The Venus Cuckoldress Podcast

Cuckolding Your Husband With a Woman

• Venus / BlondeOnTheBay • Season 5 • Episode 23

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What if the bull isn’t a man? Blondie (BlondeOnTheBay) joins Venus to take on a listener’s question about whether a wife can cuck her husband with a woman—and why that twist can be both safer and, in surprising ways, more intense. Together they dig into the psychology that makes cuckolding tick: agency, power imbalance, and the thrill of watching someone you love receive pleasure on her terms.

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This is the Venus Cuckolders Podcast, a place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious, for the passionate, and for the sexually empowered woman who wants it all.

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SPEAKER_04:

Welcome to the show. I'm your host, Venus. Thanks for joining me today. And today is such an interesting topic. I have Blonde on the bay joining me to tackle this listener question about can your wife cuck you with a woman? How does that work? What does that look like? How can you make that happen? And is it the same kind of experience that you'd be hoping to have if she was cucking you with a guy? So we're going to talk all about this subject. And we are also going to be talking about it in the next live pillow talk event in the Queen's Quarters community. It is free to join us live. And that'll be Tuesday, November 25th at 6 p.m. Pacific time. That's 9 p.m. Eastern time. If you can't make it for the live show, then you can listen to or the replay or watch the replay. If you are belong to one of the two fan tiers that I have that support the podcast, so if you want to sign up for that, you can go to VenusCuckledjist.com and click on the fan tier link. It's also in the the link is in the show notes for today's episode as well. So definitely make sure you catch us for the pillow talk event. That's going to be really fun. We'll be talking about this subject, taking questions. You can join in on the conversation. It'll be a lot of fun. If you want to sign up to register for this pillow talk, just go to Venuscockulgis.com and click on the events page. The uh second announcement that I have is a reminder that if you're used to listening to this podcast on YouTube, big warning. Yeah, I'm likely gonna get canceled. I am one strike away from being removed altogether on YouTube. So if you're one of the 13,000 people that subscribes to this show on that platform, you're probably gonna want to start listening somewhere else. So you can find this show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, or you can listen in uh at VenusCacklegis.com, just click on the podcast tab because yeah, this show's been a little bit too spicy for uh YouTube and um they don't like it. So they're gonna take me down any day now. Um okay, and then last but not least for announcements. If you would like to have a private chat with me, I really do enjoy doing these private chats. They are not wank chats though, just a heads up. These are for you to share a story, ask questions, seek advice, just have a nice little chat with me about whatever you want, as long as you know it's respectful, then I would love to do that with you. I really do enjoy doing doing these private chats with people. Um, if you want to sign up for a private chat, you can. And right now there's a Black Friday discount because it's my favorite time of year. Even though here in Canada we do our Thanksgiving in October, I still think anything black related is awesome. So I'm doing a Black Friday discount for my private chats. You can get 20% off one of the private chats if you enter the promo code VenusBLAC at the checkout. So that's promo code VenusBLAC, and just go to VenusCucklegis.com, click on the private chat link, and you'll be able to uh purchase a private chat and schedule it in there. All right, that's it for announcements. Uh I just have one quick little message from my friend, and then we'll get jumping in right into this show for today.

SPEAKER_01:

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SPEAKER_00:

Hello, Venus. I just wanted to ask you a question here on your podcast today. Me and my wife have been married coming up on three years now and dating about six. We have always enjoyed a variety of kinks that I had brought in and educated her around, mostly chastity, foot fetish, uh fem dom relationship type things. And just recently I had let her know that some of this uh cuck holding uh material has been turning me on. Um we ended up having a small talk about it, and she said she's not really comfortable with another man right now, which I completely understand. Um she sees the penetration between me and her as something really special, and she thinks it's kind of a turning point to where she wouldn't be able to say, I'm the only man she's ever slept with after she's been married. Um but what she did say is she's interested in experimenting with another girl I watch, and I thought that was very interesting. I did find that very much of a turn on, and not really something that I had ever really thought of up until that point. Um I just wanted to get your opinions on what I would call lesbian cuckolding, um, your opinions on that dynamic and maybe possibly some advice. This would be her first time with another female, as well as my first time being cuckolded, as well as either of our first times with anyone in the bed. So we're trying to take things real slow, just kind of chit-chat other couples right now and uh play the waters. But yeah, I've been listening to your podcast. We both have, find it very interesting. And um yeah, I just looked up and thought I would send you a voice message here to kind of explain our dynamic a little bit. Um I appreciate any insight or response I get from that, if any. And um, yeah, I appreciate it. You have a great day.

SPEAKER_04:

Joining me on the show to talk about this question that I've received from a listener is Blonde on the Bay, my fellow Canadian cuckledress friend. Welcome to the show, Blonde.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, thank you so much for having me here. I always love chatting with you.

SPEAKER_04:

Yes, you've been on the on the show at least once before, I know that, uh, where we talked about um when I first met you in Las Vegas. It was so fun. It was such a great party. So welcome back and happy to have you on today. Thank you. This is such a great topic to talk about today because like I don't think I've actually talked about this on the podcast before, but I remember way back when uh oh, there was this was years ago. I did, I was a guest on somebody's podcast and it was a swingers podcast. And they they really didn't know much at all about cuckolding. And so I told them about like, you know, this is about your wife sleeping with somebody else and your husband potentially watching or hearing about it after or whatever. And they were like, oh, well, I they come from the swingers, where they're like, oh, I wonder if that means that I've cucked my husband because I've slept with other women. I've had these experiences with other women. And I was like, my immediate reaction was like, I don't think that's the same, but um it really caught me thinking because I was like, why is it not the same? But could it be the same? I was just like, wow, my my mind was like bending. I was like, really having to try to think about this. So I'm so happy to explore this with you today. This listener said he's been um married to his wife for three years and that they've been together for six years, and that they he's introduced her to some kinky stuff like chastity, foot fetish stuff, and femme dom. So that was I'm really glad that he gave that background because that gives some um information about, you know, perhaps how could this could work for them. Um, but interesting that she said she's not comfortable sleeping with another guy. And I think that's pretty common with a lot of these wives, where their husband brings up this fantasy and is like, I really want you to fuck these other dudes. And she's like, no, hard pass, like I don't want to do that. But maybe if she's bi curious or has bisexual past or whatever, that she might want to do that with a woman. So how what would this look like and how would that actually work? So let's dive into this. Um, so Blondie, you were you said that you you are you've heard of this before, and like is that right?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I have. Um, I I have heard about it of a guy that I listened to on another podcast who he his wife has a girlfriend. And and he's a cuck, he's a you know hardcore cuck and it's all within gentlemen that her that his wife was with. But then he sort of decided, you know, he met with women and they formed an actual relationship and the girlfriend would come over and hang out, watch movies with them, and then you know, those girls the women would go into their bedroom and enjoy their time and he would sit and listen and and you know, it is it's it it may not be another man, but I mean in the lifestyle we often also explore younger fluidity too, right? And different dynamics that way. Um at least most some of all those feelings. Maybe not all of them. It's kind of different thinking about you know, a big hard, black cock driving into your life as opposed to a gorgeous woman eating rug. Right, right, right. Both are equal both can be equal turn-on. But I guess the aim there is different.

SPEAKER_04:

Right. And that's what I was kind of assuming.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. But I think I mean it all depends on your comfort level, where you are in your lifestyle journey, where you are in your dynamic. And I've always said there's no wrong way to do cuck holding as long as you're both on the same page and you're both doing it consensually.

SPEAKER_04:

Ah, I agree. I think in the beginning, when I first first learning about cuckolding, I was really trying to sort it all out in my brain. And in doing so, I was really kind of trying to compartmentalize everything so that it made sense. And in doing so, I I think I mistakenly kind of was gatekeeping the cuckold label and saying, well, this is cuckolding, but that doesn't seem like it is. And I just over the years have learned like you can do it this however the fuck you want. It's all it's all valid, it's all fun, just because it doesn't look like your typical typical cuckold script, who gives a flying fuck? Okay, if you're having fun doing it and you're both getting off and enjoying it, it doesn't really matter at all what it looks like. So if anybody does want to have a female bull, uh then go fucking go for it. I mean, who gives a fuck?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I mean, it's like people saying, Oh, well, you're not a true cuck if you aren't in a cage. Right. Oh, you you aren't a true cuck if she isn't pegging you. Oh, you aren't a true cuck if you don't suck dick or take it. Right. You know, like those things are all those are all things at the buffet table. Yeah. And anybody in the lifestyle can try any of those things. Yes. It doesn't make you something. It just means that's a cake that you're interested in and then you want to try it. Maybe you enjoy it, maybe you don't.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, that's absolutely it. Um, I agree, definitely. But what we're talking about, like what would like would would it be the same? I feel like it would be slightly different, probably, because so much of the cuckled fantasy, if not nearly all of it, goddammit, is has to do with PIV sex, penis and vagina sex. About and the whole breeding thing, the whole like her with another guy, her taking a dick that's not yours, basically. Yeah, and that's what it revolves around. I mean, that is like the center of the universe for all cuckolding fantasies, basically. I mean, I that's a generalization, but like uh that's the base of every script, pretty much, that you see out there is that she's sleeping with another guy and it has everything to do with dick and pussy sex. Um, but so how would that work if this is a woman? Obviously, it's not dick and pussy sex, unless maybe she's wearing a big strap on and she fucks her, like that's a possibility.

SPEAKER_02:

I kind of think that maybe because they are starting out, this is a good stepping stone. Yeah, it's a good way for them to experience a third person coming into their relationship and seeing how that feels. I mean, we all know we we don't we don't stay in the place where we started.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

anywhere in life. And especially in the lifestyle, we all start somewhere. But if you ask somebody ten years later where they are and where they started, there's a smile between the starting and and the current current thought.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

We all start we all have to start somewhere.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes.

SPEAKER_02:

And it's a it's a you know, it's a it sounds like it's a safe case for her. Or she that she thinks.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, because uh, you know, probably doesn't feel like she's really cheating on her husband if it's a with a woman. Um exactly. And let's face it, yeah, yeah, yeah. The whole non-monogamy thing can can be a huge barrier for lots of women, and I get it. Like I totally get it. A lot of women have this idea that you know it really means something if you are physically with another guy other than your husband, that there's some shame around that, which uh yeah, which is crazy. But I get that a lot of women really buy into that. Um, but yeah, but let's face it, sex with women is probably a whole lot safer. You're not gonna probably not gonna have your drink spiked, you're not gonna have a threat of violence. Like, just probably not gonna try to steal your man, and you know, like not gonna try to steal you away from your man and like right, it's just it's soft, it's sensual. This is women. Plus, okay, so so get this. I was thinking about this, and like, oh my god. Okay, so the whole fan, a lot of the whole fantasy that cucks have is um her getting better sex with somebody more capable, a guy who's more capable, who's a bigger dick, give her more orgasms and all that sort of stuff, right? Like this is how guys cucks think. This is the thing that really turns them on, gives them the most angst and everything like that, right? Gives them such a boner. Um but if you look at the orgasm gap, oh you guys, all the boys listening right now, you're not gonna want to hear this. But if you learn about the orgasm gap, you will learn that heterosexual women have like the lowest rates for consistent orgasms when it comes to PIV sex. Absolutely fucking rock bottom lowest. Whereas guys have like 95% regular orgasms from sex, okay? Hetero guys, okay, right? But lesbian sex there is no orgasm gap with lesbian sex. I'm for real. They are consistently having lots of orgasms. Why? Because they have this more egalitarian approach to sex and orgasms, where it's not just about them, it's about them and their partner. And not only that, but the statistic, the research shows that it is way more, it has way more to do with oral receiving and giving oral um than with heterogues, and that the ex the sexual experiences that women have with other women last far longer than with heterogies. So I and that's no shocker. I mean, when a guy you know comes, it's like it's over, it's done. Whereas women are like, we can keep going. We're just like, all right, let's, yeah, what do we got? What's coming up next? Um, plus, there's like probably a ton of toys to be used with when women are playing with other women, whether it be strap-ons or vibrators or whatever, like there's a ton of stuff. But why? Because it's create it's way more creative than PIV sex. So I think it's for playful too. Absolutely. With women, paced, playful, uh, sensual, all of that.

SPEAKER_02:

We're more comfortable with another woman often than we are with a man in terms of showing our flaws too, right? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, totally. So we're scrunched up on the bed and our tummy has a role in it. We don't care. Yeah. Yeah, my tits are a bit saggy. We're all saggy, we're all wrinkled, we don't care.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, exactly. There's no judgment there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

But I'm I'm wondering, so the point of for for this man with who has brought you this question, his point of view if this situation occurs, he's like giving every heteroman three, almost. And especially if they decide to invite him to join. Now he's got two pussies to eat out. He's got like he's he's kind of being cooked, but it's at the same time he's they've almost slid just into a threesome. Right. Right?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, that is the number one fantasy, sexual fantasy in the United States, according to Dr. Justin Lee Miller, is a threesome. Uh and so yeah, he would be basically getting this like sweet bonus if he's the given the opportunity to join in, which is might his wife might feel good with that, she might feel comfortable with that, or she might not. Because the this couple has a kink, a bit of uh some kink experience. At least he's you know, they've they've been talking about it, especially Fem Dom. This she could actually this wife could actually have fun with this, in that like she would not be lying about the fact that this woman could give her better orgasms than her husband.

SPEAKER_02:

And he's he's not even a guy. Right. Is that not extra humiliating? I mean, that's what I think. Is that it is it doubly humiliating to be cussed by a woman because she doesn't even need a big dick to make you feel vastly inferior. Right, right, right. You can bring your wife to orgasm over and over and over again without missing a beat or getting tired.

SPEAKER_04:

Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_02:

As a husband, you just sit there and go, uh I I have no words. I I I just I just couldn't imagine.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. It's it's probably like at some point, like, I mean, probably if they're starting out, they just wanna, she's probably just gonna want to have some, you know, pretty girl to make out with and stuff like that, and that's fine. But at some point, if they could find a woman who understood the husband's cuck fantasies and really wanted to get into the role of a female bull, oh my god, that actually could be quite fun. I'm not gonna lie. That would be so much fun, right? I could definitely fuck with that. That would actually be so fun. Oh my god. I'd be like, you little bitch, you want this pussy, you can't have it. This her pussy's all mine.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm gonna write that on my bucket list, listed list of things to do.

SPEAKER_04:

I've never really even thought of that before, but I was like, damn, that could actually like be a real thing. If a woman was to want to get really into that, the psychological role of that, that could be a thing. And maybe more wives would be more open to that if they have bicurious um tens tendencies or interests.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, from my experience, at least 80% of the women in LXL are bicurious or biological.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I went through that like 15 years ago, maybe longer.

SPEAKER_02:

I I definitely 10 years ago. Yeah. Last of a year.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I know. I was like, I really want to eat pussy. I really want to do all the things, and I did all the things, and I was like, okay, that's done. Moving on. Oh, what's this cuckolding thing?

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Funny how that works. You were talking about how how every you know, we're who we are as we start in the lifestyle so different from where we are 10 years later. So there's a good example of that, right? Oh, yeah. Um, I mean, yeah, that changed insanely. But I really do uh believe, and I was told this by a medical professional friend of mine, that there's an actual biological reaction that happens in in men's bodies when they think about their wife or partner sleeping with another man, having sex with another man. There's a biological reaction, a flood of hormones. And that's why you hear all the time from guys who say, Oh my God, I thought about this cuckolding scenario with my wife, or I saw this video, or whatever. And I got the most intense erection, the most intense orgasm I've ever had in my life. Like there really is something to biological that happens with guys where I think that's why you have so much um desire, male-led desire in this lifestyle where this is just like pushed so heavily by men. It's because it does affect them in some way that I don't think as women affects us in the same way. Um, so I was wondering like I was wondering like with a female bull, would you have that same reaction? Probably not, I don't think.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't think I don't think so. I think I don't think so. I mean now all you're just watching is your is a girl on girl theme. Yeah, like is it voyeurism now? It's just dominant where man comes in and is dominant over you and your wife. I mean a woman could be, but it's it's still not gonna be the same. Men are just innately weird to be you know more reactive to a male coming in, right? Like they're they they get all often themselves. Um but with a woman they, you know, you oh ha ha, that's cute, you're being a dog.

SPEAKER_03:

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, we kind of get you know patted on the head and told it, you know, oh you're cute. So I yeah, I think it would be an interesting experiment.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. Yeah, I really do. I feel like there could be a lot of fun that could that could be had with this kind of scenario, whether or not it produces the same level of like angst or or you know, cucky angst, or um it's definitely boner material. There's no doubt about that. Like, no matter what, he's gonna enjoy watching his wife with this other woman and just this the the spectacle of two beautiful women together, like the hello, like it's always hot, it's always hot. Yeah, but whether or not he gets that kind of cucky feeling, cucky reaction, I don't know. I really don't know.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I know I I mean I could probably speak for my coxman in that I don't I think he would he would enjoy it, it would be hot to watch, yeah. But it would certainly wouldn't give him the same that same angst that he experiences when there's a a a black gentleman with me. Right.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. Yeah, I think I don't know. But you're right, it is a great place for this couple to start. Absolutely great place for this couple of years.

SPEAKER_02:

We all have to start somewhere.

SPEAKER_04:

Having said that though, if she really is a hard no to fucking other guys, then don't see it as a start. You see this as a the the one and only step, and that's no going further than that.

SPEAKER_02:

Like a negotiate, a compromise ideal. Right, exactly. Once you've got a hard no, the more you push, the further back she's gonna go. Exactly. Yes, you just can't.

SPEAKER_04:

And I do want to say one thing to the wife if she's listen if she listens to this, um, which I hope she does. Um, I know that in your mind there is this like sacred thing of like sex with your husband is, you know, is sacred and blah, blah, blah. Like you, but that, you know, having sex with another guy is it means something that's shameful. I know you probably think that based on what your husband said, but like, let me tell you, girl, this is there is nothing fucking magical about it, okay? It is okay to explore someone else's physical body. It does not mean you fall in love with them, it doesn't mean you love your husband less. It doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with your marriage or you or that you're a slut or that there's any shame in any of that. You're simply enjoying someone else's body just like you're enjoying another woman's body. There is absolutely no fucking difference. Okay. So I'm gonna just say that.

SPEAKER_02:

I yeah, and I and you I can I get where she's coming from. I don't know if you've heard my story of my first time, but I'm happy to share it here.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, go for it, go for it.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, our first time. Um, my husband convinced us convinced me to go to a party in Vancouver. And um the greedy girl party. And I was convinced that okay, fine, we're gonna go to this thing. It's gonna be fine, nobody's gonna want me. I'm gonna prove it to him, and I don't have then the whole topic will be dropped. Right? Yeah. So we go to this party, that is not what happened. Um I was fresh meat kind of deal. And I was looking around and I my husband was great. He said that, and he just let me work the room and flirt and enjoy and fun. And then like, you know, at some point he came up and he said, Okay, are you gonna pick somebody? And I don't know how I don't know, I don't know. I've never done this. I I don't know how I can do this my whole life. I thought in order to have sex with somebody I had to be in love with them. So this is huge. So we we pick a guy who is like super nice all evening, very polite, and we go into a room. First thing we do is I ask him to put on coupon. Which we all know how well that worked. Not he didn't have a hard time, but he took one of them off. And everything's ready. So I lay back on the bed and ha funnily enough, there's like tucked hair right there beside the bed. And my husband sits down and then holding one of my hands, and I I had to take it away because I put both hands over my eye. And I said to this eye, I'm like, just do it. Just do it. So fucking me, um it's feeling amazing, and then I took my hands off my eyes and I'm holding my husband's hand, and we're looking at each other, and he was just looking at my husband's face, and uh he hear amazement and joy and love just radiating out of him. I was like, Oh, okay, because there was always that niggling thing in the back of my mind like we're gonna get in there, this guy's gonna be on top of me. My husband's gonna change his mind and he's gonna move it. Either on the guy or on the isn't what happened. It isn't at all. Um I realized that I could enjoy the physical contact of another person and the different feelings that I got from different things. I didn't have to also I didn't have to lose. It wasn't a trade. I didn't have to trade the love and commitment and amazing relationship I had with my husband in order to have this also amazing sex life. Right. I got to have it I got to have all of it.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

Open it. Like it was amazing. And so like we left that place and you know, we talked after around that, yeah, when can we go back? So once we you know once I put that first foot down, it was it was a steady run to where we are now. It's kind of funny how that happens. But I I feel it's so important because so many women think that like they couldn't have sex with another man now that they married this one and you know it's like it's cheating or it's shameful and it's not. We I can we can tell you that till we're blue in the face until you actually experience it and and see the feeling go through all the little emotion in your husband who you love. You love this man, right? Yes. You want to do something you want to make him happy, but at the same time you don't want to give up so much of yourself that you might destroy your relationship. As long as you have solid communication and you have talked and talked and talked this thing to death and you're holding hands through it and you're supporting each other, then it it's just fantastic.

SPEAKER_04:

Yes, yes. So maybe, maybe if this wife is listening, she might rethink it or just take that into consideration and maybe think uh understand that it is possible to have your cake and eat it too.

SPEAKER_02:

Literally. And I talk to a lot of new couples in the in the lifestyle. I do some mentoring on the side, which is really that gives me my feelings of conversion is you know, talking to new couples and helping them navigate all of the just it's you know, there's a lot out there, there's a lot of misinformation out there. You are you know, I have always felt that your podcast delivers genuine, true, and real information.

SPEAKER_04:

Yay, I hope so. I hope so. That's the goal. You're doing it. Um, one little piece of advice for this couple if they do decide to go down this road and uh and have another woman in the bedroom. Don't forget about the aftercare for any of the couples who are listening who are thinking about doing any kind of cuckolding for real in the real world, real life with real people. Um, that's something that I've learned that over the years that is often not thought about or neglected is the aftercare. And that this can be a very, very, very mentally emotional thing for your husband, the cuck, to go through his very first time getting cucked. And you have to really plan some time together, whether that be talking, cuddling, whatever, um, i afterwards in in order to kind of reconnect. So don't forget about that part. It was often forgotten about.

SPEAKER_02:

That's so important. I'm glad you mentioned that. Yeah. Because it's really easy to still be riding that high and just forget that there's also another person's feelings. Yeah, I know. Because like I'm not riding that I for us riding that high with you. Exactly. You're still like, yeah, where's the next one? Where can I get more dicks? But he's over there going, um, hello.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I that's something I learned over the years was like, this for us women, this is all fun and exciting and thrilling and just like incredible, like the story you just talked about. But we forget where we don't know that our for our partner, this can be a whole range of feelings. It can be really great and cloud nine and all that sort of stuff too. But there can be that crash too, where they're just like, Oh, what have what have I done? Like, is you know, how come I feel so shitty right now?

SPEAKER_02:

So Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a it's a roller coaster, really. So communicate, communicate, communicate. That's talk, talk, talk all the time.

SPEAKER_04:

Um, I think that I think that's all the advice I have for this couple. Is there anything else that you wanted to add in before we wrap this up?

SPEAKER_02:

Um I would um I don't think so. I would just be like I would encourage them to explore, explore, talk, read, listen to lots of different points of view. If something doesn't if if you if you hear something or somebody tells you, oh, this is the way you should do it, and it doesn't feel right to you, like you're like, really, that's what we have to do? Then no, that's not for you. Yeah. There isn't there is no there's no set guidelines, there's no set rules on okay, this is what you have to do in order to be this. Right. You're really exploring and you're really finding out on your own. And you don't have to do it the way anybody else does it. Right. Just be yourself and true to yourself and make sure that you're both enjoying it. And the minute one of you isn't, speak up.

SPEAKER_04:

Yes. Yes, and oh, oh yes, I should say, hubby, don't direct. Don't be the Minnie Spielberg, do not direct the scene. Let your wife do whatever the fuck she wants with this woman.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes. Having and having too many rules, like, oh, you can't touch this and you can't do that. And I mean, talk about a buzzkill, right? Right, right. When you're talking about sex, we all know it comes down to just the way we are, our animal instincts, and you really have to sit back and let both take over.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. Exactly. Especially because this is gonna be her first experience with a woman. She's never been with a woman before. It's gonna be nerve-wracking. I remember my first experience and I was just like, oh, this feels really like I I'm losing my virginity card all over again.

SPEAKER_02:

I was so worried that I was doing it right. But I mean, apparently I did, but I was like, I've only just watched it on porn, so I didn't know if I was eating pussy the right way.

SPEAKER_04:

Right, right. I think it's kind of hard to get it wrong. I think we're just yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, we have one, so exactly.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, we know where the clit is. So let's work on um closing the orgasm gap.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Um, okay, so where can people learn more about you and what you're doing? You said you're doing some mentoring, and I think you've got an OnlyFans that you're doing too, right?

SPEAKER_02:

I do. I have an OnlyFans. Uh my OnlyFans uh is Blonde on the Bay. My ex is Blonde on the Bay. You can reach me there. You can reach me at blonde on the bay at gmail.com. And Fat Life, I'm also Blonde on the Bay. Basically Blonde on the Bay everywhere. I am. I you know, just covered it. Takes it easy. Yes. Um I'm very I'm responsive to polite, to polite questions. Um, you know, just I'm gonna answer you, but just be polite. That's all. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_04:

It sucks that it has to be said, but yes.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

It does have to be said.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, Blonnie, thank you so much for joining me on the show today. I'm so happy to have you on, and it's been such a pleasure to chat with you.

SPEAKER_02:

It has been my pleasure, Venus. I always enjoy our chat and putting information, positive, real information out into the world for people who may be confused or trying to find their way. I I feel very strongly about putting out good information.

SPEAKER_04:

That's gonna be it for today's episode. Thank you so much for joining me. Make sure you go to VenusCuckledris.com. That's where you can book a private chat with me. And you can also join the Queen Squarters community and get all the amazing benefits like the private podcast, and where you can get holding, private chat, chat, please, private chat, please, and we'll live email live within. Oh, and you can also submit a question or flash and all this on my life.