The Venus Cuckoldress Podcast

Pussy-Free Marriage Leads to Getting Cucked by BBC

• Venus / Zack • Season 5 • Episode 21

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Zack joins Venus to talk about how his patient devotion and a wife’s curiosity led to a first BBC experience that was hot, intense, and imperfect, and then map the fixes: clearer roles, gentle involvement, and real aftercare. Power exchange, chastity, and trust reshape what intimacy looks like without traditional PIV sex.
Also discussed:
• vetting bulls and filtering poor etiquette
• feeling overwhelmed without jealousy and stepping back
• missed aftercare and how to repair it
• power exchange dynamics and reward releases
• redefining intimacy without PIV sex
• planning involvement and soft landings next time

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SPEAKER_00:

Here's a look at what's coming up on the show.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, oh yeah. It's like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But you guys still have PIV sex, right? Still have dick and pussy sex.

SPEAKER_02:

No, oh no. I haven't had that in probably two years.

SPEAKER_00:

Really?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, but you were talking about like reclamation sex after the black guy. Was is that that's off the table now? You guys don't that's not an option.

SPEAKER_02:

No, that uh well I meant looking clear.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. So clue Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Is that not allowed?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh no, no, that's definitely allowed.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, because I'm real hunger afterwards.

SPEAKER_00:

Real hungry. This is the Venus Cuckolders Podcast, a place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious, for the passionate, and for the sexually empowered woman who wants it all.

SPEAKER_01:

Let's go.

SPEAKER_00:

Welcome to the show. I'm your host, Venus. Thanks for joining me today. I have a guy named Zach who's gonna share his story today. And holy shit, it's actually a very surprising story because I did not realize how kinky they were until like halfway through the conversation. Anyway, it's such a great story about getting cucked for your first time by a beautiful black bull and what that was actually really like for this newbie couple. So it's a great, interesting story. I think you really like it. Um, but first before we get into it, um, I recently did a live chat in the Queen's Quarters community, and the topic was how to get your wife into interracial cuckolding. And so, if this is a desire that you have, what are some tips? What's some advice about how do you actually make this happen? And you know, what what do you what kinds of things do you need to think about and how do you approach that? And so I was um joined by Anne Cuckoldress and uh Crystal Welch, and it was such a great conversation, even though it was a live event, it was recorded, and the recordings are available for replay to my podcast supporters. So any tier, there's two tiers, and both get access to any of the live um event replays that happen in the Queen's Quarters community. So if you missed that chat and you are wanting to watch it, you just need to become a supporter of the podcast. And in doing so, you help me um be able to keep doing these shows. So thank you for that. And there's of course lots of other perks as well. Um, and then also I just did one of my weekly live hangouts with my Helpful Cut group, and I do this every week. I sit down with them and we have such a fun little chat together. It's about an hour long, and um I wanted to update them on my weekend recently. Recently, I went on a trip. I went to go see um my one of my favorite bulls, Mo from San Diego, and it was his birthday weekend, and fuck me, I had such a great time. It was so awesome. So, anyway, I I wanted to uh make sure I told my Helpful Cut group group all about it. And so that Helpful Cut group is a small group of supporters, it's uh the top-tier supporter tier, and they get weekly live hangouts, they get also get monthly private chats with me, one-on-one private chats with me, and access to the Snapchat group, the private Snapchat group, as well as all of the other um benefits as well, such as access to all of the library of bonus episodes. Then I think there's like a hundred episodes, there is something ridiculous in there. So, anyway, if you want to support the show, I would greatly appreciate it. You can go to Venuscuckled.com and click on the fanhub tab to learn more. Also, go to Venuscuckledris.com and keep an eye on the events page because I'll be posting the next uh Pillow Talk live event that'll be coming up soon. So make sure you check that. Okay, that's it for announcements. Let's jump into the show today. Here we go. Joining me on the show, I have a guest named Zach, and he's gonna be talking about his story as a cuck. Zach, welcome to the show. I'm happy to have you here. Say hello to all the listeners.

SPEAKER_02:

Hi, thank you, Venus. Hey guys.

SPEAKER_00:

Now, I put a call out on social media. I think it was on Instagram and Blue Sky. I tried to post it on uh Reddit, but Reddit moderators blocked it. They like removed it. I'm like, fuckers. Anyway, uh, so I put a post out there saying that I would really like to find a guest who's gonna talk about how post nut regret or post nut clarity has affected his uh cuck holding fantasies or reality experiences, that sort of thing. And Zach, you were one of the first people to respond. Actually, I think it was your wife who who responded and was like, you need to talk to my husband. So I can't wait to get into this with you. Thank you so much for for joining the show today. Um, we're gonna talk about all of that, but first let's start about, let's just start with your your story about how you got into cuckolding, what that relationship looks like, where you guys are at today with it.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh Venus is kind of a weird, weird scenario. Um I've always been like a guy's guy and like a player. Always had you know a ton of girlfriends, blah blah blah. I finally settled down and I found the one, and I was like, man, she needs more, she needs more. And uh it took a lot of conversations, a lot of hard talks, a lot of your podcasts for being honest, a lot of your podcast, and she's like, Is this what you really want? I'm like, I can't explain it. It's just it's something I want to give to you, and and she's like, What do you want in return? She's thinking, girls or you know, three sums of girls. Yeah, no, none of that. No, I'm just I just want you to feel like a princess and then come home and the house be clean and like you're just happy. That's all I want. And she's like, This is weird. I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah, and the whole time she's like, What's the catch? What's the catch? I'm like, there is no catch. And uh, so how I gotta turn on to it. We we we did a lot of podcasts, a lot of sex books. Thank you, Amazon, for all your porn. Um honestly, it was the podcast hearing her listen to the other people and the husbands and the wives, and everyone has the same idea. It it just it just worked. And um, that's kind of how we got into it. And before we got into it, she was like, Okay, well, let's post some pictures. So we started doing like a Tinder profile and then OnlyFans and then like a fat life thing, and that kind of eased her into it. And she's like, Wow, there's a lot of comments. I'm like, Yeah, I told you you're hot. That's kind of why I married you. And she's like, Yeah, but what do you want? I'm like, I just want you to be happy. And she's like, This is so weird, and it's it's so funny. Just like literally three days ago, I went down to her for like 20 minutes and I stopped. And she was like, that was amazing. And she was like, What do you want in return? I'm like, nothing. As long as you're happy, I'm happy. Like that, your happiness brings me to so much pleasure, I can't even explain it. It's such it's such a big feeling. So, anyways, for about we've been together eight years now. So, like the first three or four years, it was a lot of social media, pictures, fet life, and just talking. And uh then it kind of got to the point where it's like, okay, we're gonna have to do this, and then it came down to finding a bull, and that's a hard thing to do. Yeah, it's like you have this guy that you picture that's polite and does the right things and makes the right moves. It's so hard to find. So hard to find. You know, you got the big guy with the big muscles, and he's got the tiny dick, or you got the guy with a huge slung, and he can't even keep a conversation or know what wine to order at dinner, you know. So it's it it's a struggle. So uh my thought was let's go to a swingers club. Never been there. As soon as we posted our pictures, we start getting hit. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Half of them, I'm like, I want to throw up. Like, I I can do this. Like, I am a white male, I'm very attractive, I have a six pack, I work a labor job, I'm very good looking. I don't have a small dick, I have a seven-inch dick. To me, that feels small, you know, but but it's not I know my worth, okay. And then we start getting these hits, and it's like gross, gross, gross, gross, gross. And this one black guy creeps through, just so smooth, so smooth, and he was like, We need a link up. I show the pictures, and she's like, Well, fuck, he's really fit, and she's like, Well fuck, I'm 30. He's like 22. I'm like, I I understand that. Like, he still wants to hook up, and she's like, How do you send some more pictures? Send some more pictures. She's like, Okay, I'm down. So then it's like, are we going to the club or are we just gonna hook up? Yeah, and her thought is, let's just go to the club, have a good time. I'm like, no, no, no, no, honey. You're gonna see these nasty people, and you're gonna be like so grossed out. How about I just get a hotel room that's super fancy, make it spectacular, and you enjoy your time. And she's like, What are you gonna do? I'm like, I'm gonna watch you. So that's what we did. And uh we matched this back and forth, and uh, we get a hotel room, and it was awesome, super awesome hotel. I'd want to tell you where it is, but it would tell you where I live. It's amazing, it's like literally people can hear you walking around the thing. It is it is spectacular. It for her first experience, it was probably the best thing ever. And uh, so we got up there and I did my thing. Uh I figured ready, helps her with the lingerie, she gets all dolled up, it's perfect, perfect, perfect. Looks awesome between stockings and everything else. Amazing. Um knocks on the door, my heart drops. I'm like, oh fuck, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. He comes in, and uh, she's blindfolded. She wanted to be blindfolded for some reason. That was her thing. I don't know why. But uh I felt like that was kind of like part of her thinking she wasn't cheating, which I kept telling her it wasn't, but that was like her way of like you know, I don't know. So he walks him, I start going down on her, get her nice and ready, and I pull back, and he moves in, and it's just like a whole different thing after that. It's stuff I've never seen. I didn't know her toes could curl that way. Like, yeah, and like, bro, you've been here like five minutes, and it was just oh, I mean he left a hand print in her ass for probably three days. Oh shit, yes, and and I think the best position was probably missionary because he was just going down and her toes I've never seen like that. Her nails on the back of his back just oh my god, it was intense.

SPEAKER_00:

So, what were you doing this time? You were sitting there watching, were you like jerking off, or were you just sitting there? Like, what were you doing?

SPEAKER_02:

So, right before you came in, I said, I'm gonna get horny as fuck. I said, I have to put the cage on. And she said, Okay, okay, so put the cage on. And I watched for probably 20 minutes, and then I realized this was gonna take a long time. This guy was not gonna finish anytime soon. So I I I just had to step back, it was too much. It it and it wasn't I wasn't angry, it was just like it was a lot, it was a lot to take in. It was a lot of like, wow, she's never experienced this before. Like she's doing things and saying things she's never done before. So I just I kind of walked back towards the back of the hotel, and I just I kind of gave myself some time. And then I turn back around and she's taking the con him off, and it's just all in her mouth, everything. Like oh, he came in her mouth. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, oh, yes, and that was it, and it was uh did she snowball it into your mouth?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh yes, I knew it.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, and you still hadn't jerked off by that point. You're still like super horny, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Correct. Okay, so but then but it's the same thing I've all experienced. Once she's done, she's done. So like after the snowball, it's like she's like, I'm tired, I've had to get doled up, drive out here, it's been three hours, I'm tired. Yeah, so like we we we didn't have a good reclaiming part of it. Okay, and it's been some time, but then it's been like she starts seeing these signs, like where if she lets me do a couple things for her, and like if she wants to do this, she's like, Wow, this is much happier. So uh that's kind of where we're at. We're kind of like on the rink, she's not all in her biggest downfall. Oh, I say this, she likes white guys, but as soon as they get into the bedroom, she hates white guys. And I'm like, well, I don't know what you want me to say about that. She's like, they're all weird. I'm like, I know. Like, like, no, like you don't want to meet their mom. Like, you just want to get dicked down. Like, it's such a weird thing. The black guards are like, hey, just want to look out, like, let's do it. Like, hey, let's just, yeah. Like, no, like, no connections. I'm worried when this white guy, she's like, Oh, we're gonna go to Kinston Garden Mara, or some weird shit. Like, it's it's so awkward. The black guys are just so smooth, just like and her biggest fear is she's like, Once I do this, I'll be addicted. I'm like, well, okay, do it.

SPEAKER_00:

So I've yeah, I've heard that before uh from women in that they're very scared that it will be so good and so fun and so great that it will be a detrimental to their relationship. And that's valid. That is valid because for a lot of women, this feels like the non-monogamy part feels like playing with fire. Like, yes, it's fun and it's thrilling, and it's all of those things, but at what point do you get burned? You must get burned if you're playing with fire. So I understand that. Was that originally what what was her biggest fear? Or like in the beginning, when you when you said, you know, you guys started really slowly just with with um pictures and stuff like that. Was that her setting the pace? Or were you like ready to dive in with the green light?

SPEAKER_02:

I've always been ready to dive in. I I think the biggest issue is uh, and it's hard to explain. Uh at one point she's saying for her to have sex with someone, she needs like a connection, like a vibe, yeah, like this thing. But then once she has a black dick in front of her, she doesn't care. She blindfolded. So it's like so it's very confusing. So I don't know that that's my answer, Vienna. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, I'm assuming you guys have had a lot of conversations over the years about her, you know, the concerns that she has, the fears that she may have. And I'm assuming with all of these steps that you've taken to sort of get to where you are right now, there's been conversations around that. Uh, how do you navigate that together? How do you guys, is it just a matter of setting boundaries and limits and rules in order to feel safe with the level of risk in each step that you take, or what's it been like for you?

SPEAKER_02:

You know, honestly, it's kind of been like I pushed the first one and she she went through with it and she loved it. But uh it's like I think she's wanting more of a boy boyfriend experience, like she's wanting more, I don't know how to explain it. She's wanting more like connection and maybe more than just a one-time thing.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. And how does that make you feel when she's saying she wants that?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, that doesn't bar me at all. That's no, that's that's all good.

SPEAKER_00:

Is there any part of you that's scared that she will like fall in love with somebody else?

SPEAKER_02:

Um no, no, it's because at the end of the day, she's mine. Yeah, um, yeah, he may make her come better or this or that, or make her pussy wet, but I'm there every day. I take care of the kids, I do the work, I uh I make sure she's got everything taken care of, and that's not something a bull's gonna do. That's the difference between a cuck and a bull. Yeah, a bull's gonna get his, he's gonna get his, he's gonna get what he wants, but you can't. I don't think you can have both. Because I'm so focused on her, like at all times. So uh, no, that doesn't worry me. It worries her, and maybe I should worry about that, but I guess I don't. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh you mentioned that like when she was, when you guys had your first cuck holding experience where she had this black bull and she was blindfolded, and this guy was gonna fuck for hours. Um, that it was overwhelming for you at a certain point when it felt like the first 20 minutes had gone by and you were like, oh god, this is you know, not gonna end anytime soon. You mentioned that you had just kind of had to pull back a little bit and collect your thoughts. What was going through your mind at that time?

SPEAKER_02:

Um, it was just like, wow, how can you keep going? Like, it's just going and going and going. But what I've come to realize is I'm like hyper sexualized by her. Like, she really turns me on. So, like, I get it why I come so fast. Like, I honey, four hours? That's that's a bit much. Like, let's go for 15 minutes. Like, it's but I saw in that evening the legs shake, everything trembling, the things she said, never with me, never ever, ever, but that's okay. And I I'm accepting that, and that's that's a hard thing to do, it really is, to just man up and be like, hey, this is what it is.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, no, absolutely. I agree with you on that. So, you guys didn't really have a plan for aftercare. You talked about the re reclaiming that that didn't happen because she was tired. But did you guys discuss anything like this is what we should do after to reconnect or anything like that? Or you're just gonna we're so focused on her fucking this other dude that you hadn't thought about it.

SPEAKER_02:

We hadn't thought about it. Yeah, and that was that was that was the the downfall.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And that was that was on me.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm not surprised. So many guys get so focused on the her fucking the other dude that forget about everything afterwards. That's also important.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I'm also I'm I'm a little ashamed because like I done my research, I know what to do. Uh a lot of it, like I think a part of it was this guy was so focused on just banging her clit that he didn't give a shit about anything else. I think if there was a little I think she wanted some interaction and I could have been more of a cuck in that moment, because that's kind of my thing. I I definitely am a cuck. I would have done some stuff, like you know, licking it while he's fucking her or whatever. It was total like no off done. So I I guess I didn't know how to reconnect after that. Okay. Like if you would have involved me just just a smidge, just a smidge, I could have kind of worked it a little bit, but uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And so afterwards, you were all right, you were horny, she was spent, she was like, I'm tired, and you're just all worked up because you've you know been in chastity for that whole time. At what point did you get a release, or did you?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, I didn't until we got home.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. Was it amazing when you finally did come?

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, but I came while they were playing around. So like I already got my release. Wait, what?

SPEAKER_00:

You came when you were in your cage?

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, just watching them.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, that's so awesome. It was like dribbling out.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh it was spewing, it wasn't dribbling.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh shit. So you're good. So do okay, but posting that regret, did you did it make you feel different after? Or was that at the 20-minute mark where you were like, damn, like no?

SPEAKER_02:

I I honestly like uh I loved every moment of it. I get I just I do I wish for a little more interaction just to have that connection, and nothing in like a buy away or anything like that, just just something to where like the cuts involved. Lick this, do that, you know. Right. Little little more something.

SPEAKER_00:

But that was not something that you guys discussed in advance where you were like, This is what I think I would like.

SPEAKER_02:

I'll be honest, she was a trooper. Uh, we didn't discuss anything. She was like, just find a black guy, let's do it. I'm like, okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, so a lot a lot could have gone wrong there, but it seemed like it happened, it fluked out. You guys did good, it worked out okay. Just wasn't like the best that it could have been.

SPEAKER_02:

Correct. Okay, correct. Um, it's just me complaining. Yeah, she was very happy.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, and so you've kind of fluked out. You found that one guy. Are you guys gonna see him again? Like, what happened to him? He seemed like he was pretty good.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, he deleted his Fet Life account, we can't find him again. So uh, and uh we're trying, we're working on Fet Life. Man, there's a lot of creeps over there, though.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_02:

And it and that's the hardest part about cuckolding. Like, you've loved this person so much, you cherish them, you literally worship them, you think they're pussies like the best thing ever. You don't want no gross shit. Like, yeah, it's that's tough.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean, that's probably one of the biggest complaints I hear uh from people across, you know, everywhere in the last decade. I've heard it a gazillion times about how difficult it is to find the right kind of bull that people are looking for. So I get it. Um I think it is a lot to ask from a complete stranger that you know you want them to check off your laundry list of wants, desires, and needs and stuff like that. Um, and it's you know, it is it's when somebody who's just you know looking to do this for fun, so who knows whatever happened to him. I wonder if he like got a girlfriend and monogamous and had to, you know, delete it all. Who the fuck knows? That's too bad. You guys had something good and then you lost him.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh no, I know. Uh uh drives me nuts.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. But she's good with doing it again, like she wants to do this again.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh yes. So she's so down. No, yeah, she's back on Fat Life, posting pictures. She's she's ready to go. Okay. She had yeah, I think she had to go through a period of like realizing I'm not gonna get mad.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

But uh, she's good. It's just uh she she wants the right guy, which I get.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. And so it's almost well, were you were you the one who was like, oh, why don't you look for black guys, or was that something that was like her idea?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, it was my idea. It's gonna sound terrible. We did attend her, and it was a bunch of white guys, and she was like, Oh, they're all weird. She doesn't want someone to call her mommy, she just wants dig down.

SPEAKER_00:

Do the white guys call her mommy?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

What?

SPEAKER_02:

Like she like she just wants some guy to manhandle her, take her pussy, and make her a squirt.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And it's like, where's the button for that? I don't know where that is on Tinder. It's not. Oh, well, it's funny.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Um, my own experiences of looking for black guys on Tinder uh has been really shitty.

SPEAKER_01:

Like, not yeah, yeah, not great.

SPEAKER_00:

Although I've not had a lot of luck with Fet Life either. Um, so I don't really know that there's a great spot to be able to find somebody. Um, you kind of like have to just lead through the sea of shit out there.

SPEAKER_02:

Like you're the sea of shit. Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

The boys calling you mommy and like the fucking weirdness and like yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, well, I feel for you on that part of it. But um, so it's does she have an interest in black guys now? Like I saw, I think I saw on her Fet Life that she's wears like Queen of Spades stuff. Is that just for like fun or is she really invested in that?

SPEAKER_02:

Well no, she's invested, but but like okay, she's totally invested, but that she's also like really on point. She's like, no socks, the socks can't be open.

SPEAKER_00:

I feel you. Oh my god, I feel you.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh she's like, why is this so hard? I'm like, I don't know. I I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

I I don't understand it. And I know a lot of you guys listening right now, uh, you know this about me. I fucking can't stand it when guys keep their socks on. Like your wife doesn't. Took three hours to get ready, shaving half her body, putting on the most beautiful, expensive lingerie. Thank you. Perfume and makeup, mean lashes, getting her hair done, getting her nails done, her pedicure done, doing all of this shit. Do you think that she's gonna put leave her socks on? Her fucking tennis socks? Oh my, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02:

Yes. Thank you. Literally, this weekend she's getting her hair and nails done. It's like$900.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And she's like, all these guys are with their socks. I'm like.

SPEAKER_00:

I know the effort is so ridiculous. All you have to do is wear some decent underwear, not shit with holes in it, and take your fucking socks off. Like, I don't understand.

SPEAKER_02:

That's her only thing with the black eyes. She's like, the socks. The socks.

SPEAKER_00:

I know. And they're like, but my feet get cold. Like, uh, hello. Like, my feet get cold. I don't give a f. I'm like, you don't see me with my fucking Nike socks on. Like, like, what? Yeah, I don't, I don't understand that. I never will. And I think it just but every time I see it in porn, um, especially amateur porn, I'm just like, for fuck's sakes, take the fucking socks off. I've even seen guys with their leave their shoes on, they're completely butt naked except for their socks and their shoes. They're like, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_02:

Yes. What what is that? Like the little slip slantel things? What what is that? That's that is crazy.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, I I kind of think it's hot if like a woman keeps like her beautiful stilettos on when she's getting fucked, because like we all want to see that, those feet in the air. Anyway, I wanted to ask you about chastity. So was that your idea where you did you bring that up to her? And I'm what was her reaction in the beginning? And what is how does she feel about it now?

SPEAKER_02:

Um, it was my idea in the beginning. Uh, but then once I did it, she loved it. And I became so like, I don't know the word is just like wanting to please her. She loved it. And we've done it ever since.

SPEAKER_00:

So how long does she keep you locked for?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, all the time.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, all the time. But she must unlock you sometimes.

SPEAKER_01:

No.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh shit. Oh, you guys just like went full on, like wow.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. It's like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But you guys still have PIV sex, right? Still have dick and pussy sex.

SPEAKER_02:

No, oh no. I haven't had that in probably two years.

SPEAKER_00:

Really?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, but you were talking about like reclamation sex after the black guy. Was is that that's off the table now? You guys don't that's not an option.

SPEAKER_02:

No, that uh well, I meant licking her.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh uh. Is that not allowed?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh no, no, that that's definitely allowed.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, because I because I'm real hungier afterwards.

SPEAKER_00:

Real hungry. She's just looking at me, honey. I don't need to sit on your face. Yeah. Okay, so two years you haven't had PIV sex. So, okay, answer the fuck this question for me because I have so many people think that if you stop having PIV sex as a married couple, that that is the sign of something really wrong in your relationship. Like things have to eventually go sour between the two of you. What are your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_02:

My thoughts are she came home, I think it was Monday or Tuesday. Bad day, just work sucked, pissed off. She sat down. I looked at her pussy for like 30 minutes, just nonstop, just going at it. And she's like, that's the best thing ever.

SPEAKER_00:

Love it. So she's sat happy, satisfied, fulfilled. And you, I'm assuming, are too. Do you feel like you're missing out?

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I I feel like I'm missing out, but like that's kind of the part of the kink.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So no, I'm I'm good. I'm good.

SPEAKER_00:

So are you allowed to like jerk off once in a while? Or like how do you get a release? She pegs you?

SPEAKER_02:

I only do that. She doesn't like that. Uh she no, not it's too much work on her part. So she's like, no. She's never tried it. Uh we did it once. She just, she's just like, this is a lot of work. She's like, I'm a mistress. You should worship me. I'm like, okay, well, well fucking shit.

SPEAKER_00:

So so how often do you get a release? How do you get a release?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh like cleaning or doing chores.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. So as a reward.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, correct.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. And that'll just be you allowed to jerk off, or does like she jerk you off or something? Like, how does that work?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh no, it's me jerking off. Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. So I think I kind of figured out the stuff. So she is really into the power exchange. She's really into like some real femdomy parts of the relationship. But she's not fully signed in to the cuckolding part yet.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh she's getting there, and it's gonna be there. It's just it's just a matter of time.

SPEAKER_00:

So the next time that you guys do find a suitable bull and one that works for both of you, having like known what the first time was like, what would you do differently this next time around?

SPEAKER_02:

I would just like to be involved. Okay. He was very controlling, it was all about him. I would just like to be there.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

And that's what she wants to. Yeah. He was just very like into like it's just me. And uh she wants me involved.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Even just a smudge.

SPEAKER_00:

And what about aftercare? Would you guys make a point of building that in?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, that's gonna require her taking cage off.

SPEAKER_00:

So if you want to email her about that, doesn't doesn't necessarily require that. It doesn't necessarily mean that it's reclamation sex. The aftercare part, right, can be a many different things.

SPEAKER_01:

Very true. Very true.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. And even just like cleaning up or just, you know, licking her swollen pussy afterwards, or helping her apply an ice pack to her beat up pussy. I mean it's very loving, tender just gesture. But you could also, there's cuddling, there's like the little um pillow talk afterwards that is part of can be part of aftercares, whatever works for you guys, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly. No, I love that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. Before we wrap this up, is there are there any, is there any kind of like advice, any tips, suggestions, any lessons learned that you or last thoughts that you would like to share with the listeners?

SPEAKER_02:

I'll say yes. It's uh give your wife time. She'll get there. You can't, you can't force it. You just have to let her do it. Let her be her own person. The more you force it, the more she'll resist. Just let her be your person. Make her happy, make her feel magical. It'll happen in in due time.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's a big mistake that I see a lot of guys make. And then you see you you I'm sure you come across them online all the time. Guys looking for advice. How do I get my wife to do this? I need to convince her, I need to make this happen, how do I trick her into it, all of that sort of stuff? And they're just so eager and so ready to dive right in headfirst, and she and she's just not there. And yeah, you're right. The more that you push it, the more you try to force it, the worse it's gonna turn out. So very good advice indeed. Um, all right. Where can people find either you or your wife online to connect? Do you have any links that you would like to share?

SPEAKER_01:

I do. It's uh Brooke 1992 on Fell Life.

SPEAKER_00:

Perfect. Okay, I'll put a link to that in the show notes for today as well. Um, Zach, thank you so much for joining me on the show. It's been so fun to hear your story. I loved the parts that you're talking about with your BBC cuckolding part. That was the best. It has been so fun to talk to you and get to know you. So thank you so much for being on the show and sharing your story.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, thank you, Venus. Have a great time.

SPEAKER_00:

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