and the girl plays with his wife. So she leaves and I think I'm done. And he's like, hey, you know, you can go ahead.
Speaker 2:And I'm like looking at her, because she's had a great time with the girl, but she's super submissive, doesn't say anything. And then me and him are talking and I'm like, yeah, but I'm not sure she's going to be comfortable with me touching her. He's like no, no, no, go ahead. And so we're like standing over and so finally I go back to the bed and I'm like kind of, you know, reluctantly, you know, are you good with this? And so she tells him go sit down. Here's the thing. But at this point it hasn't processed in my mind that this is the first command I've ever heard her give him, first one. And she says just go sit down. So he goes and sit in a chair in a corner and you know she's kind of touching me and you know I'm standing at the edge of the bed and she's just like touching my body.
Speaker 2:This is back when I was young with muscles, so you know it was all hard then. So she's like touching everything and she's looking at me but she like kind of looks at him and I'm looking at her and she's kind of a little predatory, but it's still not clicking in yet it still hasn't. Because I'm really saying, man, I hope this lady's not doing this against her, will? I hope I'm not taking apart in some weird shit. I'm still in my head I mean I'm, you know, I'm not even fully hard because I'm kind of like man, I hope she's good. So she puts her mouth on it and I realized, oh, she's good, she is comfortable, she is really comfortable, like oh yeah. So I kind of forget it.
Speaker 2:I mean now he's kind of gone and she, you know she's working it. So I get on the bed, get behind her and she says come here. So I mean she was happy to talk about how small he was. I mean he was probably a good three inches, so she wasn't used to taking any any real dick. So I'm fucking her, but I'm not going wild because you know she tells him to come here. So she says come here.
Speaker 2:Still hasn't clicked. He, obeys, walks over, take your pants off. Still hasn't clicked. He obeys, walks over, take your pants off. Still hasn't clicked. I'm fucking her. He's standing in front of her, takes his pants down. So he's got him down like to his knees. So she grabs his dick and it doesn't even make it to her mouth before he fucking comes all over the place. Shit, she snaps. This is why you have such a miserable. Like she goes and I'm fucking her and I'm like, oh my god, he's gonna beat her up. Like while I'm fucking her and he starts oh honey, I'm so sorry. And he's going through this apologizing. I know I'm miserable. No one has given me any clue at what kind of game we're playing here.
Speaker 2:I'm literally inside of this woman while she's saying this and like I start going down, like I start dick start getting a little soft. I'm like what the fuck is going on here? I'm gonna have to protect this lady with my dick out. This is about to get really weird. So I like looking at him. She's like go fucking sit down. This is what a real. So now she's saying this is what a real man is. So now I'm catching on like okay, we're clearly, we're good.
Speaker 2:He's like doing the penguin walk back with his pants around his ankles, you know over to the chair in the corner and talking I know how miserable. Talking about how miserable his cock is, and then, remember I have never even read about cuckolding at this point. So the next thought that hits my mind is wait, I hope she don't fucking think she's going to talk to me like that. And so I start punishing her, like I mean I am fucking her into oblivion and like she's like slapping the bed and she's like like yelling at him. This is how it's supposed to be, this is how man takes it, and I'm like that was my introduction into it.
Speaker 2:So we we I mean it wound up being fucking amazing, like it just wound up being crazy, and like we did that. And at the end of the night, you know, I get dressed, my head is like fucked up, like he. I didn't even get warmed up. There was like no lube. You didn't tell me that I may be stepping into some super weird shit. So I get we, we walk out, he walks me out and he was like hey, just make sure you don't tell anybody about this. I'm like dude, you don't have to worry about me telling anybody about this shit. I don't even know how I feel about this shit.
Speaker 2:Like this whole time I've been feeling bad for this woman. This whole time I've been feeling terrible for this sweet little woman and like she literally stayed. They stayed in scene until we left, like she was. And that's when I realized, behind closed doors they had this weird thing. And it was then, every time I see them after that, like I would get hard instantly and she would be so submissive. And and then like after that, like if I bring them home, you know after night doing security for him, take them up, take them and put them in a room and she like like she's like, you know, I want you to stay here, I want you to fuck me next to him, and when he wakes up I want him to know what you did to me. And I'm like this is some wild shit.
Speaker 2:And that was my introduction to cuckolding. It made me do research. Like it made me really do research, cause I'm like if there are more people out here like this half of me wants to meet them all and the other half of me wants to run away. I didn't know how I felt about it. But you know, after that, then you, then I started understanding and identifying and and realizing the difference. So I didn't even get like a soft introduction in the cuckolding. So after that I'm like let's go.
Speaker 2:So that was those two aspects. So once I finally met my wife, I had been in the lifestyle, and for so long. So I just had this mentality. Like any woman who I meet, I'm going to tell her right away this is my lifestyle. So I didn't any any woman who I was with or playing with or interacting with. I let them know what my lifestyle was and if they weren't okay with it, like we can be friends, and I'd always say I'm cool with being friends. If you're not comfortable with the way I am, but I can't be, it's either I'm going to be this way or be a cheater.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I don't want to be a cheater, so Mrs Mocha was happy to be in the lifestyle.
Speaker 1:You're so lucky because a lot of guys just can't find or it's very difficult to find a woman who's going to sign up for that kind of that kind of thing. And amazing that and so, so, so great that you were able to say, hey look, this is what I'm into and you know, I appreciate if you're. If you're not into it, that's cool, we can be friends. But like there's so many guys who just wouldn't have the guts, I guess, to bring that up and say that and and it's amazing that this is such a big part, is become such a big part of who you are, that you need that aspect in a relationship to be able to feel fulfilled in your life. Like that that's pretty cool. And then your wife signed up for it. She was like yeah, fuck, yeah. So how does she feel about that? I know you can't speak for her, but like, how do you think she feels?
Speaker 2:I mean, we've talked about it a thousand times, so I was just very direct about it. You know, I think most guys are afraid. Most guys start off as liars. Yeah, and that's where the problem is. Most guys think that they can come into the relationship and lie, lie, lie and then eventually say, oh, by the way, I was in the lifestyle. So you've already started off with deception. You know the fear of losing that person. I get that. You like this person, you don't want to lose that person.
Speaker 2:But if most guys have this mentality that you know, some I'll get with her and then I'll cheat, because you know, you know, guy, code one on one is not I don't cheat on you for me, I cheat on you for you. I cheat on you so that I don't hurt your feelings, because most guys are fine with that. I didn't feel that way. It's like I don't want to have the fucking lie. And then, also, because I was so promiscuous before my wife, I didn't feel like we could be a good team if she didn't have access to the amount of excess that I had before her, because then she couldn't understand me, we couldn't be compatible. So I needed to open the door for her because you, you know, you meet somebody and you can see that animal back there and you can see that they're holding back and I just remove all of that. Okay, I don't want you to have to hold back and, as a leader and as a dominant male, I believe that if you're gonna bring a woman into this, you have to lead from the front. So let me find out what your fantasies are. Let me find out what you want. I've done it all, so we're gonna start. I'm gonna prove to you that I can stomach you doing the things that I want to do. Okay, I want to do.
Speaker 2:Ok, I want you to see that when you play with some guy, you're going to get rewarded for enjoying yourself, because society has told you that sex is bad. So I mean, and then, of course, throughout the process, there was a lot of you have to encourage, you have to make sure she knows, reinforce a lot. There was a lot of positive reinforcement, because it's not just even if you're a guy who's completely comfortable with your woman doing it, she's got the demons within herself. You know, she's got all of these years of the girls in school and her parents and society saying that, oh, if you fuck it, if you get tag team by three guys, you have to explain yourself. There has to be some sort of explanation. Oh, you have to be drunk. No, you don't have to be drunk, and my wife knows. All you have to do is say, daddy, this is what I want, and you can fucking have it, does she?
Speaker 2:call you Daddy Of course she calls me, that Of course she started calling me daddy. I never said, I've never in my life said call me daddy she started calling me daddy, but you know that's hot, um, okay.
Speaker 1:So. And then you guys started like throwing lifestyle parties and stuff like that together. Is that what you started to do?
Speaker 2:yes, so. So we actually started off. We started off hosting parties for SDC. So we would go to parties and we would just we're like it's not. As you know.
Speaker 2:Well, let me start, Mrs Mocha is an animal. Okay, she goes into a place and she's not pretentious. People see her being laughing and joking and getting naked and stripping, and that's really who she is. Like, that's her, there's no fake about it. So we would go to parties and she go in and she do this and people like, oh my God, and she was like what? I thought we were swingers. Are we not supposed to get naked and do this? I thought we were swingers. Are we not supposed to get naked and do this, you know? And so, because of her energy, we found that if she wasn't, if she, she always had to bring the energy. So we were like you know, hey, we might as well start doing parties. And someone recommended us to SDC. They talked to us and we started hosting parties.
Speaker 2:And then, of course, mrs Mocha if she's the party hostess, you know she's. If it's a meet and greet, everybody's excited. If it's a, if it's a meet and greet where it's like only swingers, oh my God, like I'd have to tell her like hey, hey, it's still a public venue, put your titties away, okay. And all of those other women who you've convinced somehow to take their titties out, please go make them. Put it Like. So she's just that person. And that just led us into hosting house parties. And once we started house parties, that was just you know, and it was just her. We started having a birthday party for every year and those would be crazy. The house would have 150 people in there at a time.
Speaker 2:And finally she then, in a lot of the traditional lifestyle parties, she just said you know, there's not enough people having sex, like she just said there's not, there's not enough people fucking. She's like I want to be in the place where people are having sex and this is my wife, this isn't me, my that's, she's the sexual deviant, like deviant. Like she is a bad influence on me. So it's like I brought her in and she's like she's a savage, you know. And she's like okay, how do we find people who want to come to a party? She's like I want women around me who are uninhibited. I want women around me who will come in and not be ashamed and not not, you know, do the pretty girl blow job, you know, and not do the oh, I'm not going to get naked. And she started attracting that. Or people would come and say how do you do this? And she's like oh, come on, I'll show you. Struck people naked. And then we just started having parties where you'd have all these ladies in the party who it went from.
Speaker 2:Most lifestyle parties are almost male dominated, and when I say male dominated, the men are kind of controlling the flow of it and you know it's a male dominated party when the party can start at eight and go into four in the morning. If you put 10 horny women in a room with a hundred guys and those women are taking what they want, the party can't last past midnight because there's guys are like, oh, get it off me. And when we learned that I am the person who, I will organize it. But when party time comes, mrs Mocha comes out, her girls come out and they just take the fucking party over and it is, it's magic. It's magic when women are running the party. It's crazy, I can't even explain it. And we've had so many people come to the parties and they're like I don't understand this party. It's like our house is empty by 12, by midnight. But that's, that's how you know women are taking charge. They're not feeling bad.
Speaker 2:One of the funniest things is like there's a lady who came to one of the first parties, one of the first parties and she said she called my wife later. She's like you know, I only played with four guys. I didn't want to seem greedy, and my wife she's like I fuck 17. I didn't want to seem greedy and my wife she's like I fuck 17. So she's like you're good. So the next time, next time, the next party, we had that lady I shit, you, not Her and her husband was posted up in the room and it looked like a NASCAR event. He was giving her water, coming out and bringing in hot towels, wet wipes, and she was like rotating guys in and out. And my wife was like after we're see, don't you feel better? And she's like yes, she came to every party after that, you know. So, yeah, so we got. We were wild for a little bit there.
Speaker 1:That's, that's the power of women when we are sexually empowered, and we sexually empower each other. That's the vibe. I like it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm excited to meet her at Splash Mocha in November. How did you guys get involved in Splash Mocha? Because when I first met you, a couple what was it? A couple years ago, two, three years ago yeah, at Splash Mocha, like you were, I think, I don't want to say part of the event, but helping with the event. So how did you guys get involved in that?
Speaker 2:So in 2019, we went to Splash Mocha. We went to Splash Mocha in 2019. We were actually there as an SDC representative and you know my wife being the constant just everybody loves Mrs Mocha, okay, everybody loves her. You know, I'm just kind of like her tag on she's Batman and I'm Robin, you know. So we just kind of we talked to the, to the, the owners of the event. We talked to Dimitri and you know we, because we'd done so many parties in Atlanta and before Splash, we did a lot of promoting for other hotel events that came to Atlanta. So we did a lot of promoting. We did a lot of promoting for the Trapeze Club when they introduced the Diamond Club, so we would do things back there often. So we were constantly doing things in Atlanta. So we talked to them and they asked us hey, you know, would you like to be a host couple with us? You know, help, you know, join in, you know, be part of the Splash Mocha family. So we got into that and I mean we have fun.
Speaker 2:We, we went because so I'm not really good at reading stuff. Okay, the way my life works is, if there's a thing that needs to be read, my wife reads it and tells me about it. So she saw Slash Mocha and she was like, daddy, this looks like a great place where I can go and get a whole lot of chocolate dick. And so I was like, all right, let's do it. So I just thought that I was going to go there and just be like, yeah, not really have a good time. Turns out I could have a good time and she had a great time. The first podcast after the first mocha, her statement was it was like swimming in a sea of dicks. That was she was very happy about that. So, um, needless to say, there is, you know, we will always be a part of Splash Mocha, because my wife can swim through a sea. It's like Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory like that, that chocolate pool. That that's what she's, yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's that's why we we stay there Stay there, that's heaven, yes, okay.
Speaker 1:So for those of you listening who are not familiar with Splash Mocha, how would you explain to people who have no idea what this is? How would you explain what Splash Mocha is, what is the purpose and what does it look like and feel like?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 2:So this is like an interracial playground. So if you are a hot wife couple, stag vixen couple, cuckold couple and your wife is interested in meeting black men, this is a great place to go. I think it's good for a few different reasons. Number one the guys are vetted and the vetting process is more of a. You make sure that the guys, even if they're experienced, new, whatever it is, they understand proper etiquette, because oftentimes perceived disrespect is just a lack of experience. So the vetting process makes sure that they understand that they have to be respectful If they want to come to the event. The vetting process helps them understand what type of couples are going to be there, because I can say this you know now that I'm older and I've been in the lifestyle so long the bulls, the males.
Speaker 2:There's a journey we as men also have to take a journey from what society says is the norm to the experienced bull that people are looking for for those who are looking for bulls. So you have guys who are in the beginning bull that people are looking for for those who are looking for bulls. So you have guys who are in the beginning of that journey, all the way to guys who are seasoned veterans who know what they want, know how to identify what couples want. So that's where the vetting process comes in to make sure that wherever the guy is in this journey, he's going to accept those who come. So if you are a cuckold couple and the guy is in this journey, he's going to accept those who come, you know. So if you are a cuckold couple and the guy has no experience with cuckold couples, he's going to be vetted and he's going to learn that. Okay, if you see something that you're not accustomed to, don't be weird. If you see something you don't understand, if someone requests something of you that you don't, you're not interested in doing, just tell them what your boundaries are For a couple.
Speaker 2:If you're a stag vixen couple, and okay, I get it. Buddy, this is the first time you've been brave enough to come in and let your wife play with all of these black guys. It doesn't make you less of a person. It's just that oftentimes you'll have a stag vixen couple who comes into this environment and where they live at they may not have access to Black men. So this is a great place for a husband to come bring his wife and be social. There's not a competition. You're not less of a man. It's just that if I can eat strawberry cupcakes all day and then I go to a place with a bunch of chocolate cupcakes, it's not that I don't like the strawberry cupcakes, I don't have access to these. So I'm going to enjoy these, because next week I'm going to be back to the other cupcakes.
Speaker 2:That's how the husband needs to see it, because sometimes you have a husband who will come in and he'll get halfway through the event and he starts having this complex. You know, no need for complex. She still loves you, she still loves your cock, but she's got a few days to play with all of this. So let her enjoy it, you know. And then the guys who are coming in with hot wife couples the hot wives, that's. That's a fun group. But with those husbands, I tell those husbands make sure you explain to guys that what you are you can say I'm not a cuck.
Speaker 2:If someone thinks you're a cuck, don't jump off. I mean, don't go wild. Calm down. Okay, he didn't mean it. He may not have known. No-transcript, I'll be stroking it, but don't judge me. You know but, and then I also, you know, play. I do everything, you know, but, and then I also, you know, play. I do everything, you know so, with the guys. If you bring your wife, make sure you're comfortable in your own skin and understand that if you come to an event like this where you're giving your wife the opportunity to play with black men, she's going to have a great time because these guys even though they every guy is not going to be your cup of tea, most guys are going to be very respectful. You know so and don't just don't confuse respectful for being weird or you know, or being nervous. You know the guy walked up and stuttered. He's not being creepy, your wife is beautiful and he doesn't know what to say.
Speaker 1:You know, get a poor guy a break, yeah so it's a hotel takeover party with like four, but it's not just for like white couples that like black bulls. This is because I, when I was there, I saw some um other interracial couples who were there to partake in the fun too. So but is it, is it mostly white couples that we're looking, that are looking?
Speaker 2:for You're correct. You're correct, it's not only for white couples. It's an interracial party, you know, but that's probably the larger percentage. I mean any, all couples can come. I mean, there is no, everyone is welcome. Completely Oftentimes, like interracial couples have access to different things, but I've met a lot of people who just don't have access to certain things in their area.
Speaker 2:So oftentimes it seems like that. That is the group. And then, let's be honest, this is still very taboo within circles. It's not taboo to us because we experience it often, but it's still taboo to a lot of people. You know, we experienced it this weekend talking to some new friends that we met, where the lady said you know, hey, your husband's a good looking guy, but my husband couldn't handle him, me playing with him. I will never, ever get offended by that, ever, ever, ever. But it's still taboo in some places. So oftentimes, the people who are coming. It's more taboo for white couples, it's less taboo for Hispanic couples, you know, less taboo for the couple. So everyone is welcome by all means, but you will see, the majority of the couples are white couples, all means, but, you will see, the majority of the couples are white couples.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the environment makes it so that people can easily be approached. It's not like normal life. You walk into that hotel and you're now in a place where it's very simple to approach somebody and talk about what are you into, you know, and this is not like normal life. This is not like even going to, like a bar or a club at home near your home. You know, like this is something so different where the expectation is that you can just approach random strangers, even though you don't know this person. It's safe to do so in this environment and you can just, you know, straight up say what are you into? Like are you having a good time?
Speaker 1:Strangers, even though you don't know this person, it's safe to do so in this environment and you can just, you know, straight up say what are you into? Like, are you having a good time? How are you feeling? Like you know, and and the guys can be direct too, which is great like when I was walking around splash mocha guys like coming up and like they were very respectful but also playful and fun about. Like hey, like here's my, here's the key for my room. Like um, bye, anytime damn it.
Speaker 2:Is that what I was supposed to do? I don't know if I'd have known that was. I did it wrong, damn it. I did. I knew. I knew I'm gonna have an extra key next time. Okay, I'm just coming to just drop the key in your purse why even bother having keys for the rooms at splash mocha?
Speaker 1:that's all I gotta say. No, I'm kidding, um, but it's just like it's fun, like that's a different kind of environment. So I am I am definitely on the uh with the idea that this will be like a good thing for for new couples to go and at least try it. But don't go with any expectations. I think that's when you were talking about don't psych yourself out Like this is, if you go with the expectation of just you know what. We're going to go check it out, see what it's like, maybe meet some new people, meet some friends. Like no expectations, anything beyond that kind of thing, what do?
Speaker 2:you think, explain that, explain. So this I have to ask what do you mean? Like no expectations. What does that mean?
Speaker 1:So for me it was always I'm not going to go and fuck anybody Like I'm. I'm not going to go with the expectation that I'm going to fuck anybody, because I'm I not. And so I'm going to go and I'm going to meet lots of new people and I'm just going to see how the vibe is and have fun and go with whatever happens. Some other people are not like that. They're like scheduling in their fuck appointments and I'm like I could do that too, I guess. But if I was going to a new space or a new venue, or even if I'm not, then I enjoy going with. Well, let's see what happens, kind of thing, and anything that great that happens beyond just meeting new people. It feels like a bonus to me.
Speaker 2:Okay. So I'm a little different. Okay, I feel like if I go to a restaurant, I'm going with the expectation of eating. Okay, now, I may not go with the expectation of eating a particular thing, but I am definitely going with the expectation of eating. And I usually tell people if you're going to this type of environment, I think that you know that you can have an opportunity whenever you really want it. But most people they're going to go into it and possibly miss an opportunity. And you hear it all the time. Man, I wish I would have done this or that, I wish I would have done this, because they haven't psyched themselves up, they're going in and they had the opposite role. I don't have to. We.
Speaker 2:I spoke to a couple there and he's like oh well, you know she's going to, she knows she wants this particular type of guy and he has to talk to her for this amount of time and he has to. I'm like dude, do you do understand? And your wife is gorgeous, but you do realize I am not going to sit here for three hours for the possibility of playing with your wife If I say the wrong thing by mistake, like bro, like I'm not courting her here. You know, later on there's a lot of people from Splash who we we've become great friends but, like bro, like I'm not, and so that's they come into it with the expectation of we're not playing unless this guy does that. And by the end of the last day I talked to them when they were sitting there and you could tell she was a little disappointed. She was a little disappointed because she didn't play as much. She felt like she could have played and you know he's like well, you know, maybe our expectations are a little off. You think Really you want me to pretend like I married her, like no, I mean, I want to be polite and I want to be kind. So I'm always weird about expectations.
Speaker 2:For me it's I go in with the expectation of playing. I don't go with the expectation of I'm fucking everything. I don't do that at all. But I know that I want to play, I know that I want to experience it. I like to immerse myself into the culture because to me it's part of the culture. Going there saying that I laughed, saying that I met new people, saying that I played with amazing people, having experiences that I can walk away with. So yeah, for me, yes, I'm definitely, absolutely, absolutely going in with expectations, you know. Now I mean I'm having extra room keys for the next time I see you.
Speaker 1:It's not an expectation.
Speaker 2:I know it's not an expectation. I'll be, hoping you know, just telling my wife like, hey, you can go and talk to Venus. For me that's a good word maybe talk to venus.
Speaker 1:For me, really good word, maybe. Yeah, oh my goodness. Okay. Well, splash market is going to be a ton of fun, and that's what I know. Going into it like, I know, no matter what, it's going to be a ton of fun. Um, yes, and I think it's great that we have these opportunities to go to these kinds of parties, but really, there are just not very many of them. I feel like the demand for interracial parties is so huge and yet there's so limited options when it comes to them. Would you agree? Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2:Do you feel like interracial?
Speaker 1:is getting more and more popular.
Speaker 2:I think it's getting more socially acceptable. No-transcript. By that, you know, that's like me saying that, you know, I don't, I'm not attracted to some, I cannot be attracted to somebody, but you know, a lot of people don't do it because they know it's not socially acceptable. I've been to parties where I've had I've talked to a couple, I've talked to ladies she's flirty, she's handsy, she's touchy, but it's like, oh, we don't play black guys. So now I think it's more okay to, it's more socially acceptable to do it, you know. But then the challenge is, you know, I constantly have a debate about how you create good spaces where you know you have guys who are experienced enough to provide the experience that couples want and couples who understand that if you encounter quality guys, you understand that they are quality guys and they're not a dime, a dozen. Because I think oftentimes that's where you start, where it's difficult to find good parties.
Speaker 2:There's parties all over, but there's some parties like I've been invited to and I'm like looking at the guest list and like three of these dudes who are going to that party, I would invite them to my house if they were bringing cash. You know, or you know, so you know, because they don't, they don't offer that, or you know so you know, because they don't, they don't offer that what I, what I would call quality. So I think the challenge with a lot of getting good interracial parties is being able to get guys, that guys get couples, vet couples because I vet every couple that comes to my party. I tell them the same thing. I tell guys I have expectations for them as far as behavior respect.
Speaker 2:If your husband gets sloppy drunk, if your wife gets sloppy drunk, you both got to go. So just there's the standards. So I think that there are lots of parties, but standards is an issue, and a lot of those parties are parties that you wouldn't even go to the outer ring of the circle. You know. So you know, I know, for me I won't like me and my wife I'm like, yeah, I'm not taking you there, but it would be nice to see more quality parties.
Speaker 1:I agree. If there were more options available, that would be amazing. I know there's fuck all in the city in Canada that I live in it's a fucking barren wasteland when it comes to that, but I would travel to Seattle at least. Anyway, we are out of time and I can't believe that because I feel like I had so many more questions. Maybe you can come on the show again for me, please sometime.
Speaker 2:Whatever you want me, venus, whenever you want me, I am here, or you can just come to Atlanta and just do a live interview. I think you'd enjoy that more.
Speaker 1:Oh fuck, yes that would be amazing, oh my God. Okay. Well, I know I will see you soon, in about a month in Houston, awesome.
Speaker 2:So yes, I'll see you soon in about a month in Houston. Oh, awesome.
Speaker 1:So, yes, I'll see you and I'll meet your beautiful wife, and I can't wait. That's going to be awesome. Where can people learn more about you and your amazing podcast and all of that?
Speaker 2:So our podcast is O-Faces. O-f-a-c-e-z podcast is O faces, o F A, c, e, z. And we learned the hard way that there is a podcast that spelled O faces, which we didn't know that, and I shit you not. Someone said, oh yeah, you guys have the. You guys are the one not making this up with the midget, like what? Let me Google this. So, yes, make sure you put a Z at the end of it. Okay, I don't know what's happening over there, but that's not us, that is not us. So, yeah, o-faces we have. We just we just started back up. We usually stop during the summer, so we're just starting our podcast back up.
Speaker 2:As we continue, we're introducing a couple of different segments. You know, we had the Dirty Girls Corner, where it was just Mrs Mocha and her ladies just unapologetically, filterlessly, saying what they were thinking, which is amazing, filterlessly saying what they were thinking, which is amazing. It's so funny because she's a clown, but she's just real. So we have the Dirty Girls Corner, the Cutting Board me, I'm always talking about things from the male's perspective. As men, we have a hard time sharing our thoughts and our feelings, the things that are really rattling around inside there. So I'll let you have it all. And then the O'Faces podcast is the one with Ms Simoka and I, and we're introducing a couple more segments, so make sure you check us out. You can find us anywhere you get your podcast, whether it's Spotify, apple, iheartradio we're all over the place.
Speaker 1:And I will include links to all of those in the show notes for today so you can get the correct link just by looking in the episode description for today's episode. Mr Mocha, thank you so much for coming on the show today. It has been such a treat.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much for inviting me, Venus.
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