The Venus Cuckoldress Podcast
The Venus Cuckoldress Podcast
Crushing Defeat & Unable to Compete with BBC; A Cuck is Born
This is the true story of crushing defeat when trying to compete with BBC and how turning that that trauma into an interracial cuckolding fetish has brought Mike down a road of self acceptance.
We discuss the complex dynamics of identity, confidence, and acceptance, exploring how societal pressures shape self-perception and we encourage listeners to redefine traditional norms and embrace their unique qualities.
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Speaker 2:So yeah, they both get down in front of us Nicole in front of me, rachel in front of him and they start pulling down our pants. And I was already hard from just the excitement of it, and Ryan, I guess, was not. But when we pulled our pants down, I mean, everybody just let out a gas. Or me and Nicole did, because Ryan was soft and he was almost twice as big as me. Oh, shit.
Speaker 2:In that moment I was kind of like oh shit, but I didn't think too much of it until I saw Nicole like jaw dropped. And that's when it really got bad, because he started growing and I looked smaller and smaller compared to him and our mutual friend was like no, not really. And our mutual friend was like no, not really. I didn't know, you guys were still seeing each other Because she had told me that she was flying out to some NFL game to meet this player that was in her DMs. I started pulling my pants down and I knew something was up immediately, because she looked at it and she let out like a smirk and then she took it in two fingers and I forget what she said, but she's like, oh nice.
Speaker 1:That's better than oh cute.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah, you know what I think? That's what she said. Oh my god.
Speaker 1:This is the Venus Cuckoldress Podcast, a place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious, for the passionate and for the sexually empowered woman who wants it all. Let's go. Hello everyone and welcome to the show. I'm your host, venus Today. Today. Today's episode is absolutely one of my favorites Because this is a sensitive topic for a lot of guys out there and this is a fascinating window into the soul of a lot of men for. So, for women who are listening to this, this is going to be absolutely fascinating. It's going to be incredible. So a great learning opportunity. It's just. It honestly blows my mind. So many of you will remember the most popular, most downloaded, most listened to episode I have ever done. That was called when she Goes Black. That was way back in the first season. I think it was episode number six.
Speaker 1:I believe I'll put the link in the show notes for today's episode, but I talked a little bit about my experience with black men and my sexual preference for black men, and in that episode I brought up, I read out, this quote that my friend had just casually said in a conversation that we were just having in DMs and it went something like this with my girlfriend and the moment a black man walks into the room and I see her eyes shift to him. In that split second moment I feel defeat, like he has won, and I am reluctant to accept it, but I accept it. He has won and I like it went is. It was a little bit more detailed than that, the quote, but I remember reading that and thinking to myself that was profound. I had never, even I never heard of like guys thinking that way, and so I thought I I bet a whole bunch of other guys feel that way and they have. They just just don't. That's not something that they share.
Speaker 1:And so, sure enough, after that episode aired holy fuck, I had so many guys be like. That resonated with me so much. That is exactly how I feel and I was like this is amazing that there's so many of you guys that feel this sense of defeat and yet none of you guys are actually like talking about it really. So I just felt like I had this very unique opportunity to really peer into the soul of so many of you guys in a very vulnerable and honest understanding of what it is that you are thinking in that moment the sense of defeat that you can't compete with these guys, and today's guest is my friend Mike. I've known him for a long time and his stories. I'm so proud of him for sharing his stories. But his stories are really incredible because he was introduced to this reality of defeat early on and in a very kind of rude way, almost like dramatic, and I know I laugh a lot and giggle a lot in this episode but it's funny, but it's also like it's just so incredible to me to hear about these stories. So I do take it seriously, even though some of the things are kind of funny, and but I think it's really an amazing story how he talks about how he was introduced to this reality of defeat and how it has happened repeatedly in his life where he's lost out to black men and BBC and that this keeps happening and that it's just been frustrating for him but also very hot. And one of the things that I would like for listeners of this episode to leave with after you listen to this show is that I would love for you to have this kind of deeper understanding that there's more to you that you have to offer if you just think outside of the box of what's expected, what society expects of you, that if you just let go of those expectations and embrace this kind of creativity, of thinking outside of the box, of what's quote unquote normal and expected of you as a man, that you have amazing things to offer, if you only get to that part of creativity and acceptance and that's not easy. So that's what I hope people who are listening will leave with with this episode today. That's really incredible. That's coming up and I will be announcing it on Wednesday, february 19th. That's February 19th. I'm going to be announcing this huge project that I have that I'm launching. That's coming out on that day. So check my socials. Okay, I'm on Blue Sky at Cuckoldress V and the Venus Cuckoldress podcast on Instagram, and I'm going to be going live on Instagram on February 19th at 12 o'clock Pacific time that's 3 pm Eastern time. So make sure that you check it out. I'm going to be. I'm so excited to be able to announce this project finally, and I'm really, really, really happy about it. So check it out. I'm going to be. I'm so excited to be able to announce this project, finally, and I'm really, really, really happy about it. So check it out February 19. All right, that's it for announcements. That was really quick.
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Speaker 2:Hey everybody, nice to be to the show. Mike. Say hello to all the listeners. Hey everybody, nice to be on your show, venus.
Speaker 1:I'm so happy to have you here. I can't wait to have this conversation. I think this is going to be so, so, so good. You, along with many, I want to say millions of other guys out there, have this real love for interracial, interracial, porn, interracial, whatever, and like. This is a real, a big thing for you, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is. I mean, I would say, probably all the porn I watch now is interracial. So it's been a big thing. It's probably been a big thing for a while. I'm late 20s, but I think this is something that started a lot, lot earlier, and it probably started a lot earlier for a lot of guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree. I mean I just keep seeing it in the news and in articles and stuff like that how wildly popular interracial is. I mean you just look at like blackcom. It's crazy. So how did this all start with you? Is this like a long time thing and did you feel like a switch was flipped or something like that? What's your origin story around this interest?
Speaker 2:Well, like I said, I'm in my late 20s now. Um, this probably started, I want to say, well, actually I can kind of pinpoint the moment, but it is definitely a thing that came from college and I don't think I even realized it at the time. It kind of blew up after that and I think I kept thinking about that, the incident, let's let's call it, and it kind of spiraled from there.
Speaker 1:I mean, I can elaborate on that story if you'd like to hear it yeah, we're gonna get into that, but I would just want to say that I you know it's funny. I've heard that from lots of guys. Like I've talked to a lot of guys over the last decade about interracial and college years are formative, like there's some shit going on in college that is flipping the switch for a lot of these guys. So tell me, what was it for you?
Speaker 2:I can only imagine um, okay, well, it's a bit of a story, so I guess let me backtrack. I I'm I'm from kind of like the northeast area of the united states, so, uh, and I went to a pretty big school. Um, I won't delve too far into that, but it was a school that is it's part of the big 10 now, which, for the people who don't know sports, that's like one of the 10 big schools that do college sports, so football, basketball, all that stuff, okay, and that that is relevant because of what happened afterwards. So this this is probably. It was in my junior year, so this is just after I had turned 21. Um, I was actually dating this girl for like about three months.
Speaker 2:Uh, her name was nicole, or I'm gonna say nicole, uh, as a pseudonym, but yeah, so I was dating this girl, nicole, and, uh, you know, it was was really cool. I had started dating her before our 21st birthday. So once it happened, we started going out together and that's kind of how our bond was. It was very party and fun focused. I guess you, being 21 years old opens up so many new doors. Right Now we're not partying at a you know a frat, we're going out to bars and clubs. So it was. It was definitely, you know, a good, a good relationship and it was a fun one. Uh, but being a fun one, you know, we were a bit more open to doing other things and so, well, this, this is kind of the.
Speaker 2:The incident itself is me and me and nicole decided to have like a double date with, uh, one of her friends, this girl, rachel. Now, the thing is, rachel is a was a cheerleader for the football team, okay, and of course, rachel's boyfriend was on the football team, right, and I did not know that. I knew she was a cheerleader, but I didn't know that was her boyfriend. I thought it would just be some random guy and, lo and behold, I meet him on the day of and it's this six foot, you know five, like massive ripped black dude. And now again, me being me I I mean Venus, youus, you know me, you've known me for a while I I've always had a little bit of a uh, I don't know, maybe it's egotistical, but I I've got a little bit of alpha feeling to myself and so in that kind of situation I didn't think too much of it. Now again, this is before the whole interracial thing started, and so for me I'm like, oh, whatever, just a dude, I'll talk smack to him and you know, I'll level the playing field of of both of us. So but he was a chill dude, very, very chill. Um, and rachel was super hot, so like it was not a bad double date, um, and we went out to some bars. So we went out, we had a good time, it was a great time. We all had, you know, not too much to drink, but enough to have a good night. And so rachel was staying at this, like there's like a really really nice kind of dorm that they had just built. So she was like oh, come back, let's's play some pool, let's hang out, we can hang out in my dorm, or whatever. So we're like okay, let's go hang out.
Speaker 2:One thing led to another through our conversations that night and I mean to make a long story short we decided on having a foursome. I don't know how it really came to be. I think actually it was Nicole that suggested it After me, and I didn't even give this guy a name. Me and Ryan came back from we were playing a game of pool, and then we came back, uh, to the room and so they were like, hey, you know, here's a crazy idea. And so it happened so fast.
Speaker 2:Honestly, it was like a blur. I was like, okay, I'm, you know, game, whatever, this guy is cool and whatnot. And, uh, they just told us to stand next to each other and they were like, we'll pull down your pants together, kind of like you know. And, uh, we can, you know, we'll go from there. Um, so you know, me and ryan, like whatever, you know, we're cool.
Speaker 2:Um, kind of weird, because I've never been next to another guy that was nude, like that. I mean, you know, I don't think many of us have been in those situations other than like in a locker room, but even then it's not like, oh dude, we're about to get our dicks sucked. So, yeah, they both get down in front of us Nicole in front of me, rachel in front of him and they start pulling down our pants. And I was already hard from just the excitement of it, and Ryan, I guess, was not. But when we pulled our pants down, I mean everybody just let out a gasp. Me and Nicole did, because Ryan was soft and he was almost twice as big as me.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, it was a huge, like I mean I'd watched porn before obviously. I mean we all probably start somewhere in high school and so, but the mindset is always like that's not real.
Speaker 1:It's not real.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course those people exist, but there is a reason they're in porn.
Speaker 2:Like yeah, like it's like the extremes, right, not everybody is built like the rock. Like I don't expect to see that guy walking around every day. Yeah, but this dude, if he wasn't in football he definitely had a good uh career lined up for him porn, because he had a huge like it was and it was. I mean it was really thick, was what I remember. The length was one thing, but it was just thick and I mean, again, in that moment I was kind of like we're still drunk a little bit. I was like oh shit, but I didn't think too much of it until I saw Nicole like just like jaw dropped and Rachel just smiled and then she started sucking him up.
Speaker 2:And that's when it really got bad, because he started growing and I looked smaller and smaller compared to him. So, yeah, it was not a. The ego was really taking a hit at that point. Um, and I guess to paint a picture like I'm, I mean I would say I'm not the smallest guy, but I am probably a little bit less than five inches. So I mean I want to say this guy was probably 10 or more than that. I don't, I don't know, but he was huge. I know you used the uh forearm test yes, yes he.
Speaker 2:He surpassed the forearm of the girl. That was, oh wow, he was, he was massive anyway. So we continued, rachel was sucking him off and then nicole, after her senses came back to her, she started sucking me off and you know it was great. But I noticed that she kept looking over and I mean I was again. I wasn't too worried, I wasn't like, oh, this guy's about to like steal my girl or something, but I was. I knew she was interested in it.
Speaker 2:I didn't think at the time she'd ever had one like that. I don't, I don't think she did. And so you know, we're getting sucked off, whatever. And uh, I remember this pretty well because, again, I don't know if they had talked before what really happened. But after we were getting you know head for about five minutes they had us lay down and we were like kind of in doing 69, but me and ryan are kind of like laying foot to foot, so we're like in opposite ends and they're on top of us, kind of looking at each other right, and all of a sudden, like I don't know if, like like she just started really sucking me off and I mean I came uh, which you know that that's not great in that situation.
Speaker 1:It was a bit early.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was, it was an early bloom, um. And so rachel was like, oh, no, you know, like that's like too too early, too early. Mike. And nicole is like, oh, it's okay, it's okay, he can, he can get it up quick again. Uh, why don't you go, go and clean up and we can work on it? And I was like, okay, no problem, no problem. And so I, you know, get up, I go to clean up.
Speaker 2:And now I come back and they're both sucking Ryan off, and I would say it's, it's literally like right off a porno. They're both like she's like showing him, her, how to like suck off a big dick. That that's literally what was happening in front of my face, wow. And I just could not get hard, because now I was like, holy shit, that's, that's so different, what she's doing with him is so different.
Speaker 2:Because she was going deep throating, she was getting his head in and that was about it, and so I watched that and they knew that I was watching, uh. But I I asked nicole if she could like come over and like, you know, hey, I need some help getting hard. And she's like, yeah, just give me a second, give me a second, um, and well, after that I'm trying to piece this back in my head, sorry, so I don't know if it's traumatic or uh or not. I mean, people would love to go through this experience, but I think for a lot of people, if you haven't gone through it unknowingly, like not expecting that situation to happen, it is, it is. It is a doozy oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2:I feel like at that moment, like a cock was born yeah, no, no shit um the birth of a cuckold oh man, we should make a movie out of this, yeah, so anyway, yep, I, I watched, and, uh, nicole did not come back to suck my dick she was busy she was very busy. She had her hands full and her mouth and her pussy.
Speaker 2:Well, not yet, but that did come. That came, um. Well, that's, that's actually what happened, very like. Next, uh, rachel said I want to watch him open you up. And I was like, oh shit, I thought I was gonna open her up like I was gonna fuck her first because I mean, I'm not stupid. After having that, she's probably not going to feel mine uh, yeah and so I was like wait, hold on, let's.
Speaker 2:Uh, why don't I fuck her first or I'll fuck you, rachel? And? And she was like no, it's. You're not even hard yet. You can wait a bit. Maybe watching this will get you hard. And so I watched her lay down and Ryan got in front of her and oh my God, I mean he stretched the shit out of her. I was probably watching for 20 minutes while he just tried to fit his dick in. It was crazy and the sounds like I don't know how anybody in that dorm didn't hear what was going on. I don't know. I mean, maybe you have more experience with this, but like I had never heard those sounds before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know what you're talking about, oh so so, yeah, so she, I mean he started fucking her. And again I asked rachel. I was like hey, I'm hard now. Could you come over, and how about we have some fun too? And she was like uh, no, I'm enjoying watching this. Uh, I think I'm gonna keep watching oh no and now I'm now I'm actually cupped right.
Speaker 2:I'm literally watching my girlfriend get dug out and the other girl who was supposed to be sharing, or that we're supposed to be sharing, is not even interested. And, oh my god, I can't even count how many times. Uh, she came, like she, and oh, oh, oh here's the thing okay.
Speaker 2:So one of the other things I really got into it after this moment was squirting. In my experience, everything with squirting has always been like you know you? You see this huge spray gush out as the woman comes um. That's not what happened in this situation.
Speaker 2:So he was fucking her and he was he kind of had her picked up and was like oh, that move yes yeah, he was fucking her in the air, so he was holding her in the air and she was kind of a small girl, so, like, like you could. I mean it's pretty easy to fuck somebody pretty hard, based on the size difference of those two. And I heard her coming and she was shaking on him and there was no spray though, right.
Speaker 2:So I I didn't think she could squirt in the first place and when his dick came out of her it all just dumped out yeah it was just a huge drop of water and or whatever squirt fluid and I was just shocked because I realized he was just so big that it wouldn't come out plug yeah, it was a plug and it was building up inside her and it just all dropped out and I was just shocked and at this point, like I wasn't even hard anymore, like I was again, I'm pretty sure to all the listeners, uh, this, this is a amazing story, but in the moment this was not amazing for me.
Speaker 1:It's traumatic right, it was really traumatic.
Speaker 2:And Rachel for what it's worth, was not helping one bit, Because she was like, wow, she can come like that. Have you ever made her squirt? And I was like no, and she just like laughed it off and, to be honest, I mean the rest of the night is really a blur. But it was just her and rachel just taking turns fucking ryan and I think at one point I asked nicole. I was like hey, you know, can I get back in on this? And she was like, to be honest, like there's no point in fucking you right now. You're you're not going to feel anything.
Speaker 2:Did you say that something? She said it in a nicer way, but she was like I'm, I'm probably not going to feel anything. Did you say that? Oh my God? She said it in a nicer way, but she was like I'm probably not going to feel it. And she did ask if I wanted to eat her out. And so I did eat her out and I ate Rachel out towards the end, wow, and I asked for a blowjob at the end, which I got from Nicole. But I mean, again, the damage was done. That was probably the most drunk. A blowjob at the end which I got from nicole, uh, but I mean again, the damage was done.
Speaker 1:that was probably the most drunk, lazy blowjob I've ever received. She was just doing a pity blowjob at that point, oh well, I needed the release, so I was thankful either way. But um yeah, so that was my welcome to the kako lifestyle moment yeah, I can see that as being very traumatic but also, like in hindsight, very hot yeah, it was again in hindsight very hot, very, very hot and uh, I mean, I don't tell people about this story.
Speaker 2:Obviously I keep the kak stuff to a kind of to my private life. But it's crazy, I harbored that memory for so long and it was a while before it turned into a hot memory yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:so so what has happened since then? Because I understand that that's not the only thing that's happened where you've had this kind of like ultimate rejection over BBC, like I feel like there's been other other instances where this has happened to you.
Speaker 2:It definitely was the first, but it wasn't the last. It's kind of weird. I mean, I don't know if it's a self fulfilling prophecy, but I just I guess I am into these kinds of women that tend to be the type to like black guys, and so, one way or another, a situation will always arise, at least in my experience, where that's put to the test.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's kind of funny because, it's true, like I've known you for a long time, you're, you've just such a great personality and like such an easygoing guy and funny and you get along with everybody and you know you're a good looking guy and you have these beautiful eyes and like such an easygoing guy and funny and you get along with everybody and you know you're a good looking guy and you have these beautiful eyes and like you, just you know there's no reason why you can't pull in these chicks who are that type and and you do you always seem to like lose out.
Speaker 1:And I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you, okay, sort of laughing at you. I'm laughing with you, okay, sort of laughing at you, but anyway, so I, I have heard these stories, and not just, like I said, not just from you, but from other guys out there who this happens to them, and or women. You know they are drawn in by all of those great qualities that you have, but, like, sexually, whether you want to admit it, you're just not on the same level as these guys, these black guys. So what happened? Give me, give me all the tea, like what happened.
Speaker 2:Let me close out that story with saying we did not last very long after that. That relationship ended probably a week after that incident and the reasoning was pretty poor. So I I can only assume what. What was the uh trigger? Oh, but I mean, you're right. I mean, look, I appreciate the compliments. Of course I I do try to be, uh, you know, a superstar for women in every way possible, but it's, it's kind of tough because you're right, like I think that's part of this. The reason that we become cucks is because maybe we we do have the personality and the looks and whatnot to get somebody you know attached to us, but then in the bedroom it's just, I mean, I would like to think I'm good in the bedroom, but it's just not the same level yeah, no, you can't compete with them, and that's the thing.
Speaker 1:Like I, I can only imagine that your ego would be constantly trying to fight that reality.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, very much. So I guess that'll that'll lead into where this conflict came up again this ego versus reality. So this was a couple of years ago, two years ago, three years ago. Um, I do, you know, I work out, I go to the gym. Back then I used to go to gym pretty often covid was kind of like a trigger for hey, don't be lazy, go and work out, I go to the gym. Back then I used to go to the gym. Pretty often COVID was kind of like a trigger for, hey, don't be lazy, go and work out and stay in shape. So I probably was in the best shape of my life, like just playing basketball, working out, playing volleyball, like all sports and activities, and you know we all had the time. So I noticed there was this new girl at the gym who was like smoking, she's like a mom and Venus, you've seen her.
Speaker 1:So I saw the picture I was like damn, she's hot.
Speaker 2:She's, she's very, very hot and she's she was super nice girl too. Um, I had talked to her a couple of times and and you know, just in passing, and it was cool and then I told one of my friends who was a trainer at the gym. Uh, I told him I was like, hey, uh, you know, do you know anything about her? Like, and he was like, oh yeah, she's a, she's a really cool chick. She's actually she applied to become a personal trainer here. If you want, I can like, like, you know, actually introduce you to her. And so I was like awesome, yeah, sign me up.
Speaker 2:And so I put my uh, you know, mike, magic, magic, mike touch to it and uh, we went on a couple dates super fun, and I think we were, we were like pretty into each other. And then one day we went to do like a workout together and the workout was great, uh. But we had met up earlier that week and uh, we kind of like we went out somewhere and we were making out in the car but she had to get home and I had to get home, so we really couldn't do much else. Also, it was kind of a public place, but our gym is kind of secluded. So after our workout I think we were both like pretty hot and you know, bothered and we're like, okay, let's jump in the backseat and let's you know the backseat of your car.
Speaker 2:Okay, uh, yeah and let's, let's have some fun. And so we were making out, and you know, again, we're both into it, it's, it was really steamy. I bet every single window was fogged up, uh, which probably was a good thing. Uh, nobody else noticed what was going on. But after, you know, we made out, I reached for my kind of like cubby where I keep my condoms and I had nothing left, uh.
Speaker 2:So now I'm thinking, oh, I'm going to go, like I might have to do this beer. And I haven't really spoken to her about the usual pre-sexual memo, right, but I was like, you know, let's not worry about it. And I was. I was like, let me, let me take my pants off and let's, let's do this. So first I took her shirt off and then after that I started pulling my pants down. Let's do this. So first I took her shirt off and then after that I started pulling my pants down and I knew something was up immediately, because she looked at it and gave me kind of like a like. She let out like a smirk, a smirk, giggle, and I was, you know, I wasn't paying too much mind to it, I was on fire at that point. And then she took it in two fingers on fire at that point, and then she took it in two fingers and I forget what she said, but she's like oh nice, it's better than oh cute.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I think? That's what she said, oh my God. And she said you know I like how clean you keep it, because I do try to keep it very clean down there, like manscaped right. Yeah, manscaped, very, very manscaped. If you don't own a Panasonic razor, you should get one for all those listening.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Very, very helpful. But she looked at it and she was like you know, oh cute, whatever. And again I didn't pay too much mind to it. I was just like you know, I'm ready to dive in here. And before she she gave me head, she was like, oh, you know what, I think I want to get eaten out first. And so I was like sure, let's, let's get into it. And I went down on her and I'm not trying to brag here, but I think my skills down there are pretty good.
Speaker 1:They should be.
Speaker 2:As you know, I have to make up for other things, yeah, but you know what I actually do more of like a love of the game kind of guy, right, I do it because I want to be good at it. I didn't do it to make want to be good at it. Um, I didn't do it to make up for lack of size, right, although it became more clear that it was a good thing that I was good at oral or the size would have been an even worse issue yeah so anyway, I went down on her.
Speaker 2:I definitely made her calm and she was pretty satisfied and she was pretty wet. So I was like yes, let's go. And then I, you know, leaned back and I was like okay, I just like kind of held my dick and I was like oh, uh, I don't have like a condom, is that okay with you? And she was like oh, don't worry, I have some. And then I was like okay, that's cool. I mean cool venus. Tell me, I mean cool Venus, tell me why and you know the story, but tell me why this girl literally only had Magnum XLs.
Speaker 1:Because that's all I have either.
Speaker 2:Have regular Magnums, maybe Magnum XLs only, have regular magnums, maybe magnum xls only. And now I'm like, oh shit, not again. Like like a flashback of that college experience went in my head and I was like no, no, no, you're just. You know, you're thinking too much, just let it be. And I was like, you know, still like I can fit into a magnum, okay. Um, I was like let's, let's give it a shot. Of course I didn't act timid with her.
Speaker 1:I was like oh, it'll fit, it's fine. You were all like, yeah, no problem, no problem, let's, let's do it.
Speaker 2:And uh, she's like, okay, and so she took it out. She rolled it on. Yeah, it was loose, definitely was loose. But condoms are like they're made to stretch, right, so they're, even though the big ones are still inherently a little bit smaller. Right, like just so that they stretch when they're on and give you that seal. But it was still loose and she was like oh, maybe you're just not hard enough for it to be tight. Let me like, jerk you off a bit and you'll probably get, you'll probably fill it out.
Speaker 2:I was like, okay, and so she started jerking and at first I was like, okay, this is good, but she jerked me off so fast and hard. I was like shocked. It was like if you've ever watched a you know porno where somebody's getting jerked off, you know at the very end, where they're like going hard and fast, and that was it from the jump, basically. And I came and she was still jerking off. She was still jerking it off and like it was a mess Cause now the cum is like cream because she's been jerking it off so much, and it's like drizzling down. And I was like, oh, hold on, hold on. I, I, I came and she was like, oh my God, that's too bad. I'm sure she was like oh my god, that's too bad.
Speaker 1:I'm sure she was so disappointed.
Speaker 2:And I was like, no, no, it's okay, it's fine, like usually, I would have lasted longer, but you were going really hard and fast. And she's like no, I was just trying to make it hard, my bad. And I was like, like it's okay. I was like, maybe, if you like, maybe let me clean it up and oh you're, you weren't giving up, you weren't giving up yeah, I wasn't giving up.
Speaker 2:I was like let me, let me clean it up. And, uh, maybe you could like suck it and then get it hard again, and then we could do this. And she was like uh, you know what I've? You know it's getting late again, uh, and we're all sweaty. Maybe let's try this another time. And she was like you know, I love the orgasm you gave me, though like I can't wait for that again. Um, so get that tongue ready, something like that she's right, cute, uh, and so yeah.
Speaker 2:So I pulled my pants up and that was kind of the end of that night and I do remember telling you about this, so you knew about this as it was happening.
Speaker 2:Yes, unraveling and I laughed, I laughed so much you laughed because at the time again, I wasn't thinking much about it, right? And then I was asking her you know, in consecutive times that we met we didn't go on another date per se, we would just hang out at the gym, yeah. And then I was asking her hey, you know, or I guess this was afterwards I was texting her and I was saying hey, you know, when are we gonna? Do you want to link up in the back seat again? And she kind of just like was like, uh, maybe some other time, like I think she said it was that time of the month, or like you know, she was just pushing it off. She's like oh, I'm kind of busy this week, maybe, you know, next week or the week after.
Speaker 2:And then I start seeing her working out with this jacked black dude which came out of nowhere and I had seen that guy in the gym before. He's you know whatever, he's probably a chill dude. But you see somebody working out with somebody else once, fine, whatever, twice. But when it starts becoming like, okay, every day I go to the gym, this girl is working out with this guy and she's not asking me to work out with her anymore, I'm like okay, what's going on? And then that's when I got the that text.
Speaker 2:It was something like hey, uh, do you remember that night when you ate me out? And I was like yeah, I was like when, like are you, if you're into a repeat, like are you going to do it again? And she was like no, I was just talking with Mike, don't worry. I didn't say you know your name or anything like that. Of course, that guy's name is Mike. And she was like I have a question for you. Like you said you didn't have any condoms Like what condoms do you usually wear? And this is a weird question to ask anybody. Why would you ask like what condoms do you usually wear? And this is a weird question to ask anybody, right?
Speaker 2:why would you ask like, what condoms do you usually wear? And so I was like oh, I just wear like these. I wear like trojan ultra lubricated, yada, yada blah. I gave her the full legal name, uh, so to speak, and she was like oh, okay, she was like um, I was just wondering, because I mean no offense, like the, the magnums that I have, the, the ones that I had, uh, she didn't even call them. I just said the condoms that I had, they don't really fit mike they're too small, yeah, they're too small for him and they're magnum excels.
Speaker 2:And now I'm putting two and two together and I'm like, wait a second. She's telling me one that she fucked this guy and two that they're like, like he's too big for it too. I'm like what is going on? Like what is wrong with people? Before you know, probably people are thinking what kind of like seductress is this woman? Like we were very open with each other I try to keep things very open so I guess she was comfortable with, yeah, telling me that kind of stuff, and I I don't think we were not exclusive, so it wasn't something like oh, you know, you shouldn't be doing that. We're just like oh, we were hooking up. And then she's like yeah, I was just trying to figure out, like, like, how big he is, because, like, if those didn't fit you and they fit, they don't fit him for the other reason, like. And then she was just like wait, how she?
Speaker 2:wants you to spell it out and I was like what, why are you asking me this? And no, she's like no, seriously. And again, I'm paraphrasing this whole text message shot. I mean, uh, I don't want to expose it to everybody, but you know again, venus, you've seen it.
Speaker 2:She said something along the lines of I, I just like he's like the biggest I've ever seen and I'm just like curious as to how big he is and like, if you know, then maybe I can like compare it or like figure it out. And I told her like I was like okay, this is back when you know, I was still like a1, confident in my dick. I said you know, I'm six inches, right, the guy is not going to say that. She literally clapped back and said you are not six inches. And I was shocked and I was like yeah, I am. She was like no, you're not. She's like you're probably.
Speaker 2:Like I was thinking four. And I was like are you kidding? Like four is like that small? I was like I'm not small. And then she was like this is like dreadful. She's like and oh, now, jumping back a little bit, I did tell you afterwards. I was like do you think she knew what she was doing with the jerking off, like, why did she do it like that? And I think at the time you were like, oh no, she probably just saw some stupid thing in porn and that's why she did that. And then she was like don't play yourself. You didn't even fit the condom that we used the other day, and why do you think I jerked you off so fast?
Speaker 1:I don't know the truth comes out and I was like what?
Speaker 2:and I remember again, I ran straight to you and I was like venus, what the fuck is going on right now? And she was like yeah, I, you know, I I had to jerk you off super hard because I was not, like you didn't even fit the condom, like you're not big, like, and I'm used to bigger dicks, and I don't know. That was just like a roller coaster of emotions right there. You know what? I have the messages here. Let me let me do a quick look up.
Speaker 1:I can tell you exactly what happened what I love so much about this story is that during that time I know you were really in denial of your size. You did argue quite a bit that you were six inches. You spent days arguing with her about your dick size. Okay, and it was fascinating to me because I could see this tug of war that reality versus your ego was doing and I was just like why are you still arguing this with her? This girl knows what your size is.
Speaker 2:I guess, like you know, you got to fight to the death as a man, so I was giving it my all, but I guess I was doing more damage than good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because she admitted that you were really good at eating pussy and you gave her really great orgasm. So I guess it's just the death of penetration, the death of that, the idea of that you're a champion in the penetration part, piv, sex part, that was difficult for you. It's like mourning the loss of that side of your sexuality I think so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1:That's a good, that's a very educated way of putting it well, it's fascinating to me because I've been trying to understand all of this that you're, that's happening to you and how it's affecting you and like your behavior and stuff like this is. You are not unique in this. This is how these, like I said, these formative experiences happen with guys so often. Um, so, tell me so. So tell me about these text messages. What exactly did she say?
Speaker 2:okay, um, oh yeah. So so let me like kind of read it off. She was like hey, like I have like a totally random question for you. Do you remember that night in the car at the gym? Yeah, I had to blah, uh, and I said oh yeah. I said hi, yeah, that was a good time. Why do you ask? And she's like right, uh. And I was like I hope that's a good right. She's like sort of uh, oh yeah, she said you were decent at going down. I'll give you that. But I'm so sorry to bring this up. Remember how the condoms I had didn't fit there?
Speaker 1:it goes to you know me spiraling.
Speaker 2:And I was like I don't remember them not fitting. I fit those before and she's like might be real, it legit looked baggy, I'm sorry. And she was like don't be upset, not everyone is big. And then I was like no, it didn't, that's how it's supposed to look. I'm glad you're finding this, you know, entertaining, because she was laughing and she's like it's okay. Were you gymming today? The weather is so bad, I didn't go and she's like it's okay. Were you, jimmy, today? The weather is so bad, I didn't go.
Speaker 2:And she's like literally stop. I had to grip your dick so hard just to make sure it didn't slide off. You barely fit. And she's like I guess that's kind of what like relates to what I want to ask. And I was like well, I guess it was probably a little loose because it was an XL and I can fit the regular ones. But yeah, what are you asking for?
Speaker 2:She's like oh my God, liar. No, you don't. That's why you made that face when I took them out. She's like why do you think it was such a quick handjob? I was holding it so tight and going faster because it was sliding so much. Oh gosh, I'm sorry, I just don't see why you'd argue that. See, there you go.
Speaker 2:You were in total denial. I was in full denial, yeah, and she's like anyway. So I guess size is kind of important here, because the guy I'm seeing right now doesn't actually fit in those and she's like which? Like wow. But also I was curious to know how big you are, because you were the last one I did anything with. So then of course, me texts back saying sorry, you're saying I'm small. I don't get it. Why do you need to know that? I'm so confused. I thought we had a good night and she's like, yeah, kind of sorry, but but it's okay. The bud don't call me buddy guy Like that was so mean. She's like we did have a good time. Like I said, you ate it really good. You're just not. What I'm used to is all. Why do you think we didn't have sex in the car? I'm sorry I probably sound so mean, but she's like how big are you? Four or five?
Speaker 1:yeah. So let me just say that mike it. It goes to show that, like you are and not a like you're a safe person for her to tell you these honest things about. Because, as a woman, I will tell you that telling a guy that he's small, that his dick is small even though all these people listening right now who get so turned on by this whole idea of like SPH stuff let's be real.
Speaker 1:As a woman, if you tell a guy or hint to a guy that his dick is small or somebody else is bigger, that is a dangerous thing to do, could turn around and beat the fuck out of you, hit you, turn into a stalker, try to ruin your life. Like this is a dangerous thing for women to do, to actually say this to a guy. So the fact that she was able to say it to you, even though she was trying to be gentle about it, but also direct and firm about it, honest about it as well but the fact that she felt okay to talk to you about this, even though you guys didn't really know each other all that well, I think it just goes to show that, like you, are a safe person to have that conversation with, even though you're denying it so much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll fight to death, but you know.
Speaker 2:I will never, I will never be that kind of person and I again, I think that's like a that you hit it on the head. I think that's that kind of person and I, I again, I think that's like a that you hit it on the head. I think that's a big issue nowadays, Cause I mean, we're talking about big size here, which is very, you know, sensitive. But it could be anything like just the way somebody looks, or just denying somebody you know an advancement. Yeah, it caused a woman to be in a hard spot. So I definitely try to make it as safe a space as possible, but apparently it was too safe a space for her.
Speaker 1:No, it was good, because, like, what did you learn from that? I mean, this was an experience in time where you had to really accept, at least acknowledge, that size was an issue for her and that you were lacking in that department, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, basically I mean.
Speaker 1:Did it make you even more turned on by interracial porn after that?
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, like I said, of course, I mean we haven't even gotten to the elephant in the room where I mentioned it briefly, but she started, you know, fucking this black guy. So it's once again some big shredded black dude that yeah takes. You know what I thought would be mine yeah um rejected rejected.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I mean just the directness of it, like like I would tell people I'm, you know, six, five, six, whatever. And she's like no, you're not. And I think at one point it was like let me prove it to you. And I sent her a picture of it because I was so furious. I sent her a picture of it next to a ruler and she's like literally like pressing it into your foreskin, like it's clear, you're like four inches, and that was like a very I don't know.
Speaker 1:It was a very spiraling moment for me that's so funny because, like I have had and I've said this before on the show but it's so funny because, like I have been with black guys, lots of black guys before, where I've asked them like what's your size and your dick size? And they're like oh, I don't know, I've never measured it. And then I have had so many white guys who were like I'm exactly 6.12.
Speaker 2:I am so funny, so true, it's so true I mean, if you're arguing about points like 0.1, 0.2, you're, you're, you already lost this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this game and one day I measured it and I was 0.3 bigger.
Speaker 2:So oh, my god yeah I learned my lesson with that. Um, yeah, and of course to your point. She said that the new guy was he didn't even know how big he was. He was just exactly and I do remember so vividly at some point, like when I was showing you her and I was like oh, this is what happened. And you were like Mike, her body is literally made for black guys.
Speaker 1:You remember that right, Because that's so true. These women who you pick up, who you pull in because, like I said, you got all this going for you. These are women who have that body that black guys just fucking love, like built for black as a thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're all like. I mean, I have a thing for you know, people who are in shape and they're all, like you know, athletic in some regard. Have the right curves in the right places, yeah definitely, and good looking faces too, I mean, I think a face goes a long way, oh so you compete with these black guys for the same women right and yet it's.
Speaker 2:You're now in your late 20s and now you're starting to realize that, like you cannot compete in the the bedroom in the same way that you thought you could, yeah, basically that's tough yeah, it's a tough pill to swallow and, again, I'm sure that every single woman who is built like this is has been exposed to this, but for some reason, when they meet me, their exposure to BBC is not very far away. It's not any of my doing, by the way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so something else happened. That's not the last story. Something else happened, right? Yeah, funny enough, that's not the last story.
Speaker 2:Something else happened right, like, yeah, I mean, let me let me yeah, let me close that one out with you. Know, we, like you said, we argued for a couple of days and she was just like she kind of just put me in my place and said no, but, but she was still so friendly about it, Like she was still inviting me to hang out and then work out with them, which was interesting. But I know you had mentioned at one point you were like oh, why don't you try and introduce them to this kind of aspect? But yeah, I don't think they were buying any of that. One thing I have learned is that a c-holdress is like a very rare being. Yeah, because most women, if they find this big, jacked, good-looking dude with a huge dick, they'd just rather be with them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I get that because I think that there's this idea that it's one or the other.
Speaker 2:Yeah this idea that it's one or the other and not very many women are even unaware of the fact that you can actually have it all right.
Speaker 1:I agree, I definitely agree and that's what I kind of what I was trying to explain to you and for anybody listening right now who's going through something similar, which is probably a lot of you. Um, just this is why I do what I do. This is the reason why I started blogging about cuckolding. It's the reason why I started podcasting about cuckolding and the reason why I talk about it so much is because I really want women to know that you can have it all.
Speaker 1:You don't have to have just one thing in your life, as when it comes to pleasure and romance and whatever. Sure, there's other options like poly and stuff like that. But when it comes to being a cuckoldress or a hot wife, it really is great because you can have all that amazing sexual experience with the big guys. If you're a size queen, with the black guys, if you just absolutely love and adore the black men in your life, and you can still have that loving, adoring, great personality, great, awesome person, husband who is happy to stay monogamous and is really good at eating pussy. You can have all of that at the same time. You can have it all, which feels like having your cake and and eating it too. But that's why I said, maybe just fucking say that to her, like just put it out there, just be like okay, well, you know I'm okay with you, you know still sleeping with these guys like I'm good I think what the the thing is.
Speaker 2:It's such a absurd like idea to some people yeah, especially people are especially younger women, um, and again, like these are women in their early 20s, you know, mid-20s, and so I think for some of them, the idea of settling down hasn't even really, uh, sat in their head. So that's why they're like, oh, I don't even care about the, you know the personality of this guy going away, like I can still be friends with him, whatever.
Speaker 2:But their minds don't think, oh, I can have his personality and this guy's sex yeah this guy's got a good enough personality and and the sex is amazing, so let me just go this route yeah, anyway.
Speaker 1:So what happened? So is that it's like after that saga, what? What happened after that?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 2:So I mean, kind of the fallout of that was like again, like I said, I've been. She actually hit me up kind of recently to work out and I didn't. I don't know if they're still, you know, seeing each other. I haven't been to that gym in a while. Uh, I'll probably have an update for you at something. So we'll see tbd.
Speaker 2:Um, I actually met a girl through a mutual friend that we had and she was very, very, very cool. She lived in a different state though, so I had to fly out just to see her, but I have family in that state, so flying out there is not too bad. Um, and so we had, you know, met. When I flew out once just to, I was just hanging out with them and, you know, we kind of hit it off and things were exceptionally good because she was the same religion as me, which is like a big thing, and she's gorgeous and really fun. So we met a couple times, uh, during that first trip, and then I went on a couple dates with her other times. I visited that, uh, that city and it was amazing, but we didn't have sex or we didn't do any of that, it was just hanging out. Um, the. The last time we went, we like really had a good, like we made out and all that stuff. And in that last visit that I had with her, which was probably, she came back to my hotel room with me and so I'm like, okay, sealed, like let's get it. And, funny enough, like again we started with and maybe this was me like thinking, overthinking or like pre-planning in my head subconsciously but I made sure to take care of her first, right, I was like, okay, let me eat you out, let me. So I did, and she enjoyed it. It was great.
Speaker 2:But this time, when I took it out, uh, she was just like, oh, I'm sorry. And I was like what she's like? She, no, I can't, I'm sorry. And again for the listeners, like there are micro penises. I'm not a micro penis, right, I am small, but I am no micro penis.
Speaker 2:So to hear those words, I was like what are you talking about? Like, are you kidding me? And she was like yeah, i'm'm just like, like used to a lot more. And I like she straight up just said like it's not going to work with me, like it, it's not worth it. And I was like oh, is there anything else we can do. And she's like, oh, you could eat me out again, um, and I was like, okay, cool. And I was like, can I get you know you're okay with giving me a head? And she was like, okay, cool, and I was like, can I get you know you're okay with giving me a head? And she was like, yeah, that's fine, I could do that.
Speaker 2:And I ended up eating her out for like probably like an hour, like it was a long session, and then she said she was like so gassed from the orgasms that she didn't want to give me head. Yeah, so I was like, okay, fuck, great, but she did jerk me off, and that that happened, um, and then she left. I mean, we, we talked for a little bit and yada, yada, blah, and then she left, and then I it's weird, because I didn't really talk to her much after that. We did talk like the next day and sheada, yada, blah, and then she left, and then I it's weird, because I didn't really talk to her much after that. We did talk like the next day and she was like, oh, when are you flying out this? That blah, blah, blah. But once I got back, she was very, very ghost and again.
Speaker 2:I met her through a mutual friend and so I asked her you know, hey has uh I'm going to call her Jane, right? Has Jane told you anything? And our mutual friend was like no, not really, I didn't know. You guys were still seeing each other because she had told me that she was like flying out to some NFL game to meet this player. That like was in her DMs, and this is before I even met her the the last time, right? So this is between, let's say it's between, our third and fourth like like date or meetup. She's saying after that third one, uh, she was getting like flown out, which is like mind-blowing to me it's happening again this is like and look.
Speaker 2:I mean I might plug this a little bit later, but I have a bunch of side businesses.
Speaker 2:But when I one of the things that I do is kind of managing like only fans profiles and like social media influencers profiles, especially like fitness influencers and so like I have seen personally the dms that some people get and I mean it's, it's definitely like if you're popular and you look good, you will get these dms from pro athletes. But it's unexpected that a lot of these people, or the, the women who get these dms, they actually ignore them. Maybe they have some code or something, but they they ignore them. Maybe they'll like kind of interact a little bit, but they generally don't go through with it. So like, for me now I'm like what the fuck? Like like somebody's actually doing this like and so, yes, she was apparently seeing this and like I won't name any names, but apparently she was seeing this one player or two players and you know, my mutual friend sends me like pictures of that of her like at all these arenas in like the VIP areas and I'm like what the heck?
Speaker 1:Oh no.
Speaker 2:And this is between again us meeting. So the last time we met she had already done whatever she did and I mean I did ask that friend. I was afraid to ask her if she had told her anything recently and I haven't texted her.
Speaker 2:I mean again, I told you what happened and I haven't texted her. I mean again, I told you what happened and I haven't texted her since. But that friend did tell me, or they did confirm to me, that she was like sleeping with them, of course. So it's a little bit worse than just like she was, like she had slept with like multiple at the same time.
Speaker 1:That's so awesome. Yeah, multiple at the same time that's so awesome. Um yeah, oh. So has it like solidified for you now this, uh, this whole thing? These are three very critical experiences critical is a great word has it solidified things for you now, like how has this really changed Other than now, like your love for interracial porn is off the charts? But how has it changed things for you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I think after the first time it was kind of like the introduction, like hey, this is like a thing right, I didn't even know it was a real thing until that point and I enjoyed the ideas and the concepts, I guess, over time, but I didn't really experience because no one offered that kind of experience to me until the gym girl. And so after that I definitely like I mean again, I've said this a couple of times in this interview but I've confided that information with you and you kind of said, hey, this is like you're like blossoming, like you're learning that this exists.
Speaker 2:And I think the second experience really like that was like the head butting of me and and my reality I guess which was tough, but uh, and I think still like, I think that's part of like being a cook, like it is tough and it's like I would say, like I'm like an egotistical cook, like you got to put me in my place, but yeah, so that really formed at least an understanding of that internal battle.
Speaker 1:And then the last experience is just like a yeah, like just some sugar on the top, in case you forgot. Yeah, for a lot of the guys. And there's a blog on my, on my website, um, the goddess worshiper blog, which is amazing and he talks about how, in the beginning, when he realized the sense of defeat to black guys sexually, he was, he was like kind of pissed off and angry about it, and I've heard so many other guys have the same reaction, where they just fight it. They're like no, that's, it's not going to be like that, and that kind of denial, that anger and that disbelief and like the suspension of reality, basically, um reaction which is common when you're grieving the loss of something.
Speaker 1:So that's why I said you're grieving the loss of the idea that this is part of your sexual identity, is your ability to satisfy a woman with your dick and just your dick? Obviously that's not true, because you do have other skills. We know that you're really good at eating pussy. But grieving the loss of that idea, that expectation, um, and understanding like what are the consequences of that? I can understand why so many guys have such a a very kind of aggressive reaction in the beginning, but the true beauty is in acceptance afterwards, when you realize, like okay, like I may not have the biggest dick, I may not be able to compete with these guys who do Um, but I can give a woman all of everything else in different ways and, like I said before, like that's fucking amazing when you can offer a woman a kind of relationship where she can have her cake and eat it too and have all of that stuff. Offer a woman a kind of relationship where she can have her cake and eat it too and have all of that stuff.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. That gives you more worth as a partner than a big dick 100.
Speaker 1:I know some guys won't understand that. What do you mean? A big dick is everything, of course. I'm like no, no, no, it's not so it definitely isn't.
Speaker 2:Uh, I can, I can tell you that, uh, it isn't, but it certainly does help.
Speaker 1:It helps in a lot of ways. But it's funny because, along with having a big dick, these guys have what I what a lot of people call big dick energy, and with that comes a real sense of calm, confidence, of like sexual like, no sexual insecurity or anything like that Like and that translates into sexual energy. So, yes, like, having a big dick does come across different, even for women who haven't seen his dick yet. You can pick up on it. But so that part, yeah, I get it. It kind of gives you an advantage for these guys who've never had to measure themselves. Why did they never had to measure themselves? Because they never had to worry about that shit like ever.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 2:It's actually funny that you mentioned that. I mean it's going to I'm just going to sprinkle some more about the that you mentioned, that I I mean it's gonna I'm just gonna sprinkle some more about the of that topic in that first experience, right like I said, um, that guy ryan, like we were chill, we were literally playing pool before that incident happened, but when our pants came down, the switch that flipped in his head, like it was. Like he turned out of like that friendly person into just like a cold-blooded killer that's how I would put it and like he wasn't talking to me, he barely acknowledged my existence. At that point I was just kind of in the way and he was like fully, just like owning the moment with these two girls, which I think that's what they're really good at and that might be, you know, part of kind of the allure yes, I think so because, um, there's something that's not said in words but is said in like a, the feeling of of the situation that women pick up on, and it's hard to ignore that.
Speaker 1:I don't feel so bad for you. You were totally tossed aside in that situation but, like I said, a cuck was born there.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was a formative moment for you yep, I I said, whenever I talk about it I always say like I got out of it basically.
Speaker 1:Yeah, out of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and in a very natural way, which is crazy. But yeah, I love these stories so much. I appreciate you sharing these stories. I know it was not easy. I know that this is literal trauma for you, not easy for you to have gone through them and not easy for you to have processed everything afterwards. However, just like so many guys do who are into interracial, who are into cuckolding this is from what I understand I'll never know for sure, because I don't go through this but turning something that is traumatic or uncomfortable or just unwanted into something that, flipping that into something that is sexy and a turn on, and even though it's still uncomfortable and it's still not nice, it's really hot. So I think it's fucking fascinating that you were able to do that, to flip all of that and, even though it was very difficult and it was horrible, in some ways still made you a pretty amazing cuck who is in love with interracial.
Speaker 2:It's like a roller coaster. Right as you're going up the roller coaster, you're like this is horrible, this is horrible, I'm going to die, I'm going to die. And you go down the hill and maybe you get off the ride and you're like this is horrible, this is horrible, I'm going to die, I'm going to die.
Speaker 1:And then you go down the hill and maybe you get off the ride and you're like wait a second, let's do that again. Yeah, yes, exactly, but you get, you gotta be brave enough to sit on the roller coaster, yeah, and that's where a lot of people are not. So I really appreciate you sharing this story. I have had so many great laughs over these stories over the years with you, so thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 2:You're welcome, I'm happy. I'm happy I could provide some laughs.
Speaker 1:Well, we're almost out of time, but I wanted to wrap things up before I do. Mike, there was something that you mentioned before about a service that you offer. Something like that Did you want to?
Speaker 2:mention about that. Yeah, so I, like I said earlier, I actually work with influencers and you know only fans models, let's say, in quotes, on with helping them grow their you know accounts, with helping them, you know, reach a larger audience. I've worked with a couple of notable influencers and um creators alike. Um, that you guys have definitely heard of Um, so I will leave my contact information with Venus. Um, if anybody wants or is interested in hearing more about it, I'm happy to provide some services.
Speaker 1:Great. Yes, I will put that in the description notes for today's episode. Again, thank you so much, mike, for sharing your stories, for being a guest on the show. It's been awesome.
Speaker 2:Thanks, Venus.
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