The Venus Cuckoldress Podcast
The Venus Cuckoldress Podcast
The Hottest Real Life Cuckolding Stories!
Becca and Drew share their 29-year journey from teenage sweethearts to a cuckolding couple, revealing how they've maintained a passionate relationship by embracing sexual exploration and open communication.
• Met as teenagers and knew early on they were into "more than just vanilla sex"
• Discovered their interest in cuckolding after a teenage incident where Drew was aroused by seeing hickeys another man had left on Becca
• Experienced their first spontaneous cuckolding encounter in a Jeep parking lot with friends watching outside
• Met their most memorable bull online who understood the psychology of everyone's roles and set a high standard
• Learning to overcome shame and judgment from others while strengthening their relationship
• Being in the lifestyle has made them both better lovers to each other
• Communication and aftercare are essential to their success
• Advice for women: do self-work to destroy societal conditioning about female sexuality
Join the Queens Quarters community on venuscuckoldress.com for a free live Q&A session on May 13th at 1pm Pacific/4pm Eastern time.
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Speaker 2:I pull up and she opens the back door to the Jeep and they both get in the back and she says this is my friend, joe, I'm going to suck his dick. And he started fucking her and I was like, oh my God, this is really happening and it was. It was incredible. And then at one point she she got back onto her back in the back seat. And I'm still in the front seat with my phone, with the flashlight just staring. And then in this dark jeep and it's a dark parking lot around us, with the flashlight, yeah, just just staring and we've had no conversation, no like, is this okay?
Speaker 3:not okay. But we did keep making eye contact with each other just to kind of like channel in, like I'm good, are you good Love you.
Speaker 2:So the guy Joe, he says to me, he says he's playing with her pussy. He says, bring this flashlight over here. I want to, I want to see this. So I shine the flashlight. He's playing with her pussy and she squirts everywhere and she's only done that once or twice before. She does it all the time now. But you know, we had to learn how. And he makes her squirt and I yell oh, my fucking gosh. You squirted everywhere and I actually heard clapping and cheering, and that's when I realized the group outside was watching.
Speaker 2:He just put both of his feet on the door of my Jeep and pushed into her as hard as he could and just came. Oh, wow, she loved it and I loved it and we didn't say anything. We just both kind of looked at each other real, you know, like whoa and uh, you know, um, he asked us a question that set off a kink for us, um, that we probably shouldn't have done, but we did anyway. Um, but he, he asked us. He said she's not gonna get pregnant, is she? And it made us both start thinking and we both thought, shit, she is ovulating Maybe, or shit.
Speaker 1:This is the Venus Cuckoldris Podcast A place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious, for the passionate and for the sexually empowered woman who wants it all. Let's go. Welcome to the show. I'm your host, venus. Thanks for joining me today. I have a show for you. This is so much fun, this one.
Speaker 1:This couple, becca and Drew, are going to join me on the show to talk about their stories, their adventures, stories, their adventures and they are a swinging slash cuckolding couple. And what a story it is. It's just fascinating. You're going to love it. They are going to share some very hot stories and I mean like hot. You can tell by my voice a few times in this episode that I was excited. I was turned on by their stories of their experiences. It's very memorable. I would definitely not recommend that you listen to this episode in a public place for the guys anyway because you're probably going to pop a boner. Just warning you right now. Trigger warning. This is a boner episode, but let me tell you there's also some really good things to learn about their story, about the advice that they have for others and what it's been like for them. I think you're going to walk away with not just a boner but actually, having learned a lot from them, it's a great, great story. So we're going to jump into that.
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Speaker 3:Hello, nice to be here with you all.
Speaker 2:Hi, how are you?
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh. Okay, let's jump in. You guys have been married together a long time. I think you guys met when you were really, really young right, yes. How old were you?
Speaker 2:I was 16 and she was 14.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, so was that your first ever relationship. I'm assuming it was right, it was my first.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had a brief one before that. It lasted about a year long. Taught me everything that you shouldn't do in a relationship.
Speaker 1:So how long have you guys been together? Now it's 30 plus years, 29 years, 29. Okay, it's a long time. And so at what point did you get into like the kinky stuff or bringing that up? Was it right away? Were you forthcoming about that, this part right away?
Speaker 2:we were pretty forthcoming about how kinky we were right away. Like, uh, one of the first games we played was, uh, her first job, um, at the pizza place. Um, her first day she came home with a pizza and played delivery girl. You know, we were just, we're just teenagers, um, you know. So we, we knew we were into more than just playing vanilla sex pretty early on.
Speaker 3:But I will say we didn't even do it right away. I did make him wait two years. Really, that never happened again. We've never been not having sex since then. But yeah, wow, and we made out and stuff. My mom used to tell me making out and all the foreplay stuff is never as good as it is before you have sex. So I felt like I really wanted to embrace that and, honestly, that like kind of changed our dynamic, because we worked so hard for so long at foreplay that it's something we've never stopped doing. Wow, it's just a habit. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, that's fascinating, Okay, and then okay. Oh wow, that's fascinating, Okay, Um and then okay. So how did cuckolding come into the whole dynamic.
Speaker 2:There was an unfortunate incident when we were teenagers where I made a mistake and I was making out with another girl, um, who happened to have her name Um, and I thought that was amusing, cause I was a child and uh, so I I went to work that night and, uh, she made out with my best friend, um, all night long.
Speaker 3:Revenge.
Speaker 2:She had. You know, when I, when I got home, she had hickeys all over her breasts and things like that, and uh so we were like making up, we were having a conversation, like saying I'm sorry I did this, this.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry you did this, you hurt me. And then I was like, well, you're not going to be able to forgive this and I showed him my boobs and they were covered in hickeys.
Speaker 1:What was the reaction? Like?
Speaker 2:Well, it's kind of funny because I had this same type of incident happen with my first girlfriend and that reaction I reacted how everyone was supposed to. You know, I got mad and angry and threw stuff. But this time it was different. I reacted how I wanted to react, which was to pull her on my lap and suck the hickeys on her titties, lap and suck the hickeys on her titties, and I think that's when we both realized that. That's when we both realized that we were into that. We didn't even know what it was called. There wasn't even a name for it yet I don't think no way yeah I was just going to ask you that.
Speaker 1:Did you know what that was?
Speaker 2:Not at all no.
Speaker 3:This was pre-internet days. It was the late 90s, I mean. Aol was coming out, but we didn't know anything yet. You only had actual pornos on VCRs to watch. So totally clueless, but also very any reservations around doing something like or incorporating that into your relationship?
Speaker 1:I just asked, because some women are really like hung up over religion and stuff like that or slut shaming kind of stuff. Did you have anything, any feelings like that?
Speaker 3:I did for a while for sure, same with even maintaining my virginity for so long. Did for a while for sure, same with even maintaining my virginity for so long. Like the moral high ground comes into play. So I think it definitely got. It progressed gradually over the years, you know, step by step and moment by moment, and and like the liberating and free part of it really came for me when I was completely secure in my relationship and knowing that I am always safe and loved and valued and that's the most important thing. So fucking is fucking right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, there's a. There's a line there, right you can? You know the difference there Absolutely. So what did it feel like for you, Drew? You didn't know this was a thing you're, she was, she was going. You guys were going down this road together. What did it feel like for you to go through that?
Speaker 2:I loved it, um, everything we did, all the little experiences we had um, because, like, in between, we actually didn't start cuck holding until, like I think it was like nine years ago when it actually started with uh. You know, before that we had, um what we call you know, there's just regular swinging incidents here and there with other people, um, but I noticed, uh, even when we would have uh, we had a couple that we were friends with and we would play with them all the time and I I just I noticed that I enjoyed watching her more than I enjoyed playing at you know, certain points, um, not that I don't enjoy playing, but and then you know, um, and then we had, uh, a few different guys come over um to the house, um, here and there. I was in the air force, so she saw a coworker of mine when she was bringing me lunch one day and she just jokingly said bring him home. And I did.
Speaker 1:How did you say that to your coworker? Were you not like scared or nervous? I was nervous as hell.
Speaker 2:But we were in our young 20s and you know we talked about sex all the time anyway, and I pulled him aside. And I know we talked about sex all the time anyway. And I pulled him aside and I said, hey, my wife thought you were cute, Want to come home and join us? And he thought about it for a minute. He went yeah, yeah, I do.
Speaker 1:That was that Because you're kind of I don't want to say outing yourself by saying that to your co-worker, but now knowing that you are in an open relationship with some people are really taboo, like that's so taboo for them right.
Speaker 2:Definitely In the Air Force. It's pretty common for swingers to be there. Oh, really. Yeah, it's more of an accepted community. I don't know why. Yeah, it's more of an accepted community. I don't know why, but there was a lot of swingers in the military that we didn't swing with any of them. We just talked to them and observed what they were doing and, you know, it brought more ideas into our brains and got the wheels turning.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, that's what happens is, once you start to go down that road, there's so much to learn about it. There's so much out there. That is, you know, so many blogs and forums and groups and everything like that. But, becca, what was it like for you when you guys were swinging and he is sleeping with other women? Were you like you, were good with that, like you?
Speaker 3:like that was fun or did you hate it? Yeah, yeah, I liked it a lot. I always would try to like, put myself in the mindset of, like this is real life porn. Like how cool is that to like witness and see that stuff. And then, as time goes on and more you know close in our relationship we are. I love him so much that, like, even if I'm not physically in the moment, being pleased, watching him be that happy and excited and having fun in that experience is so much fun in and of itself. I know he feels that way too. So the jealousy, of course it's got to be there a little bit, but also like just being so confident in who we are with each other. Like we've had such amazing experiences and we still tell each other constantly but nobody's like you, you know, nobody's got that. So yeah, Wow.
Speaker 1:At what point, though, did you figure out that you wanted to actually find an actual bull, like somebody who understood cuckolding?
Speaker 2:So we were at a point in our marriage where we were talking about it and you know, fantasizing about it, and she would tell me you know this person's hot, or this person's hot, or you know, and tease me about it, but she wasn't really. I don't think she was ever really going to act on it. Um, and then her best friend found out that it was a fetish of mine and she how did she find out?
Speaker 2:Um, they, they went to Las Vegas on a trip and, uh, my wife had taken some pictures with you know, they got those hot strippers there on the strip you take the pictures with. Um, she took a bunch of pictures with them and sent them to me and that sparked questions and that answered all the questions and she couldn't believe it. So every time they went out for months she pounded my wife what about that guy? What about that guy? What about that guy? So one night they're at a, they're out on girls night and there was a guy dancing and dancing really well, and becca was like damn, I like him, and her best friend went over and got him, brought him to the table and it started there.
Speaker 2:I got a message that just said my biff told some guy, I think he's hot now he won't go away. And and then about, and then about an hour and a half later I got a. I got a text message. It was a picture of her kissing him on the cheek. Okay, it just progressed from there. Um, you know I'm at home, you know, trying to trying to be good and not be on my phone bothering people you know, and, uh, I get a.
Speaker 2:I get a phone call. It's like 10 30 at night. I get a phone call and she says she says to me she goes um, she doesn't even say hello, she just says hey, what's that called when somebody fucks your wife? I said it's called cuckold and she yells it's called cuckold and just hangs the phone up. So clearly they were already having this conversation. So later it was like maybe one, 30 in the morning, um, I got a phone call from her friend not even her, from her best friend and she was also out with a group of other friends from where we work and her sister, so it was like a big group of people that all witnessed this.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:So I got a phone call from her friend that said you know, hey, we're eating tacos, come get us. So I knew where that is. So I made my way to the taco place and when I got there she was standing. The whole group is standing around in a circle. They're all having a good time, you know, laughing, being drunk. I pull up and she's standing with him and they have their arms around each other and I pull up and she opens the back door to the jeep and they both get in the back and she says this is my friend, joe, I'm gonna suck his dick.
Speaker 2:And I just pulled up to the darkest parking spot in the thing and she was already going to work and I just kind of sat there watching, kind of mesmerized, really didn't process the feelings at the moment. I was just like, wow, this is happening. And it just progressed from there where she just just, I guess, got sick of blowing him and turned around. He, he started fucking her and I was like, oh my god, this is really happening and it was this. It was incredible. And then at one point she, she got back onto her back in the back seat. And I'm still in the front seat with my phone, with the flashlight just staring, and then in this dark jeep and it's a dark parking lot around us with the flashlight yeah, just just staring and we've had no conversation, no like, is this okay?
Speaker 3:not okay. But we did keep making eye contact with each other just to kind of like channel in like I'm good, are you good, love you. Yeah, right, say go you.
Speaker 2:So the guy, joe, he says to me, he says he's playing with her pussy. He says, bring this flashlight over here. I want to, I want to see this. So I signed the flashlight and he's playing with her pussy and she squirts everywhere and she'd only done that once or twice before. She does that all the time now. But you know, we had to learn how. And he makes her squirt and I yelled oh, my fucking god. She squirted everywhere and I actually heard clapping and cheering and that's when I realized the group outside was watching like watching the car move.
Speaker 3:It was dark. They couldn't see inside besides your flash windows and stuff.
Speaker 2:But they, they all know what's going on. They see the jeep moving, half of the group are strangers from inside the taco shop. The whole scene is wild. And he climbs back on top of her and starts fucking her again and she's she's moaning and coming and I'm mesmerized. I, you know, I look down. I'm actually leaking pre-cum through my sweats, which I don't do. You know what I mean. I'm like this is insane.
Speaker 2:And then what he did was this this is the part that really got me. He didn't ask, he didn't say anything, got me. He didn't ask, he didn't say anything. He just put both of his feet on the door of my Jeep and pushed into her as hard as he could and just came. Oh, wow, she loved it and I loved it, and we didn't say anything.
Speaker 2:We just both kind of looked at each other, real like whoa and I had and, um, I had a, I had some shop towels in my jeep and he, he grabbed those and was wiping himself up and she just pulled her underwear up, didn't say anything, and uh, I kind of knew what she was doing at that point, was like, okay, all right. And uh, you know, um, he asked us a question that set off a kink for us that we probably shouldn't have done, but we did anyway. But he asked us. He said she's not going to get pregnant, is she? And it made us both start thinking and we both thought shit, she is ovulating Maybe, or shit. So it set off a breeding kink in addition to the chemical pre-kink for us. Yeah, but he got out and when he got out he announced to the group you know Yay, buckner Woo, and everyone's cheering.
Speaker 1:That's so Las Vegas.
Speaker 2:Well, we weren't in las vegas at the time. Um, we're here in our hometown, here in colorado. Oh, this is okay, so it's even worse because it's a small town. We're in a small town in colorado. My god right, it's even worse. Um, but her sister came up to her sister and best friend came up to the car. They both made sure she was okay. Um, and then her sister was like well, I'm gonna go party with them, I'll see you guys later. Her sister and best friend came up to the car. They both made sure she was okay, and then her sister was like well, I'm going to go party with them, I'll see you guys later. And we left to go home and the ride home was only like six minutes and it was the quietest longest car ride I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 1:Okay, becca, what was that like for you?
Speaker 3:It was interesting for you. It was interesting.
Speaker 1:For sure it was crazy, um, but very cool. Yeah, wait, did you what? How did you feel about all of the other people outside that knew what was going on? Did that make you feel weird?
Speaker 3:so so he's saying it like it's a group of like rando people. Besides the the fact that it was him and his friends, those were random from the bar, but otherwise you were talking about my three closest girls, so it never went anywhere. It was a full trust moment, you know. So totally fine there.
Speaker 2:Just the fact that people were watching was, oh for sure.
Speaker 1:For me, so was it humiliating for you, true?
Speaker 2:was it? Um it it was. Yeah, I was so embarrassed, um, so I was trying to, like you know, hide my face while I was driving out of the parking lot, you know. But, um, yeah, kind of kind of, you know, it turns me on a bit, you know.
Speaker 1:Did you do cleanup after that? Did that happen?
Speaker 2:after. Well, that's the thing. When we got home, we didn't even she didn't even get out of the Jeep. I got out and I opened the door for her to get her out. You know, because I'm a gentleman. She's on a date, not with me, but she ended the date with me. So I opened the door and she looked at me and she just opened her legs and she said well, you going to do it, cock. Did you say that and my head just sank between her legs, that's hot as fuck.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was. It was incredible. We loved it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Did you, Becca.
Speaker 3:I'm assuming you knew that that he would really really like it if you said that and did that in that moment yes, yeah, I think I always have, but it's also just like a weird skill set of mine that I can just bust out super crazy filthy in the moment, dirty talk, without much thought process, and it's gotten us in trouble in a good way in a few times so oh my god drew, you won the lottery with her.
Speaker 1:I did.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, that's hot as fuck yeah, that's just the beginning and then, and then we kind of dove in after that well, yeah, after that experience I could see how that would kind of snowball into a uh deep dive into cuckolding yes so where did you guys go after that?
Speaker 1:did you look for a legit like bull, or?
Speaker 2:well, what happened? Um, at the time, craigslist was still operational, that's. That's how long we've been doing this, so oh, I love, I love.
Speaker 1:Craigslist was still operational. That's, that's how long we've been doing this, so we oh, I love, I love Craigslist was the best it's just no, no, no drama, no, nothing, just how you doing you ugly.
Speaker 2:Okay, bye, you know. But so we, um, we dove into Craigslist and we had a few experiences there and they were, they were okay. You know, um, they were, they were good experiences.
Speaker 3:Some were not so great. One time, and only one time, did I have to use my safe word and that was the worst sex I'd ever had in my entire life. Dude would pump once, flip me full 360, one pump, flip again full 360. I'm like not only will I never come this way, but my vagina is turning to cement like fix this now. And Andrew was like you gotta go, you gotta go. Safe work time, so those do happen too.
Speaker 2:We've only met one guy that we ever called bull, and he set the bar so unbelievably high that it's been hard for us to find anyone to give that title to again.
Speaker 3:You know like do you want me to tell this one from my perspective, since he did the last one?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I sure do, because I've never heard from your perspective. I've written all of the stories, by the way, like in like short story format, and I've always wanted to release them as an ebook. But I'm a nervous one.
Speaker 1:Oh, you should, you should, you definitely should.
Speaker 3:Okay. So in terms of like being more dominant or hot life behavior, a lot of those things really just happen naturally for me. I'm an Aquarius, I am strong and independent, we are a female led relationship really, and always have been Okay, so let's get that aside. I'm very much not used to anyone else having control in a situation, and I didn't know how much I would like it when it did happen. So we meet Todd online and agree to go meet at a hotel on bar finder.
Speaker 3:We met him this is the only person we've ever actually met from any website successfully yeah, by the way, who like came and really was what he said he was. We started in the bar and had a drink. I immediately felt very comfortable around him, but he also was like off the bat, like this is what you want to drink and you should probably only have one drink. And I was like what the fuck? Like? People don't talk to me like this, you know. But I was falling. I was doing it a hundred percent. Let me follow your instructions. Whatever happens happens Right. And he's kind of doing the same thing to Andrew too. We haven't discussed his sexuality yet. Babe. Do you want to say that part before I just tell the story or not? Oh no, yeah, I'm okay.
Speaker 2:I'm good.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay, so, so, uh, we go upstairs, we all immediately undress and we are like blindsided by how absolutely beautiful this man is, with the hugest cock I've ever seen in real life, 100% Like there was a crooked in it. I'm like, okay, I don't know how my insides work, but I'm not sure this is going to be compatible. Right, it's that big, but then it was. So he starts off with telling Andrew all right, go get in your chair and ties him up to the chair.
Speaker 2:It wasn't even that they had me undress in front of them while they were fully closed and what he had was he had. He had two wrist cuffs and he put them on behind my back and he put a collar on and then he had a bar that went from the collar to the cuffs. So I was stuck like that and he had me get on my knees beside the bed and wait, and that's what I was for most of the night.
Speaker 3:Why they, you know so he's really good at the floor play too. We do a whole lot of that. We both have given each other oral sex and we're we're enjoying and going with everything. And then he puts it inside me and it was like an awakening, like I'd never experienced anything like that. And I remember looking at Andrew and we like make these eyes, where we communicate with each other, like is this really okay, you know? And I and he gave me like a funny look that I didn't know how to read and I said out loud, if you told me to stop, I don't think I could. Todd was inside of me.
Speaker 2:That is so hot, he thought it was hot too.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He talked to me about it for a few minutes while they fucked.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:You know, do you think she stopped? Do you think he stopped her?
Speaker 1:Oh my god, that is one of the hottest things I've ever heard. Oh my god, he was incredible, see things I've ever heard.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, he was incredible. See, he set the bar way too high so high, so high, uh.
Speaker 3:And then, after like literally probably two hours of he and I devouring each other and drew in this crazy uncomfortable position, he knew that andrew was bisexual, but he hadn't really disclosed to us anything about his own sexuality, which is totally fine because, of course, bisexual men are rare and we have sex with people who are not bi, and that's totally fine. There's no touching, right, of course, we're consent people, right. So he didn't really tell us much of anything. Keep in mind, like my number one always favorite kink ever is a dude who will suck dick, who is not necessarily bi, right? Okay, I love it, I love it. Same with women. Actually, like no, I don't think I am. Oh, my God, I love it this one time. That's great, good for you, experience it, you know. So after we do all that, he calls andrew over to the bed. Okay, baby, you can finish in there because you'll, you'll do details better.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so he does. He called, he calls me over to the bed. Well, first, right, right before he comes, is when he calls me over to the bed. And he calls me over and he says I, I got a question and he goes what? What is this like suction cup thing? Her pussy's doing this, pulling me back in, like he's talking to me about the features of how good my wife's pussy feels, like it was insane and she's, she's, she's. She left out a very important part in the beginning. When they first started fucking, she started screaming. Well, it started real low. It started with her just going god damn. And this went oh, oh, god damn, oh, oh god damn, oh god damn it, oh god damn. It just kept getting louder and I was like, well, she's never fucking said that before.
Speaker 3:That that's when this gets involuntary, it's not scripted.
Speaker 1:I've been there. I've said the exact same thing before I know see, so you know it's a real experience.
Speaker 2:That's truth, right there truth oh so right before that, and then he, and then he comes, and he comes in her and he pulls out and he immediately just shoves his dick down my throat oh really yeah and just spends a couple minutes just fucking my face. I mean just using my face for a minute.
Speaker 1:Wait hold on. Hold on Because, like guys, after they come on isn't their dick like really sensitive Like?
Speaker 2:do you? I guess not. His did not change state at all.
Speaker 3:Wow, he was a little bit older than us and we've decided since then that he probably took dick pills, which is good for him because they work. So that's probably it.
Speaker 2:We were like 35, and he was like 48. Okay, we've come to the conclusion that he he must've been on some sort of Cialis.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:So he fucked your face. Wow this is very hot.
Speaker 2:Okay, and then and then, when he was done, um, he just shoved my face into her pussy and just kind of cause you were restrained, you couldn't do anything.
Speaker 2:He was just yeah, oh, wow, yeah. So I cleaned her up and made her come and and then. And then he said well, what do you think he's been a good boy? She was like of course he's been a good boy. And he was like well, then we should reward him. And that's when they unlocked me and brought me up on the bed for more of a threesome type cuck holding, which was fun too.
Speaker 1:So okay, so you got to have some fun too. So before okay, before you guys went into that, you said you know you he didn't really talk to you about the bisexual part or anything like that, which was fine. But did he talk to you about like was there any discussion about the tying up and stuff like that, which was fine. But did he talk to you about like, was there any discussion about the tying up and stuff like?
Speaker 2:that the only hint we really had was the very first conversation. He sent a really nice message that was like you know, your guys' profile is really well done. And I'm the one that did it. So I was like oh, thank you so much, you know, and he's like your profile is really well done. You know, she's beautiful, you guys are a beautiful couple, you know, if you care to message me.
Speaker 2:So we messaged him and of course, he sent a picture and when I first saw his dick pic, I was like, am I looking at this right? And she was like I think so, you know, because it just couldn't tell how big it was. We're like, all right, you know, um. And then he said he said, um, take a picture and send it to me. And I told him, you know, I was like there's a lot of pictures of her on the website. He said no, no, no, no. I want you to hand her the phone, stand up, take a naked picture of you and send it to me, oh, of you, of me, oh. And so it was like very dominant and like, and we were both like do I listen? Like you know what? So we just did it, you know, and it was. It was really hot, and so we. That was the first real sign of dominance, of how the night was going to go.
Speaker 3:Right, first real sign of dominance, of how the night was going to go right and he had. He told us he had had cuck experience and we were so new to that piece of it that it was like, okay, how does this work? And just unbelievably enough, when he said something, we wanted to do it. That's never happened ever the way that he just took charge in the moment in such a non-aggressive, sexy, hardcore way.
Speaker 2:He made you want to do it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Even as a cup. Because I got that reward at the end, I knew I was going to be rewarded for anything I did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he understood the psychology behind every role in the dynamic right, yes. I think that's what makes a bull a really good bull is somebody who understands the psychology of it but appreciates it so much, like loves that role, you know, yeah, not just the oh, I'm going to get some pussy tonight, but like loves to really fuck around with the mental gymnastics of all of that and like it's so fun exactly yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2:That's what makes it fun all of that, yeah so did you see?
Speaker 1:did you guys see him after that, or was it just that one time?
Speaker 2:we saw him one other time after that, and that was an amazing experience as well did he kind go like like push a little further than the first time, or was he?
Speaker 1:it was similar to that first time which was like so incredibly hot.
Speaker 2:Um, it was. It was similar but different. Um, like he had, uh, you know, that was the first time I ever laid underneath her while she got fucked doggy, Um, you know, and he kept going back and forth from her pussy to my mouth and, um, at one point he, uh, he made her come, and when she comes real hard, uh, she collapses. Yeah, She'll just hit the bed.
Speaker 3:She's done Um don't get crazy, I don't cap out.
Speaker 2:So, except for you know, back in October but that was different. So she fell off on top of me and he's just standing there with his dick in my mouth and he looked at her and he did this just for her. He said does this turn you on? And he laid on top of me in his 69th. Oh really Right. So that's never done that with a man before. That was very, you know it like shifted my thinking from oh you know, I just I just kind of like to suck dick a bit too. This is really intimate, and touching a man's body turns me on, you know.
Speaker 3:You know when you replay it back in your mind. Mind that piece of it too. If he took the psychology to the next level of like making sure to know how I should feel as a hot wife, because he put me in control of that situation even without being touched, and talked to me about it the whole time, and that's on.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh he's a really good ball. We actually just reached out to him recently and was like, if you're back in the area, man I need to have him on the show, really like that sounds like some incredible experiences just beyond us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, totally yeah, that would be great.
Speaker 2:He was amazing. But he set the bar so high that everyone else even people she's had sex with long term, you know called themselves bull and we were kind of like, I mean with a little, with a little do you drew?
Speaker 1:do you have any of that? Like most guys, if not all guys who have cuckolding fantasies or desires struggle with some sort of shame around that. Do you have? Did you ever have any of that? Like, was there any?
Speaker 2:I had a lot of that um. There was a lot of that through the journey. There was a lot of embarrassment, a lot of humiliation, a lot of shame, um. But as as we got more comfortable with it and more people would find out um. Like there was one day um we took a couple of friends from work um, these two girls we work with, we all went up to this hot springs for the day, um, how hot springs day. And she just happened to decide to tell them both oh yeah, you know, I fuck other man, he's cuckold, and you know what I mean. And just them finding out, you know little things like that um would embarrass me and turn me on um. So through the years it's really become more of a source of uh pleasure more than embarrassment. You know, those little humiliation moments or things like that, I mean they still make me feel embarrassed in the moment, but later I'm like you, dirty little, you know okay because, like you know, um, there's so many guys out there, especially what women do, for sure.
Speaker 1:But the fear that so many guys have and you'll see this on Reddit too like just absolute fear of being outed of other people, finding out of them, losing friends, family, coworkers, whatever, just gripped with fear around this, and I get it, I totally fucking understand, but do you guys not give a fuck? You're just like whatever.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, it's been a process for sure, and we do give a fuck. We have lost friends and family knows too. We've kind of come full circle with that. Um, my family is always been very supportive and whatever. Whatever makes you go, be happy, be happy. You know type of people. His family doesn't, I think, know that and that's probably fine. And then we've had lots of friends, and typically what happens with friends when they find out, the normal response that we get, which always drives me crazy is I could just never. My husband would never let me do that, because my husband just loves me way too much to let me do that. Cringe when I hear that yeah.
Speaker 2:That's always the initial response.
Speaker 3:And I want to respond by saying my husband loves me so much I do. Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 2:You know it's a gift, yeah, and then like half of those people that respond that way, they'll come to us. You know, a few weeks later, like there was a girl we worked with she, she found out I was bisexual and she had made some you know that's gross comments and things like that. She found out what we were doing. She was like that's gross, my husband would never let me. All the same comments. Two weeks later we're sitting there at work and she goes. So can you tell me a little bit more about it? Yeah, and I start telling her some things we've done and some stories and she's squirming around in her chair and she was like I mean, I'm so wet. She was like how do I get, how do I get my man to do this?
Speaker 3:Wow, so true, so true. The good reactions definitely outweigh, like those.
Speaker 2:The girl who had the initial bad reaction, who's coming to us going. Yeah, how do I make this happen? You know?
Speaker 3:Most people haven't been together for 29 years. If you haven't been together for 29 years, don't tell me how to make it work at 29 years. You know what I mean. Yeah, and we're happy and in love and I don't know anybody like that decades in, unless they continue to maintain growing and evolving and loving in whatever capacity that is for them. But if you're like staying the same all the time and not changing, those people get bored. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That's absolutely right. I've always felt like with this kind of relationship dynamic and you guys, your cuckolding is not the center of your relationship. You call yourself what was a polyamorous swingers with a lot of cuckolding is not the center of your relationship. You call yourself what was a polyamorous swingers with a lot of cuckolding themes right, which is pretty cool, but I can see how that would never be boring. You've got a lot of different scenarios that you could try and experiences and all that sort of stuff, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we've had all kinds of different scenarios and experiences and I think the reason we're going a little bit more polyamorous is because we're at that point in our marriage where and we're still pretty young, you know we're only mid-40s and you know we've been each other's best friend and life partner in everything. You know, um, our whole lives and life experiences happen. So, like if you meet somebody who you know, you kind of really connect with. I think we're at that point where, um, we're open to explore those connections Um me, me more than her, cause, you know, I um, to be honest, I, I don't really have the capacity to have more than one. We, we tried it once. It did not go well, but there's a lot of stress on my part. But, you know, in reverse, you know if her having a relationship with another man, you know she doesn't really have to, you know it would be him putting in more effort, not me putting in double effort.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, instead of taking away from her, like the relationship we tried with a woman, did you know it would add to the relationship.
Speaker 1:Right In my opinion.
Speaker 2:That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, the relationship right. In my opinion, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, and I don't know why it makes my makes me happy to think about her experiencing something like that, but it does.
Speaker 1:I don't really understand it fully, but I know it does and I accept it and I like it that's like a compersion part, I guess, when you feel you feel really, really you feel joy when someone else you love and care about is experiencing joy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's just something about that, right yeah?
Speaker 1:Okay, and so what have been some of the challenges or the difficulties around having this aspect, this dynamic, to your relationship, your marriage? You guys are saying, like life happens and stuff like that. I'm assuming that there's been some parts of your life where this has kind of taken a backseat and you've focused more on other things, or have there been issues around communication? Everything that I have learned about this, about cuckolding, is that you really need like master level communication and trust and openness and honesty and sharing and all that sort of stuff. Right, how's that been for you guys?
Speaker 3:You know, yeah, there's definitely been trials and tribulations. The losing relationships is always a crappy thing, especially because those people are judging our morals and integrity and that's not something that should ever be questioned based on sex, and sex alone. You know the fact, our loyalty and commitment to our marriage is better than most. So it's always like you know the audacity I feel like really to get the judgment, and it takes that communication with each other and support with each other and always like saying how we're feeling and checking in on everything. We are to the extreme when it comes to aftercare. We like have a ritual of making out, only making love for a few days. Uh, a lot of extra attention and affection and communication, a lot of conversation.
Speaker 3:What did you think about this? What did you think about that? What was this like for you? Sometimes those conversations lead into more sex sessions, right, and sometimes it's like, oh my gosh, that's a big lesson for me. I'll never do that again if that wasn't a vibe right. But we continue to do that and because of that, that's why we've really got to explore. There is no fantasy or situation that either one of us has ever thought of, that we haven't shared with each other and, even more so, been like well, let's try and do that, let's figure it out. You know you want to be watched. Okay, let's do it outside. How does that work? You know, because it's fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and getting that communication was a rough road, you know we did. We did have to learn along the way. Yeah. Um you know. So there, there were issues here and there, but you know we did work through them. Um, learn that communication, um, you just, I guess, in our opinion, you just kind of choose to communicate or not, and that's where relationships build, or don't, yes, yeah, cuckolding or not, that's just how relationships work.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but because we can be so open and honest about that aspect of our lives, it just makes everything else that much easier. To be that honest about, you know, instead of like what's wrong with you, are you upset, we're in a bad mood and like just not communicating like couples do, it's like, oh no, specifically this this happened at work today and I'm upset about it. Let's talk it out about everything, because we know that we're in a safe place to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Or even if we don't want to talk about it. It's just, this happened and I don't want to talk about it. You know why I'm upset and you don't have to sit there and worry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense, yeah, and so what are some of the lessons, advice tips that you guys would give for couples who are thinking about cuckolding?
Speaker 3:I'm going to say this for the ladies and the lifestyle Do a lot of self our work to destroy what it is. We have been told since we were children about sexuality. Our bodies are our own. It is a gift that we get to explore and feel and amazing things happen with our bodies sexually, spiritually, love, all of the above and it's yours. No one else gets to have a say in how that goes. There is no such thing as the word slut. Every good thing in life. We have people who are addicted to those things and take it to the extreme. Sex is one of them. It's not a good thing to be addicted to, but it's definitely a healthy outlet to enjoy this crazy shit show that is this world, right, it is definitely a healthy outlet to enjoy this crazy shit show that is this world, right. Yes, do it Feel good about it. Love yourself, love your partner and have confidence because you're amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, personally, I feel like it's a tragedy when a woman does not get the opportunity to really expand and explore her sexuality in her life. Like, how many women do you know that get married and then that's it? They're just with the same dick for the rest of their life?
Speaker 3:Same position, same time of the week yeah, having an orgasm, maybe 10% of the time. Right, that's more normal, which is crazy.
Speaker 2:I mean to be quite honest, in in cuckolding. Cuckolding has made me a better sexual partner, you know. Oh yeah, I see something and I'm like what the hell did he just do, you know? And I'm looking for a book, I'm researching something. I'm asking him, hey, what did you just do? You know? Because I want to learn. That is a really great point, you know. So I mean, being in the lifestyle has also made us both way better lovers to each other, you know.
Speaker 3:Absolutely Always learning tips Like what did you just do under there? Okay, let me try that out right, he's Googling.
Speaker 1:Why is her pussy vacuuming, suctioning to his dick? How does that happen?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's really incredible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's really a gift that you give each other in so many different ways, and that's probably why, when you brought it up to that woman, who was like ew, ick, gross, like how could you, super judgy? And then she comes back and wants to learn more, because she realizes this is really something, an opportunity to expand your own personal growth in your area of sexuality. This is an opportunity for you to really celebrate that side of you. Like you're talking about just the confidence and everything like that, and just letting go of the stigma and the slut shaming and all of that shit like that. This is an opportunity for you to. And it's a fucking gift because, like, as women, we don't normally get that. Like that's not. We don't normally get the opportunity and permission and and everything that consent to be able to go and do that ourselves, but to have a partner who's like, yes, let's do's do this, I love this, I love this about you. I feel like, as a woman, this is just the best fucking thing.
Speaker 3:Right, like having the sex of a woman, but the safety that a man provides in yourself, great Right.
Speaker 1:Right, I love it. I love it. I think it's fantastic. Okay, and one of the other things I wanted to say which I think is great I love how you guys are really making this relationship your own in your own way, and like there's so much pressure out there for people to do cuckolding and what other people think is like the right way, and like it's not real cuckolding unless you do it this way and stuff like that. And I'm guilty of that in the very beginning when I was trying to learn about cuckolding, like trying to figure out like what's actual cuckolding, what's not, and kind of gatekeeping the the whole you can be. It can only be a cuck if you're this way or whatever. Like this is just stupid shit. Like. What has been wonderful for me is to be able to witness couples like yourself who have their own very unique style of living this lifestyle and blending it with other aspects of non-monogamy or swinging or whatever, and so I think that's really beautiful. So I'm really happy to have you guys on the show.
Speaker 2:It's been an amazing journey. I mean so many stories and things.
Speaker 1:Can you write this book already?
Speaker 2:I'm working on it, I'm in the editing, mean, I'm editing the first part of it real quick. Um, I should probably have heard you that because she's the one who went to college, but I think that would be fantastic because it sounds like you guys have some hot stories like oh my god.
Speaker 1:I must say, like the highlight has been that that one, that story of your first, like actual bull, that was hot as fuck.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I mean we're still trying to get up to that level again.
Speaker 1:Damn, I need my vibrator after this Like that was incredible.
Speaker 2:It was. It was an incredible experience Um one part of that story that we we left out, um, I don't know why we left out out, but one part of the story we left out is um my cock was caged.
Speaker 2:That entire time as well. Oh wow, yeah, that was, um, that was fun as well, so it made the experience even more intense for me. Being in that cage. I never really understood them before until that point, and now I understand, understand them completely. You know, with the uh, just the way it makes your body feels insane, yeah Well you were completely restrained too.
Speaker 1:So you were restrained, restrained everywhere.
Speaker 2:Right, just listening. And at one point during during their sex. Um, so I'm sitting there, I'm restraining, my cocks restrained. Um, I'm actually kind of shaking because of how horny I am like a, like a dog or something you know it was. You know it was almost embarrassing and um, there was a. There was one point where he was fucking her and I really couldn't see what was going on and I tried to like lean forward to get a better view and he snapped at me and he said he said turn around and face the wall.
Speaker 2:Oh, and he made me turn away and face the wall while they finished Um, and all I could see was the shadows and hear it, and it was so intense. It was, I mean, God he was so good. Oh yeah, the man has a skillset. God, he was so good.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, the man has a skill set. That's amazing. Yeah, he needs to come on the show, so if you're listening, you know who this is.
Speaker 2:We'll see if we can get him. That would be amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, that's going to be it for this episode. We have run out of time. I'm dying to know if there's a lot of other stories, though, so I'm sure that there is, but maybe I'll have you guys on the show again at some point in time, or maybe for a pillow talk event. That would be really fun.
Speaker 2:We'd love that.
Speaker 1:But thank you so much, becca and Drew. I really love having you on the show. It's been so fun.
Speaker 3:Thank, you so much. It was wonderful.
Speaker 2:It was yeah, thank you.
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