The Venus Cuckoldress Podcast
The Venus Cuckoldress Podcast
The Risky World of Cuckolding in Forbidden Countries
What happens when your deepest desires are criminalized by society? Ahmed's story opens a window into a shadowy world where the thrill of cuckolding comes with the risk of imprisonment, family destruction, and permanent social exile. Unlike cucks in Western countries who might worry about judgment from friends, Ahmed faces potential arrest and public shaming if his lifestyle choices are discovered in his conservative Arab homeland.
Despite these dangers, Ahmed and his adventurous wife have crafted an extraordinary double life, using work travel to explore their desires in more permissive countries.
What makes this story particularly fascinating is how Ahmed's wife transformed from a traditional virgin bride into a sexually liberated woman who discovered her own pleasure in both the experiences themselves and in the joy they brought her husband.
Ahmed's story ultimately delivers a powerful message about authenticity: "Life is too short to not live expressing yourself. You just need to find somebody who will accept you as you are." For listeners in more permissive societies, his courage offers both inspiration and perspective on the freedoms we often take for granted.
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This is the Venus Cuckoldress podcast, a place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious, for the passionate and for the sexually empowered woman who wants it all. Let's go. Welcome to the show. I'm your host, venus. Thanks so much for joining me today.
Speaker 1:Today I have a guest named akmed and he's going to talk about what it's really like to have a cuckolding relationship in an arab country. This is the first time I've had a guest like this on the show to share this kind of story, and I'm so glad to do it because I've learned so much. This has been fascinating to me. There are huge risks associated with being outed and like really serious consequences If people find out what you're into in these kinds of countries, and this was just so eye-opening to me. I couldn't believe it. It's such a fascinating story, Really shocking, but also very sexy. Oh my God. His wife is something else. She is amazing. You're going to love her. Anyways, this is such a great story. You're going to learn a lot and I think it's a really great opportunity to learn about what cuckolding is like in other parts of the world. So we're going to jump into that episode right after this quick break from my friends over at Joy Mode.
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Speaker 2:Well, hello to all your fans and your people, and all our people too, in this community.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm really excited for you to share your story because you're the first guest that I've had on this show who's from an Arab, Muslim, very religious, conservative country who has been into this lifestyle and willing to share his story. So thank you so much for coming on the show.
Speaker 2:You're welcome. I want to share my story and highlight that, even though it is like a secret thing, in our countries there is a huge community of the people who are into this lifestyle. Yeah, but due to our you know circumstances in our country it is hard to do that or be a little bit not open. But you know, have communities or places for that. It's really hard to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I know in the United States like I'm here in Canada and it's a thing here, but for sure in the United States that's where the majority of the listeners are of this show you can be into this lifestyle. I mean, not many people are out there like flaunting it, but you don't have to be afraid of like a lot of repercussions for being into this. But in Arab Muslim conservative countries, I mean, I have come across a lot of people actually in those countries who've contacted me over the years to talk about the fact that they are into this, that they're. You know it's difficult for them and stuff like that, and I've always been just like so surprised at how many people are doing it in those countries. What is the real risk there? I'm sure there's a heavily stigmatized, but what is the real risk of being into the cuckolding lifestyle when you live in one of those countries? Like, do you, would you like get arrested or just just shunned from people, shamed from people? What happens if people find out?
Speaker 2:Well, let me give you just one incident that happened last week. There is a guy and his wife got arrested because he has a cold relation with her and his friend, and the story started by. His friend hadn't any place to stay, so the husband invited him to stay with him and since he and his wife live in just one room, so he was sleeping with them, and this is how it started. Then he got out and they got arrested all of them.
Speaker 2:Wow, and you know the investigation, the video investigation, and show it everywhere on the social media, and now they are stigmatized forever.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And plus, in my country the population is small, Really really small, so mostly everybody knows everybody. If they don't know you personally, they don't know your family name. So if something like that happens, it will stigmatize you forever and your family.
Speaker 1:Wow, so, wow, okay, so, and you get, actually get arrested for it, like you'd have to go to jail.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, wow, yeah, wow, and all three of them. Not just the husband and wife, no, all three of them.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, wow, and all three of them not just the husband and wife, no, all three of them.
Speaker 1:Wow Okay, so and wow yeah, that'd be difficult. So I mean, like, how do you, how would you go about living this lifestyle? And like, how do you maintain, maintain, how do you have any sort of community if you can't trust anybody? Do you have a community there?
Speaker 2:in my country, no, and even the people that I know they are in the lifestyle or other kind of lifestyle and even in open marriages and non-monogamy relations. Mostly they don't do anything in the country.
Speaker 1:They do it outside the country. Oh, okay, so you have to have the means to be able to travel outside of your country to participate in anything that would be considered different from the expectation of a relationship in your country.
Speaker 2:Yes, wow, and I'm lucky in this part because my kind of work and my ex-wife's kind of work required from us traveling a lot.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, so you travel for work? That would make it at least a little bit easier. Do you still get afraid of people finding out, though, even though you're doing these things in other countries?
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course, at one point I have a friend who was organizing swinger parties. He was doing that in another country, of course, but most of his clients are from my country. Then they encouraged him to do that in our country and when he did that he was you know, at the beginning it was okay. Then he got discovered, so he had to escape the country and now start his activity in another country.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:And he asked me to host with him one of these parties, since he was short and stuff. I told him I cannot do that Because the people are from our country. So the next day when we finish the party, I will be traveling with them in the same airplane back.
Speaker 1:Right, right, yes, and you can't trust anybody.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Wow, oh my God, that must be so hard I can't even imagine. So let's jump into how you got into this in the first place. Apparently, you started out as a bull for couples, is that right?
Speaker 2:Yes, that's long, like long, long time ago. Yeah, and this is another problem in our country, our Muslim country in general. I started that very, very at a young age, like my first couple, when I was something who can be criminalized in another country, but it's very normal in our country.
Speaker 1:I started at 15 oh, wow yes what were you doing at 15 doing this stuff?
Speaker 2:So, honestly, to be saying this is the first experience I was used by the couple.
Speaker 1:Oh really.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Oh shit.
Speaker 2:She was my teacher and lived close to my house too, so she's my neighbor.
Speaker 1:Oh fuck.
Speaker 2:Yes, and at 15, I was kind of big for my age and I look like almost exactly like my dad and apparently she had a crush on him and her husband went to cook all things. So since they didn't couldn't get my dad, so they get me instead of him.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, this is such a wild story.
Speaker 2:It is, oh my god this is such a wild story. It is, oh my god.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's not cool, though. You were way too young. That's not good.
Speaker 2:I know I couldn't say that it didn't affect me for the long run, but at some point I get over it.
Speaker 1:Things start to get better at some point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it, things start to get better at some point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a bit messed up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is, if you look at it.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, Wow, Okay. Was that the only experience that you had with couples like as a quote-unquote bull?
Speaker 2:No, I had another couple. Even that was messed up, because the husband he's the one who introduced me to the wife, and after I got to his wife a few times, she was really good and hot and I was young too, so I got addicted and he was bisexual so he wanted to do things with me too.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, First I agreed, Then no, this is not my thing.
Speaker 1:So I broke up with them oh, wow, Okay. And then nothing after that. You didn't do anything with couples, anything after that.
Speaker 2:I did, but you know I took a long break from any sexual activities for like from 23 to 28.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Five years. And then I was working at this company and there was this Italian old dude who's married to Egyptian woman, and he brought her to the company and asked me to come meet her, say hi to her. I said hi to her. I didn't know at first what was that about, and then after a few days he asked me to come with him to his apartment because his wife's computer broke. So if I could fix it for her, I said sure. So when we went there he told me right away I need to take the dog for a walk or he will not stop barking all night. So he left me alone with her. So we sat down, we chatted with her a little, fixed on her computer. We sat down, we chatted with her, a little, fixed on her computer, and then I felt like she was trying to seduce me and I told her he's my co-worker, I cannot do something like that. She said, don't worry, he will join us in a little bit and watch.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, and you knew exactly what that was all about. Yes, yeah, I knew Because of my best experience and apparently the first time she came to the company was to check me out.
Speaker 2:Oh God, yeah. So I stayed with this couple for a few months until his assignment done in our country and went back to this country, so yeah, that was the last one.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, Okay. And then you met this woman who you got married to, and you eventually brought it up that you wanted to be the cuckold right.
Speaker 2:Not like that exactly it's hard to do that in our culture. Yeah, so she knew that I have some sexual experience before. I told her about some of them. Okay, and I married her virgin and young she's 10 years younger than me.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And she was virgin and of course we were a little bit adventurous than most married couple in our country and we have some little kings, we try some stuff. Of course we had kids too. And then at one point she convinced me that she had few experience before we got married. Yeah, I was like don't tell. And I know that she. In high school she had a boyfriend, but it was long distance. They met just a few times. I was thinking that maybe something normal kids do you know kissing, maybe some fondling or something like that. She said no, a little bit more than that. So they do some oral stuff apparently. And at some point she was trying to do more than that. So she was working on her back door to surprise him with that. Since she in this country losing virginity is a big deal, she thought maybe something like that will happen. So she was getting ready for that by getting ready in the other door.
Speaker 1:Okay, so she was having anal sex.
Speaker 2:No, she didn't. She was getting ready, preparing herself.
Speaker 1:Oh really.
Speaker 2:So when they met and the thing escalate, she would be able to do that.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm talking about 18 years ago doing that. So it kind of was hot. And when I met her first we were friends and there was some flirtation but there was nothing set in stone or clear that we are together and something like that. And at some point before we start the real dating and real relation, she went to another country with one of her friends and her friend brought a guy to their room and they were drunk and they were having sex and they tried to get her into it, into them. She didn't at first. Then things escalated so she let the, she joined them and let them use her back door.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yes, and after that she got afraid. She was young I think 20 years old at that time and of course you know Islamic country and stuff and parents. She freaked out and when she came back to the country and I met her again I noticed there's something different. But I didn't focus on that at that time and she didn't tell me that until after five years of marriage she confessed that to me.
Speaker 1:Oh Well, you know, I think that shows a lot that she was able to tell you. She must have felt safe to tell you that, yes, yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2:Actually, at some point before we get married, I told her I don't care if she is not a virgin. As long as you are loyal to me, you are open to me, talking to me, I don't care about anything. In the past it took her five years to convince that.
Speaker 1:Wow, you're the best. But it took her five years to convince that. Wow, yeah, so she was definitely not like. She is definitely a little bit more um spicy than vanilla.
Speaker 2:and she is spicy, yeah, and she's super, she's beautiful.
Speaker 1:So how did it come up where you were like, oh, how about we do the cuckolding thing?
Speaker 2:Before cuckolding. I know if I go directly for that she would refuse and things might. So I did something maybe that she would refuse and things went. So I did something, maybe manipulative a little bit. I told her that you have never been officially with any man except me, so you have a free pass.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's nice.
Speaker 2:And see how do you feel about it later after that. At first, of course, she said, no, I will be with you. I said, okay, I'm confident about me, my ability, my love for you, your love for me. This is something you know, physical, and something that, to try, it's in your hand. You want to do it anytime, do it, I have no problem with that. And I told her about my best experience, and especially with the Italian and Egyptian couple. At some point I felt lonely because after Ramadan I would just go home and she would stay with him talking about it, you know, while I'm just there for for sexual thing. Yeah, this is the difference, love while I'm just there for sexual thing.
Speaker 2:This is the difference. Anyway, she didn't accept at some point and said she will think about it and we let it for a few months, almost a year. But there was some teasing about it sometime when she was going to her check-up by a doctor, she said he's cute and he was checking her stuff. Like that. I'm teasing about it. Sometimes when she's going to her doctor, I get checked up by a doctor. She said he's cute and he was checking her stuff like that. Turn me on. She discovered that I enjoy this stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sure it was pretty obvious.
Speaker 2:She'll start teasing me a little bit about that and one work trip. I wasn't with her At some point. We worked together, same organization. Then everybody everyone had his own job, different organization had his own job, different organization. So when we were in the same organization there was training in Egypt and I wasn't included. She went there and then she slept with a guy.
Speaker 1:Who.
Speaker 2:Yes, he was, you know, a diver, and she freaked out.
Speaker 1:Oh, she had a hard time with it.
Speaker 2:She didn't want to tell me. She was afraid that I will act weird or differently. She got scared and she didn't tell me about it, but I noticed right away when she came back.
Speaker 2:You knew yes, because she slept with him the day before she came back. Oh, and when she came back, of course, I didn't see her for almost a month, more than a month, because I was traveling before that and she traveled before I came back, so it was like two months. So, of course, when she came back, I had sex with her and right away I noticed there is something different inside of her. I didn't want to freak her out, since she didn't tell me about it, so we just did a little bit of investigation.
Speaker 2:And since she added him at Facebook, so I already know how he looks like oh, wow and I know from a co-worker that she met him on a diving trip with all the group and then she went alone the day before the comeback, so I can knock the door all of them. So at least that I know that she, she did this stuff and she can you gave her a hot pass yes, and she did it.
Speaker 2:I was a little bit angry because she didn't tell me, but I understand that she freaked out. So I started assuring her that I'm okay with something like that. And since she didn't tell me, I told her that she still has a free pass because I'm pretending that I don't know. Yeah, and she got a little bit scared, and so on a vacation that we have in turkey after that, right away, I found in the hotel that we are and there is a massage specialist. He he's a cute Turkish guy and I know that his working schedule was day on, day off, so I booked her three appointments.
Speaker 1:Three appointments.
Speaker 2:Three appointments, yes, day after day.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:So they will know each other, they would get comfortable and I hope something would happen.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And after the first session I was the one who was teasing her. Did something happen? Did you get a happy ending? Something like that she goes no, it was good. Did he touch you anywhere? She noticed. So the next appointment she came. When she came back she teased me and had fun with me. And the third appointment, you know, she had her completely now. So apparently there was a little bit of action, not a lot, but there was some teasing and some flirtation. And she came back her face was flushed red and told me about that and we had fun.
Speaker 2:So I was easing her onto this by doing soft stuff yeah yeah, and after that I was in Tunisia and I found that there is a band that she liked having concert concert there. So I booked tickets for both of us and I booked an airline ticket for her, called her, told her to bring some sexy dresses and here's your ticket come meet me in Tunisia. And she did. She came, I picked her from the airport, went to the Airbnb, bought her stuff. Let me tell you one point Tunisia, it's more developed and more open-minded country than most of the Arab countries. Okay, so you can dress nicely, you can. There's nightclubs, you can even have drinks there, so this is where we mostly have fun.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So I took her out to dinner. She drank a little bit of wine. Then we went out clubbing. We were dancing. She looked nice. I get a little bit tired.
Speaker 2:So I sat back and there was this dude trying to dance with her. So when I sat he took the chance and started dancing with her, getting closer to her. She was a little bit tipsy at that time. So when he got close behind her she looked at me. She said like I was giving her the look of approval. She gave me this evil smile.
Speaker 2:Then she turned back to the guy, started dancing with him, getting closer to him, let him touch her, hold her from the back, and then she let him kiss her. And she took his phone number. Then she ran away. I barely grabbed her before she ran away. I barely grabbed her before she ran away from the club and I was so turned on by this so I took her to the bathroom. We had a little bit of fun. Then we got back to the Airbnb. We had more fun there and at the morning we were getting on told her to text the guy, text a date with him. She did that while we were doing the deed that must have been hard yes, extremely hard, and we agreed.
Speaker 2:She agreed in timing and stuff. Then the poor guy got dished by us so we went to the concert and left him hanging. He didn't go through it till the end. So after that we had late summer vacation in a small island in Tunisia and at night there's this activity where there's music, dancing, drinking, stuff like that. And we got approached by nice older couples. They were French, so first they brought us a few drinks and we danced. He danced with my wife, I danced with his wife, stuff like that.
Speaker 2:The next day we met them again. We went out of the hotel, done some activities. At evening we did the same thing and the other day he was telling me about how beautiful my wife and how hot is my wife. I've been telling him the same about his wife. He said have you ever heard something about swinging? I said oh, of course. He said what do you think? I said I have no problem, let me check with the wife. So I told her about that and I told her what do you think? It will be your first experience wink, wink. So it would be safer if I was there with you. What do you think? She said let me think about it a little, and she has something for old guy anyway. She likes them, you. What do you think she said let me think about it a little, and she has something for old guy anyway.
Speaker 1:She likes them.
Speaker 2:Yes. So she said okay. So we went to have a little party, drink a little bit. Then we went to their room and we all had sex in the same room, the same bed, and he finished rather quickly with my wife and both of them stand on the side watching me doing his wife. And after I finished he couldn't wait so he go down on her and had reclaimed sex while we are standing there watching really yes so when we left and we were talking about it, I told her I want to have reclaimed sex too sometime at some point.
Speaker 2:What do you think he said you will get your chance. So, so getting closer too sometime at some point. What do you think he said you will get your chance. So, getting closer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a big step. That's a big step for her.
Speaker 2:Yes, it was so, since she already did that in Egypt and we had that one in the swinging part and when we came back we talked more about it and at some point she said I want to confess something to you. She told me about the Egypt guy. You know that I'm okay with that. It's just I don't want you to hide anything from me, because our relationship builds on trust.
Speaker 2:We don't hide anything from each other yeah and we had little talk about that and we work it out and she was really nice to me so I couldn't be mad and told her she can go solo or if she want to have a threesome or anything, I'm up to it, but I prefer to be included mm-hmm she said she will think and see if there is an opportunity or something like that.
Speaker 2:And we were planning to go to Turkey for New Year vacation but I couldn't because of work and, of course, the kids somebody needs to take care of them here since their grandma wasn't there at that time. So I thought I could go alone have fun. And we have a gay guy friend who said, okay, since he's going to, okay, I prefer to be with somebody that I know for protection. So they went together there and there is a guy from our country followed her there and he knew that she is there alone without me really yes, he was trying to seduce her.
Speaker 2:She got repulsive by it and she told me about it. Told me, now he doesn't show any respect for you trying to do something behind your back, since we both know him, me, and we both know this guy. So she told me about it. I get, of course, angry at him. Anyway, the gay guy introduced her to another bunch of gay guy from their community and she called me, asking me for permission to do something a little bit wild what was it?
Speaker 2:what wild. She said one of the gay guy fancied me and asked me to beg him to peg him To peg him. Yes, I told her you want to do that. She said it's an experience and I might like it or something. I told her go for it, Tell me the details later and she did. She's so brave, brave. She's so adventurous, she is and she caught me, so excited, it was fun.
Speaker 1:I like that okay, calm down.
Speaker 2:so she had a little bit of fun there. Another experience Then when she came back here and in another trip I was in Tunisia. I have a few friends there. Some are couples, some just single friends. So every time I go there I reconnect with them. And there was this particular couples that I know the guy and I know his wife Before I even I know the guy.
Speaker 2:guy and we go back like 20 years and apparently he has a medical condition where he cannot perform oh yes so I met with the girl alone at one point and she told me about his condition and how she's been suffering for years now and stuff. I showed her some of my sympathy. Then I met with the guy and he opened up to me about the same thing One time. We set up a date for both of him and his wife. Just his wife came and we get closer, a little bit closer, and there was a concert that we are supposed to go together to and he said no, he's too sick to go, so he want me to pick his wife to go to the concert.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I felt there's something off. So I called my wife, told her there might be something off happening there. She said go for it.
Speaker 1:She gave you a hall pass.
Speaker 2:She gave me a hall pass. Wow, I said, okay, we'll see. And we went to the concert and you know, the concert, the Drilling Rush and the music and the stuff and things could happen and little bits of things happen. And after the concert, before we go to the car, I was little bit concerned about, you know, my friend and, feeling little bit guilty about it, told her she said, don't worry, we are going back to the house, where he is, and we will do Nick there ok so he know about this.
Speaker 2:He is the one who was arranging this and we'll do Nick there.
Speaker 1:Okay, so he know about this. He's the one who was arranging this, I said perfect with me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know all about that, no problem with that. So I went back to the place. We had a little bit fun there. He joined us a little bit and I had fun with her. We had fun. Little bit of fun there. He joined us a little bit and I had fun with her. We had fun with her Dancing, kissing, fumbling, doing all that stuff. When we get to the real stuff, he just sits in the corner and watches.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:And it was a fun night. I will not deny it. I liked it. So when I went back I gave her dirty tears, she got a little bit jealous and she didn't keep her hand off me for three days. I said see, this is how I feel when you have something like that.
Speaker 1:So she felt like she had the same reaction that you did.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:So after that she went. Of course we travel a lot. Now I think about it. We travel a lot. At some point in one month we met like six days. We traveled for short trips, like four or five days. We met one day, then she traveled or I traveled oh wow, yeah, you guys are crazy, so for one month we met just six days in total.
Speaker 2:So on her trip she was with her friends and a friend of the friends was hitting on her. She was a little bit drunk. She, of course, said me I think that I'm going for it, and she went for it, but the experience wasn't good. The guy was a little bit aggressive, I think, and she went for it, but the experience wasn't good. The guy was a little bit aggressive, I think.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:So she came back. She said I didn't like it. I said that's why I prefer to be with you there, for more than one reason. One of them is to prevent something like that from happening.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, sid, what do you think? I said how about we find somebody that we know, or make it someone regular, especially suggest that we find somebody in Tunis, since we have mostly trouble there. Mm-hmm suggest that we find somebody in Tunis, since we mostly travel there. What do you think? We have a 10-day work trip there together. We can find somebody there, I think. So on that trip we looked for a few options and we remembered the guy that we ditched.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, you met up with him. We thought, why not to call him?
Speaker 2:Since, oh, you met up with him, we decided not to call him since he was, you know, kind of kind of cute and he was kind of nice. So we set up a date. She went on a date with him. She came back. How was it? She said he was nice, it was good, we connected. So they set up another date and at the end of the date they slept together. And she came back. How was it? She said nice, I liked him, him physically too. Okay, now I have to meet the guy. So I went, I met with the guy, tell them about our situation, and they said I cannot always travel with her and I'd rather to be with somebody we can trust, like you, respectful, like you, and when I am not there, you are the husband, you are the safety.
Speaker 1:Yeah safety.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he agreed to our term and to celebrate that we went partying together. We get back to home, home together and we had a threesome together and it was amazing. We all liked it. So now, until recently, if she go there alone, she will. Now went out of there. If we go together, we go all as a group and we had fun as a group and it's become like husband and boyfriend situation.
Speaker 1:Right yeah, were you ever afraid that she would like fall in love with him?
Speaker 2:afraid of what? Of her falling in love with him I cannot say that didn't cross my mind at some point that she was great at assuring me the difference.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yes, and she was telling me the moment that you feel anything you want to pull the plug, just tell me. I will pull the plug. I will end it right away.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and one of the things that she said, that one of the main reasons that she's doing that. She's sure she liked it and stuff, but it is how it make me pleasure too, and she's a giver, so this to give her pleasure that you know that I am excited about this and enjoying this too, so this is one of the reason why she's doing that.
Speaker 1:She's a great person yeah, I think, as a woman from from like when I met my first cuck boyfriend, like there was something really satisfying about being able to turn on your partner, get him so excited and thrilled and like like just loving it. To be able to do that, give that to somebody that you care about is awesome.
Speaker 1:It makes you feel good it makes us both feel good, so that's why we enjoyed it yeah, yeah and that feeling that you're talking about, where you were just like couldn't keep your hands off each other for three days afterwards, that feeling of like buzzing, like it was just so thrilling and exciting. I love that.
Speaker 2:Yes, every time, never go down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you guys had a bunch of experiences. She's a wild and crazy one and I love her already. I like think she's amazing. I love her. She's a wild and crazy one and I love her already. I like think she's amazing. I love her.
Speaker 1:She's so great. But I don't forget the fact that you guys are having these experiences. Yes, it's outside of your country, but still you have to go back to your country and kind of living in a bit of a fear that other people might find out somehow. That's got to be stressful for you.
Speaker 2:Yes, kind of. The only community that we could trust here in our country is the gay community, because they are suffering like us. They are all in secret community too.
Speaker 1:Oh right, of course yeah, because it's like not legal, because they are suffering like us. They are all in secret community too. Oh right, of course yeah, because it's like not legal. Homosexuality is illegal there, right yes, you can't get arrested crazy. Yeah, I guess you can trust them because they are deeply closeted yes they have to be, they have to be.
Speaker 2:So we have like three really close friends yeah, that even when they are traveling and she's traveling sometimes because she's fun, extremely fun, especially when partying and clubbing and she takes really good care of them and she protects them she's a queen, yeah, so they like to travel with her. So when I am not being able to travel with her or our schedule conflict, sometime one of them go there with her oh, that's, that's great.
Speaker 1:That's great to be able to have that somebody you can trust who's gonna keep her safe and look out for her. Yeah, that's good. Um, so what do you like? Okay, I've heard from some guests on my show and from other people in this lifestyle that, like it's the the taboo nature of cuckolding, where this is not something that you're supposed to like, this is not something that your wife's supposed to do, this is not like it's very naughty, naughty, um, and that it's because it's so taboo that it is so exciting. And I've heard that from people that like people that maybe if it wasn't so taboo that it might not be as appealing to some people. Do you think that that's the same for you? Do you like the fact that this is so naughty, that this is so exciting and that you shouldn't be doing this, or do you wish that it was more? Okay?
Speaker 2:First, we like the rush of the taboo thing. This is sure thing. It's not only about this king or this lifestyle, all other things that are taboo and stuff. They are always appealing, that's sure of that. But I would wish that it would be more easier, more acceptable to do that, because at some point in the 70s, 60s and 70s and beginning of the 80s it was kind of starting to be acceptable in our country.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Yes, there was a lot of stuff like that happening and there is a small community, some groups, that are known for that. But in the middle of the 80s until the middle of the 90s until the middle of the 90s in these 10 years, the demographic changed completely in most of the Arab country. The Islamic extreme Islamic wave started there and it started to change everything, even how people look. Now it fits. I remember in the 80s the skirt was something normal in my country. Now, if you don't wear hijab, it's not. If you have your hair in the air, it's something weird.
Speaker 1:now, before, it was the opposite. So do you think it's getting even more strict in your country now, continuing to get more strict? Yes, have you ever considered moving? Just so you can live your life a little bit more free as far as your relationship yes, I wish I could do that.
Speaker 2:but the problem that with the economy, as far as like your relationship yes, I wish I could do that. Yeah, but the problem that with the economy and all around the world it's getting worse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's tough. So what do you, having shared your story on the show today? What do you hope that the listeners take away from what you've had to say?
Speaker 2:What do you hope they learn most about your story today? What I hope to learn that it is it's not something stigmatized or something bad or will make you less. If you do that, what I want to tell them it's life is too short, to live it expressing yourself. You just need to find somebody who will accept you how you are and accept them as you, as they are, and support each other and your own needs and your desire, and I hope that at some point in our country and our world, everybody can express themselves freely and be themselves without this thought shell that society make us wear around ourselves yeah, agreed.
Speaker 1:it's one thing to get embarrassed or shamed by people because you're into something, but when you risk getting arrested, that's like that sucks, that's hard. That means it's hard, it's not about getting arrested.
Speaker 2:Your whole world will fall apart. Your family will shun you, people will obviously see you in the street, street, they will call you names and stuff and you cannot live a normal life anymore people you wouldn't even know would be would be shaming you. Yeah, crazy even people who is in this? Oh fuck, they will shun you and trying to hurt you to prove to the other people that they are not like you.
Speaker 1:Right, oh, that's awful, that's terrible.
Speaker 1:That's terrible. All right. Well, we are out of time. I do want to say a big thank you for you to share your story and for anybody listening. Right now I am going to post an email address for Ahmed. If you'd like to reach out and if you'd like to ask him a question or give him a comment about his story, you're welcome to do that. So you can find that in the episode description notes for today's show. Ahmed, thank you so much for coming on the show. I really appreciate you coming on and sharing your story. I've really learned a lot and I think it'll resonate with a lot of listeners. So thank you.
Speaker 2:You're welcome and thank you for giving me the chance to let my voice heard, and the voice of my people too, in our country. So thank you so much.
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