The Venus Cuckoldress Podcast
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The Venus Cuckoldress Podcast
Epic Confessions With Kathy Kay
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Kathy Kay, host of the Strictly Anonymous Podcast is here to talk about cuckolding and hotwifing. After hearing thousands of sexy confessions from callers over the years she has heard it all and is ready to share what she's learned about cuckolding, the trends, and the hot, the bad, and the ugly!
Kathy’s new book, Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, distills over 1,300 interviews into tight, revealing stories about bulls, cucks, hotwives, and the many ways people turn taboo into connection.
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Welcome, Rant, And Announcements
SPEAKER_03This is the Venus Cuckolders Podcast, a place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious, for the passionate, and for the sexually empowered woman who wants it all. Welcome to the show. I'm your host, Venus. Thanks for joining me today. And I have Kathy Kaye, who's joining me from the Strictly Anonymous podcast. And uh she's gonna be talking about all of the guests she's had over the years or callers who have had confessions about hot wifing and cackolding. And this is actually a fucking hilarious episode. I love this conversation. She's so much fun. And of course, there's some great cuck stories in this episode. I think you're gonna love it. But uh for all of you tuning in uh in the United States, I hope this show is a nice little distraction for you because holy fuck what the fuck is going on in the United States? Um I'm up here in Canada. A lot of think people think that uh this show is American. I'm actually Canadian, I'm up here in British Columbia, and um I'm one of the many people across the world and the whole fucking world who is looking at the United States and going, What the fuck is going on there? It is disturbing, it is shocking, it is literally horrific what's happening in Minnesota right now. And I I'm like losing sleep over it. This is so fucked up, it's so upsetting, and I don't know how people are just like whatever about this shit. So I hope that today is a little bit of a distraction for you. Um because like yeah, cuck holding is fun and podcasting is great, and I love this fucking job and everything like that, but this shit is fucked up what's happening in the US, and I would love to be able to travel to the United States and do some meet and greet events and go to Splash Mocha and do all the fucking things and meet all you guys and have lots of fun in the US, uh, like I have been over the the last several years. However, I fucking will not. Like, I will not. I'm one of the many people who just like hell fucking no and I'll go into the United States and I will not travel there until the fascist fucking regime gets fucked, until they go eat a big bag of dicks. So I'm just gonna stay up here in Cozy Little Canada and and podcast to my heart's content because fuck that shit, fuck Trump, fuck ICE, fuck all them fuckers. Like this is just absolutely horrific. I'm I'm not down for that. So just making my my stance clear on this shit, as if you didn't already know. Anyway, um couple of announcements before we jump into the show. Uh have a live chat that's happening in the Queen's Quarters community that's gonna come up, and that is uh so mark your calendars Thursday, February 26th. It's free to join live, and it's gonna happen at 1 p.m. Pacific time, that's 4 p.m. Eastern, and we're gonna be talking about this little bot blog post that I wrote um called put the It's Time to Put the Megaphone Down and Hush. And this is all about the wording, the messaging around cuckolding and fin dom. So uh I wrote that, it got a lot of attention, people were really reacting to it and it resonated with a lot of people. So we're gonna be discussing that blog post. If you want to learn more, you can go to VenusCuckledjust.com, click on the events tab, and there'll be uh a
Meet Kathy K And Her Book
SPEAKER_03page where you can register for free for this event and join in on the conversation or just listen in in the Queen's Quarters. And also, I have started writing on Substack and I've posted something on there about helpful tips on how to talk to your wife about your cuckolding fantasies. This is one of the most common questions that I've gotten over the last decade about cuckolding is how do I bring this up to my wife? How do I get my wife to do this? So I have some helpful tips on there on Substack and just search up Venus Podcast and you'll find me on there or get a link in the description for the show notes for today's episode. You can find it there. All right, that's it for announcements. Let's jump in to this episode with Kathy Kay. Here we go. Joining me on the show, I have Kathy Kay, host of Strictly Anonymous Podcast. And I'm so excited to have you on the show because you have a new book out called Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. Welcome to the show, Kathy. Say hello to all the listeners.
SPEAKER_00Hi, Venus listeners. I've had you on my show so many times. So it's so much fun to be on your show. I feel like I could sit back and relax, and you got to do all the work this time. Great to be here, actually, talking to all your cucks. I listen to your show. I know them well. I know them well.
SPEAKER_03It's so much more fun to be the guest. You just talk. I know. Yeah, totally. Well, welcome to the Venus Cuckoldress Podcast. And we are going to be talking about your podcast and this book because there's definitely some cuckolding sprinkled into the mix, which is pretty awesome. Your what inspired you to write this book? Is this your first book or no?
SPEAKER_00Yes. I mean, I did a cartoon book myself. Like I was always like when I was super young, I all I read was like self-helpy books and books, and I was like always into books, and I was always like, I have to publish a book one day. It was like my lifelong dream, you know. So I did one myself a cartoon book, like with my relationships and stuff. It's kind of actually really fucking funny. And did that many, many years ago. But I I got an agent, but I never got a book deal. So I just always like kind of wanted for my own thing to like have a book published by a publisher, blah, blah, blah. And um, you know, I I thought, oh, like, you know, my I have so many stories. Like I have over 1,300 episodes at this point, right? And each one is somebody's story, life story, and they're all like super interesting, right? Because I'm talking all about like ethical non-monogamy, lots of cucks, lots of hot wives, stags, all that kind of stuff. So, you know, I kind of made this pitch uh for the book. I put together a whole proposal and did all the things that you have to do. And it was all about like sort of taking the stories for my show, and since they're all in interview style, like changing them to be from third person and kind of retelling that person's story, like as if I was sitting across from somebody. And so I pitched that idea and I got an agent and they submitted it and got me a book deal, and that's how it came. And I was just like just happy to be like, okay, this is like what I've always kind of wanted. And I think it's super interesting because I would love to get the word out about these kinds of stories that I have on my show. I mean,
Why Real Non-Monogamy Stories Matter
SPEAKER_00I always kind of say like my show is here to say, like, not that I think everybody should be non-monogamous and everyone should be a cuckold or a hot wife or should do these kinds of things, but what I think it's really important is for people to know out there in the vanilla world that, you know, not only do these things exist and not only do people do these things, like these things can people can do them successfully. I think most people think, you know, the minute you open up your relationship or let your wife fuck somebody else or your girl, you're doomed for failure. And that's not true, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So, you know, this uh book is a collection of all the different kinds of stories I have on my show, and they're all like it's kind of some of them, you're kind of like, what's the point? There's no like conflict or anything. Sometimes it's just like somebody's story about opening up the relationship and living happily ever after. But I think that that's important for people to know that that exists, and these are like real stories, so it's not like cheesy erotica. I didn't want it to be that. It's really like real people's real life stories. Of course, there's sex in there, but there's stories about like non-monogamy and how it can and does work for people.
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SPEAKER_00Sometimes it doesn't work. Some people end a little badly, but most of them are just like, you know, this is what like real people are doing behind closed doors, you know, and a lot of people don't know that people are doing this.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I can definitely understand the appeal of people wanting to know what's going on behind closed doors of your neighbors or your coworkers or stuff. You wouldn't normally get a glimpse of their sex life. Listening to your show gives people an idea of like actually what are people doing? And and it's funny because I think it's great, it's so important because it actually shows that these kind of outside of the box of what was considered normal vanilla fucking standard relationships, sex life stuff, is actually more common than just your standard stuff. Like people are doing lots of interesting, wild and fun and different kind of things. So it's it actually is it's a great way to expose that and make it a little bit more mainstream, a little bit more normal for people who think maybe that it's taboo or that it's strange or whatever.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, for sure. And listen, I've been doing my show for like maybe 11 or 12 years now, so I have fit seeing things change. Like, I don't think that this book would have gotten out there, you know, even like maybe 10 years ago or eight years ago, you know, like things have definitely changed, and this stuff I think is definitely becoming more mainstream where people know these things more, but like I didn't even know about them back in the day. Like I remember my first guy that I had on my show, he was by far the most popular, and I didn't realize why. And his his I forget what his name is why how do I am not forgetting his I'm forgetting his name right now. He's not in the book, but like he was literally a guy that wanted his wife to like fuck other guys, you know, and he came on so many times and he was, like I said, by far the most downloaded. People were obsessed with him. I went up finding out that his stories were all bullshit when he started sending me like stock photos of his fake wife, but he was but I it really made me realize like that this was like this thing about guys wanting to see their wives or their girls like fuck other guys, like was a thing, and not only was it a thing, it was like a very like popular thing. And the more that time has gone on, the more I'm like, oh, I could have a a guy every week on talking about his hot wifing experiences or that he's into that and that's what he's doing, you know? Because it really is something that's so common with men, and I had no idea. That's always like if someone asked me, like, what's the number one thing I learned on my show? It's like that, you know. I always had a lot of guy friends, I was always open about sex. I felt like my guy's friends told me everything, but not one of them ever caught to the fact that they wanted to see their girl fuck another guy. But it turns out that lots of guys want that. It's so, it's so like it's like a it's like a real thing that exists, and it's like a little bit more common than people think. Who knew?
SPEAKER_03That is so funny because I was in the non-monogamy world for like almost a fucking decade, right? And nobody ever brought up cuckolding, nobody ever brought up the one-sided open relationship, no one brought it up ever. I never heard the word even once. How the fuck is this possible that all these guys have this desire? Because let's face it, it's mostly men, it's not a lot of ladies. Um most they have this desire, and yet fucking none of them were willing to say anything about it. Like it's just like heavily closeted on the download.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. There's so many connotations to the word cock. I feel like there's so many variations when it comes to that word, right? We could probably debate what it means for like 10 full minutes because a lot of times maybe I use it for guys that maybe aren't so extreme. There's extreme cocks, there's regular cucks, there's gags, you know. Yeah, but that whole thing of guys just like really getting off on their girl going and fucking somebody else, like is very common. But I think a lot of the times the reason why people weren't willing to like raise their hand because some people on the
Cuckolding Misconceptions And Stigma
SPEAKER_00other side of it that aren't into it, like the stigma I think is like, oh, you're weak. Like you're you, you know, you allow your girl to go and fuck someone else. But what they don't understand is it it takes a lot of confidence to allow your girl. It's like actually the opposite that, you know, uh these guys are what people, you know, the stigma that's a tattooed is like opposite of the guys that are really into it and why they're doing it, and there's no weakness involved in it at all. These guys are typically very non-jealous people. Sometimes if they're jealous, they they know how to turn it into a kink, but they just love it's like conversion, right? They love to see their girl, you know, uh uh be pleasured. They're their girl is their porn star. Like there's these things that I hear from every guy that resonates that are all kind of the same, and that's what it's all about. And there's not there's no weakness in that at all.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. And that's what I've been saying for years now. And I hope that it's sinking into some people out there that maybe we're changing this the stigma that's um that's around that word cuckle. Because I my friend Crystal Welch, she she says that she's like, cucks are like evolved, an evolved species, like evolved in so many ways, but emotionally fucking evolved, evolved in um in in in being a str like strong person, a very strong person, and leveling up emotionally as a partner, like they are just like um, I mean, I like you should be fucking proud to be a cuck, but unfortunately, there's still so much fucking garbage out there online with um degradation around the use of that word uh cuck or cuckle.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, especially when it's a weakness.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, especially when it comes to fendom. Um they're very loud with using that as an insult. And even in like, you know, right-wing fucking conservative political arenas, like use that word at cuck as a a slur.
SPEAKER_00Oh, let me tell you, my son is Ted, okay, and he gets everything from YouTube. He has been, it's like kind of funny, and I think it's kind of cute, and I don't really get into it with him, but he's been, oh, that guy's such a cuck. And I'm like, where the fuck is he getting this word? It's like a lingo with kids. There, it's even coming out, like as kids are using it as a slur, like to put someone down. Like that's how much it is out there. And you said something else before that um I think uh I wanted to talk about because the other stigma is you said one-sided relationship. That's another big thing that people don't get that are on the outside of this world. Like they think, like, oh, because a lot of times I have hot wifes on that are like they go out and they fuck a lot of guys for their guy, but they don't want to see their guy with another woman at all, you know. And I would get so many people when I had YouTube and there was a lot of commenting going back and forth, being like, oh, that's not fair, that's not fair. But I will tell you, after talking to so many guys that are into this, I would say like the percentage of guys that are even interested in fucking other women that have this hot wife kink is like 0.01%. Most guys that are into this could give a shit about having variety when it comes to women. Like what they're into is seeing their women with other guys. That's the variety they crave. If they craved fucking girls too, like they'd be calling into my show as swingers, you know what I mean? I have plenty of people that are calling in that way. They're couple swapping, they're doing all that. That's a different dynamic. But the guys and the women that are calling up doing this, the guy has no desire. I I'm posting a woman on Monday who literally, like, she wants her guy to go and fuck another girl, but he doesn't care and he has no interest and he hasn't set it up. And I'm like, that's and he's right, because that's how these guys roll. They don't care. That's not what they're into. Yeah, so it's not one-sided, it's exactly what is perfect for them, and everyone's happy. You know what I mean? It's there's no tit for tat just because she gets to go, then he should. It's like whatever they're into, you know. And what guys that are into this kink want is they just want that. They don't want to go fuck other women too.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, people can't wrap their head around that part. The and I did when I first found out about cuckolding from my first cock boyfriend, and yeah, I've been in the non-monogamy swingers world for a many, many years. So I knew the push and pull, you have to meet in the middle. This is like a constant tug of war to make sure that you both feel like everything's equal, right? It always has to be equal in the swinger land and and regular vanilla land. And so I when he told me he did not want the same privilege of sleeping with other women, I was like, What? No, like you didn't, we probably didn't too good to be true. There's it's a trap. I know, I didn't believe him. I was I was like, Most women don't. What? Like, really? I did not understand it. But the longer that it was like that, where it was one side, I was like, well, actually, this is kind of great.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. No, when I have couples on and the guy is into that, and the woman then gets on and I talk to them, like a lot of times the woman still has not really believed that her guy has no desire. And I'm like, no, you don't understand. I talk to these guys on a daily basis. Out of like 1300 episodes, probably like, you know, 800 are from guys that are into this cake or are living it out, right? And um, or lying about it. That's the a big thing. That's the number one topic that guys lie about on my show is having a hot wife because it's like their biggest fantasy. But I always have to tell the wife, like, no, you don't understand, like, you could believe him. Like, I know it's harder if you're in the relationship to actually believe that, but I know because these guys have no reason to lie to me. There isn't a desire, it's not a trap, it isn't about that, it's not a tit for tat, and it's not, it's even in that everyone's happy. The it's not like the guy isn't getting something out of it, you know, at all.
SPEAKER_02They're getting a lot out of it.
SPEAKER_00Of course, yeah, that it's their porn. You know, I had a guy recently on who said, like, you know, once his uh wife started doing that because he likes to videotape and everything, he's one of those cucks that doesn't like get involved at all. He likes to sit there and watch and he doesn't want to get distracted by participating. Yeah, you know, and and he doesn't watch porn anymore because he's got his porn, like it's his girl is his porn. Then I was thinking the other day, I did a girl talk episode, and me and Leila from Curious Girl Diaries, we're talking about like maybe that's why so many guys are into this. Because, you know, a lot of times the guy will say, It's like my wife is my porn star. I could sit back and watch her, and you know, guys are always like jerking off to porn. Everyone watches porn, right? And it's like, you know, you're always like sort of seeing somebody on your outside of the scene, but like I think having their girl do it and them being able to really watch a scene makes like it's like the best porn ever, right? Like you already like porn, but now here's like real live porn, and you get to like fuck that porn star like after she's done. So I just think it's like the ultimate.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah, I I totally see how guys
One-Sided Openness Explained
SPEAKER_03can um get off in that way. And I they totally do. Like for for guys who who learn about cuckolding and they're like, oh, that's not fair. Why is it one one-sided open? They have no idea that like how fucking hot and intense and thrilling this kind of relationship is, and being able to be part of it, if even if the guy is like just filming or just hearing about it afterwards or whatever, like they are they these guys are missing out. These these guys who are just ignorant about the fact that it's one-sided when it's open. It's like, fuck off. But that's so funny that you said it that the biggest lie told or most often on your show is that guys have a hot wife.
SPEAKER_00Can you believe I started doing because like I get really pissed, you know, someone who calls in, they book up a time, so other people can't, they've wasted an hour of my time, and then like, you know, 10 minutes in, I could tell this guy's like full of shit. So I actually started to do, um, I I you know, the way I sort of stopped being mad at these people is I do factor fiction episodes. Like, you're gonna waste my time, I'm still gonna air it. I'm gonna put that episode out, right? I'm not so it's not a waste of time, but I put them out as factor fictions. And by far, I'll nobody's calling up lying about being a swinger, nobody's calling up lying about being a cheater, no one's lying, no woman's calling up and telling me she's been in, you know, 50 gangbangs like I have a girl in my book who was in 50 gangbang. She's not lying. Okay, you know who's fucking lying to guys that have a hot life. Like those are the only, those are my All my factor fiction episodes are guys with a hot wife. And it's because they want it so bad, but like maybe they can't make it a reality. That's how much of a fucking fantasy it is. This is fucking hilarious.
SPEAKER_03I've obviously come across this over the last decade a lot. And not only do they lie about these experiences, like I have a community called the Queen's Quarters community online where people can um, you know, make po posts and read what other people are saying and comment and stuff like that and ask questions. And and even though like I'm very explicit in the guidelines for the community, like you you this is not a wank space, this is not for here, you know, exactly still get guys who want to do this fake storytelling. Oh yeah, you know it's not real. Yeah, you know it's not real. They're just doing it, they're just basically like scripting out this like fantasy, and they'll add a question in there, like, what do you think I should do? And you know it's fucking bullshit. Like you, they're just walking with one hand, one with the other hand is typing on the keyboard, and they're just like, Oh, this is so hot.
SPEAKER_00Like, yeah, you have to figure out how to monetize it anyway. Like, because I so told you at first I was like so pissed off because you know, that kind of like ruins my schedule. I have a lot of people that want to call into my show. You're taking an hour, now I wasted this whole time, you know. So I figured out a way to still make it work. So you have to figure out a way to make that work because that's always gonna happen with this king. Oh, it's I don't know what to charge them anyway, figure out a way to get them like you know, it's not how you have to make it work for you because it's because listen, at the end of the day, it is fucking a waste when it's a big fat lie, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, oh, I just delete it. I get so annoyed with it. I just delete it. I'm like, fuck off. I like I I'm just I gotta say, people like my factor fiction episode. Yeah, it sounds fun. It sounds fun, yeah, yeah. They gotta suss it out. The other thing that I've noticed over the years, you probably don't come across this with your show, but that like there's a lot of coercion going on with uh because going back to what you said about like cucks, or guys just really want their wife to do this for them. They really want this fantasy to come true, and so they'll do anything to make that happen. And sometimes they'll do some really shady fucking shit, like trick her into it or whatever.
SPEAKER_00Oh, see, I don't get much of that on my show. Like, even the ones who lie are never talking that I, you know, I had like one that uh one story of a guy, but it wasn't really it was coercion, but it was about having threesomes with his wife. So I what I find is that the long game actually really works. Like, I have for all those people like trying to use coercion to get like just play like the long game. It might take that. Like, I have a lot of those kinds of stories on my show, and I love those stories because they tell people in in real life like how this can work. I have had so many stories of guys who have got their women who were totally vanilla or totally religious, totally against it. They were virgins when they first married, and now they're fucking other guys with them and they love it, you know. And I got, and it was always most of the time, I would say, you know, 99.999% of the time, but it's the guy that brings us up first. Yeah, but a lot of times they have to play the long game. And one thing you probably know by being in the lifestyle before you were even into this is that unf like uh fortunately for women and unfortunately for men, in the lifestyle, you do have to, it is you have to go by the woman's lead, right? Because it's it's never gonna be matched to yours, right? Guys could just like fuck anybody, like we're just wired so differently that you know you gotta you gotta go, you're gonna go at her speed, and that speed is most likely gonna be slower with yours, and you can never do like coercion is never gonna work. I mean, the it has to be about the woman doing it and being into it. And most guys that I know that are into the hot wifing thing and stuff like they're because it really is about conversion and they get off on their girl getting off, like they wanna, they don't want it for them to be doing it for them. You know what I mean? Where's the fun in that? It's like watching porn that's so overly produced, right? Like you want to know that your girl's really into it, and if that's the case, just go the right way, do it the right way, and get her to really actually be into it. And it could take years, right? Like I've heard those stories, but it could happen. And it just starts with like this initial conversations and then it turns into fantasy talk, and then it turns into using toys to mock it up, and then it turns into let's just go online and just start exchanging pics and see how you feel, and then the next thing you know, she's fucking another guy in a hotel room for you. You know what I mean? You never know.
SPEAKER_03Or if she says no, I never want to fucking do this, then you just have to accept it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, or you but you can also say, like, can we if it's real big king for yours? And I get this with like because I do a fetish Friday episode, and you know, I have guys that are into some fetishes that maybe like their girl doesn't want like what about just like mocking it up and doing like fantasy roleplay for your partner if that's what they're really into anyway, right? You don't have to actually do it. I had a couple that you know used a fuck machine, and so I I love to actually have those kinds of couples too, ones who have never fully crossed the line or whatever, but live out their fantasy in a way that is super fulfilling. If you're creative enough, you could role play, you get a dildo, get a fuck machine, and pretend another guy's there, dirty talk. Like you could go there, right? I also think another sort of step into it without crossing the line is that same couple that did the fuck machine, they went and um they just started like sending
Creative Paths To Explore The Kink
SPEAKER_00videos and pictures of themselves to other couples online. Like they went on a site and they and that's like, you know, listen, you're not crossing the line, you're not fucking anybody else or doing anything, but you know, it still lives out some fantasies, and it's a fun way to stay monogamous, but still have fun and live out your hot fantasies, right? There's creative ways of doing it to get your rocks off of what you want, right? And that type of role play, talking, introducing things without crossing the line. And then sometimes what happens is that might change things down the line. You never know. So many times fantasy talk has led to real life stuff happening without the woman or the man thinking that's where it was gonna go, you know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wish more guys would be open-minded to uh being creative like that and thinking outside of the box, but it's it's weird. Like I think I don't know what it is, but um guys feel lots of guys, maybe ladies too, but feel that um that uh they can't uh truly be a cuck or experience this fan or fulfill this fantasy until their wife uh fucks some other guy and he watches or something like that. Like feel like like you, you it's like losing your ver cuck virginity. You can't possibly experience this fantasy for real unless she does that. It's like, oh my god, can we like fuck off with that shit? Because like as a woman who loves cuck holding relationships, 99% of the fun is everything that is surrounding that event. Not yeah, like where's your creativity?
SPEAKER_00Where's yeah, where's your imagination? I don't know, people like that, like they're probably not good in good in bed with anything because I I think you know, after after you're fucking the same person, don't you have to use your imagination? Don't you have to role play? Don't you want to do all those things anyway? Like you need to be like a little imagination, like a little imaginative in the bedroom, and that comes into play. And I think that's the kind of stuff that really can completely change the game in relationships, and people don't sort of talk about sex enough, talk about their fantasies enough on anything, whether it's a cock fantasy or not. But that kind of stuff could go a long way for real, you know. And I think a lot of guys are afraid to admit it to their girl because, and I think girls all as well are afraid to meet like admit their fantasies to their guys, but it all it takes is like one person to bring something up, it then allows the other person maybe to bring up what they want to bring up, and then before you know it, you're finding out things about each other that maybe you never knew after being married 30 years. I have that story on my show all the fucking time, you know?
SPEAKER_03Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so you gotta talk about it and put it out there. What's the worst that your girl's gonna be like, no fucking way? But I've had people who have said no fucking way and now they're hot wifing, so you just don't know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Or they're doing something that's kind of parallel to that fantasy, like that's super fun that you never would have gone down that road before if it wasn't for that conversation.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you could just talk about another guy being there and have that fantasy without ever doing anything, and maybe that makes your wife feel safe enough to just go there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Uh, have you noticed any other trends? Like, is oh, or first of all, I should ask you, you've been doing this podcast for a long, long time. Yeah. Lots of stories about hot wife and cuckolding. Is it something that you find is like trending?
SPEAKER_00Like, is it is popularity increasing with well, you know, it's funny because I wanted to do a new series on Sundays called Sex in the News, and I was looking for some news stories to uh to you know make a list of stuff that I was gonna talk about, and there was something about that in the somewhere, but it wasn't like a reputable enough paper that I'm like, can I really trust these studies done? But I will say uh after talking to people for 11 years, 1,346 people at this point today, like literally, I could say I've done the study. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Yes, you've got the data. You've got the data.
SPEAKER_00I have the data more than that fucking asshole, Dr. Drew, who always mouths off about shit when it comes to like a non-monogamy and doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. I do because I feel like I've talked to so many people. Um, and I will say I definitely think like what I think is that it's trending that more people are definitely into it. Yeah, and I think because more people started talking about it and more people started realizing it as a kink, and then more people started putting it together. But I think it's like it's there in a lot of guys, and it always has been. And like I said, I knew this early on in my podcasting days because that guy's episodes were oh, John was his name. John, his episodes to this day, people will be like, Oh, do you still talk to that guy, John? Like they still go back and listen to those episodes. It's like number three out of 1300. Um, so it was like so many guys were into it back then, and I think because more people are talking about it and it's becoming more mainstream, yeah. I think guys are putting it together. Same thing with cuck queening, it is a thing for girls. And whenever I have a cuck queen on my show, you know, that's something that's not so much out there, right? There's not a that word, most people don't know what it means. I have a cuck queen in my book, I've had cut queens on my show, and well, when they come on, I get a lot of other people emailing me, like, oh, and I when I heard someone talking about it, I'm like, oh, maybe I'm a cup queen, you know, like, and so I think sometimes it just becomes like it's like kind of like a snowball effect, like, you know, it's people are talking about it more, and there's more mainstream media out there, and like there's podcasts and people are hearing about more, so more people are caught admitting it, but were they always into it? I think so, or maybe the seed was always there. I just think that a lot of guys, when they hear about it or think about it, you know, they realize they're into it too. I just think if there was, I wonder like what the percentage is on how many guys are into it versus not.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, Dr. David Le or no, Dr. Justin Lay Miller, who wrote the book, Tell Me What You Want, he did some, he he got the numbers. Uh, and it was like over half of all the men that in his giant survey that he did have cuckolding fantasies. Yeah. Um very few women do very few women do. Women are far more likely to fantasize about being the um the one sleeping with the the other guy than the one than being a cut queen. So the cut queen, for those of you listening who are not sure what a cut queen is, it's like cuckolding in reverse. So it's where the woman enjoys seeing her husband
Is Cuckolding Trending
SPEAKER_03uh having sex with another woman. So she really gets off on that. So it's a one-sided open relationship, but on his side it's open and not hers. So yeah, so it it's a lots of lots of guys are fantasizing about cuckolding. And one of the interesting things that he was saying is that um it is that uh with for people who have uh cuckolding fantasies, these are people who tend to have sensation-seeking personality. So they are really seeking the thrill there, it's seeking that kind of rush, which makes a lot of sense because that's I think it is about conversion, but it's also about a fucking thrill. Like it's thrilled, it does something that it it causes a reaction, certainly in men. I had a uh doctor friend who explained this kind of um biological reaction that happens within men uh when you get this flood of testosterone and other hormones going on when you when a man thinks about or sees or thinks about his wife sleeping with another man, there's an actual reaction in his body that happens. So I get it. It's fascinating to me. It's just so cool.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I had Dr. David Lay, and maybe it was him that you're talking about. Like, I remember when he explained, and I sort of threw this in my friend's face the other day when he was talking about, like, oh, someone being into that. Like, do you think that they're just like perverted or weird or something? I'm like, no, actually, what Dr. David Lay explained to me, and I think you're talking about the same thing, is he was like, you know how some people like, you know, the way they get excited is like they need to like go on a roller coaster, you know what I mean? And that like gets them off, and those kinds of people need more to feel a feeling, right? Like, is it that's just the way they're wired, and some people aren't. Like, I could literally just be next to a roller coaster and hear it, and I fucking get off. Like, I am an adrenaline junkie seeker. My son hates it, I forced him on, he was crying, and he didn't even like it after. He has zero of that in him, you know what I mean? We really are just wired that way or not. And the people, in the way he described, and what I was saying to my friend, it's like, no, the people that need this extra stuff when it comes to sex, you know, they just need more. Like they're it's like because they just that's how they're wired. They need more to feel that kind of feeling. They get off on feeling that much more, and those kinds of things just add to it, you know. So they're like that, so that when it comes to sex, it's like, you know, cucking is like the that person likes roller coasters, the cuckled roller coaster. You know, some people are fine with vanilla sex, you know, but a lot of people, but a lot of people that are like on my show are not. You know, they need more, they want more, they crave more. That yes, and that's fulfilling to them, and there's nothing wrong with that.
SPEAKER_03Yes, yes, yes. I think and it it falls in line with it tracks with how like people who are are attracted to this sexual taboos um are attracted to cuckolding because it's such a taboo, especially if it's cuckolding with power exchange and humiliation and teasing and stuff like that. Such a taboo that I can understand how people who have who who seek that kind of have that uh sensation-seeking personality are so attracted to taboo. Because the more taboo something is, the more that was Dr. David Leigh when he came on my show. He talked about the taboo nature of of cuckolding. Um, and he was saying, like, the more you're told not to want something, the more you fucking want it.
SPEAKER_00Like, yeah, it's unfortunate, it's unfortunate. Listen, I have cheating, I have cheaters on my show too. And the sad thing about cheating sex is sometimes it's like so supercharged, right? Like it's unfortunate. It's you know, that it's like it's sometimes better than like the vanilla sex you're having at home with your wife. And but like you can't help that sometimes something new or something different gives you a different kind of rush or a feeling, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. And and Dr. Justin Lay Miller, when he was on my show, he talked about how like um guys who have cuckolding fantasies, he said his reach research showed that they actually have higher levels of confidence and self-esteem than most people. So people who are throwing that word around cuck as an insult or a slur is actually a compliment.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I love that. I love to have like really alpha guys on my show that suck dick, really alpha guys that are cucks, really alpha guys that like to wear panties. Because I do this thing on my Patreon where I get pictures of people too, like anonymous pictures, you know. So I'll show guys like the most jacked up, hot as guy from the gym that you wouldn't be like, you know, you would never believe in, like, uh, you know, and tell them, like, yeah, this guy wears panties, or yeah, this guy loves watching his girl get fucked by another guy and he sits there and watches it. You know what I mean? This guy loves this, and you know, because people tend to want to sort of judge a book by its cover, but you can't you can't, you can't ever put like it's not, it's not like uh there's not like a specific kind of guy that likes this. You know what I mean? It's across the board, and that's the whole thing with my show. It's just like when you said like it's like people want to know what regular people are doing, like these are regular people. Like a lot of times people think like people that are into all these things that we're talking about are like these other kind of people, like there's some sort of pervert island where like all these weird-looking people that you know are dirty pigs exist. It's like, no, they are walking down the street, they're like they're your neighbor, they're your mother, they're your aunt, they're the person that sits next to you in the cubicle, they might be your boss. I mean, these are all just real regular people, and you can never decipher, you know, one from the other. It's just uh it's it's not about the outside, you know?
SPEAKER_03How uh interviewing
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SPEAKER_03all of these p people uh on your show or hearing all their steer stories about uh their confessions around cuckolding or hot wifing, has it inspired you at all to want to try it?
SPEAKER_00Well, this is the interesting thing. I'm so glad you asked because it's so interesting. I never like I was always like, oh, if I wanted to do that kind of a thing, well, you know, I would be into knowing my guy just like came over after he fucked somebody else. Like, you know what I mean? Like that I realized I'm a little bit of a cuck queen, like I could get off on that, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I never thought I'd be interested in going and fucking another guy for a guy. Like, I was like, no, I want the opposite. You know, my luck would be like my guy doesn't want to go fuck anybody else. You know, that's like the saddest part of my life. But so I have this guy I've been banging for a long time. I have a son, I'm a single mom, I'm not interested in dating anyone until he doesn't need me anymore. So, but I have someone that services me, right? And the funny thing is, and this is so true about what we're talking about, you know. This is a guy that I've known for a very long time. He's been my long-term booty call. He's the person that bangs me out when I need to be banged out, right? He knows what I do for a living. I've never said anything about you know, he knows what I'm into, he knows what I'm not into. I never I of course never said I was into like anyone fuck like fucking any other guys or anything. He's never told me he's into that. But one time, and the way, oh, by the way, the way I realized that I was into the cucking thing, it wasn't just the person talking about it. He once sent me a video of him fucking someone else, and I was like, Oh, is this you? Like, you are you saying you like this because like I thought he was like, he was sending it to me because he thought it looked like me, and he was like, Oh, that I'm thinking I'm with you, and but I got turned on just by seeing him with somebody else. That's when I realized it. So recently, and after literally, I've been begging him for 10 years, he never said anything. Recently we were just talking, and I was like, Oh, you know, I think like, oh, you know, if I was with another guy, I was talking about my like my show and how it's changed me and how I do so many things differently. Like, I would never be with two guys before, but maybe I would now, and like if my guy wanted me to go fuck another girl for him, like I'd try it out, like why not? Like, I just threw that out there, right? Yeah to this guy that I've known for the really like the longest time. And so, like, fast forward two weeks or so something, and I get a video of him. It's him with another girl, and I'm like, and he's like, I wouldn't mind seeing that from you. And I'm like, What are you saying? Do you mean me in the video doing what you're doing in there, or do you mean me sending you a video of me with someone else? And he said the latter, like, meaning he caught to me that he would like to see me with another guy, and this is someone like and this just shows that all you gotta do is let the other person know you're into it and you never know. Yeah, because this is like two things happened here. First, he revealed to me he was into it, and then the minute he said that, I got like so horny with like fucking another guy before he comes over to my house. And like I and when I said oh, I do it for a guy, I'm just thinking I would just like throw my guy a bone. I never realized like that would make me tingly down there, like at all. The minute he said it, I was like, Oh my god, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go like email my uh I'm gonna make it fucking happen. I started text messaging my old booty call. I couldn't make it happen because he's married and he didn't want to cheat and all this stuff, and I was like, oh my god, I'm on it, I'm on it. And really the thoughts of it and all of that stuff, I was like so fucking into it, and I never knew I was. We still haven't done it, okay, but it's on the table and it made me realize that I would be into that. I not only would I do it for my guy, right? If he liked like I actually the thought of like, oh, having my like my whole fantasy when he said he was into it, would be like, oh, I'd have that guy come over first and then he'd leave, and then you could come and I videotape it for you, like that kind of a thing. You know, it's kind of hot. And so there you go. Who know? Who knew? I didn't even know. It's inspiration. There you go. Yeah, you just don't know. I didn't even know that I had that in me. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, isn't that weird? Because I don't think that like oh, what you're into in at one point in your life is like is stagnant. I think you grow and change and you become open, right?
SPEAKER_03Don't you think? Yeah. Oh, a hundred percent. If it's not, if you're not getting kinkier with age, just naturally, then there's something fucking wrong.
SPEAKER_00Right, right. You shouldn't be going the other way. You get kinkier as you get older, right? Yeah, because I am for sure. Oh, yeah. I would have never been with two guys, but I'm like, I would be open to it now. You know, I just feel very differently after talking to people, you know? And I just think yeah, you just never know. And and you never know with your partner. Like I said, if I I don't think because listen, this was a guy I knew for a really long time. He never, I don't think he would have ever let me know that he was into it if I didn't let him know first that I was down, right? Because he knows he he he obviously knew he was into that, right? But he never told me because he never heard me say it. The minute I gave him somewhat of a green light, which was when I just threw it out there that I'd do it, which I didn't even do on purpose, right? Yeah, he took the in. Yeah. Yeah. And then he made me realize I was into it. And it's like, what a fucking domino effect. And that's why literally just communicating with your partner, even if you've been with them for 30 years, because this is someone I know for like 20 years. I've been banging him for 10, but I know him for like 25 years. Like communication at any time of your life is like key and could totally change the game.
SPEAKER_03Yes, yes. Um, okay, I want to talk a little bit about your book. So I understand that there's some crazy cuckled hot wife story that made it into the book. What was that all about?
SPEAKER_00There's a few. I mean, there's one really like a real true cuckle. This is a guy named Craig, and he was from a long time ago. And I got picks, let me tell you, his wife and her friend that cucked him for a long time were like they were like fucking tens, okay? Because I got the pictures on my Patreon. And he was a true cuck. I mean, he loved nothing more than his girl to go, his wife to go out and uh have boyfriends, fuck tons of guys. Uh, sometimes he'd be on the phone. I mean, he had like every guy's every fantasy he could imagine. You know, he got videos one time. He they you know left uh uh the phone open so that he could hear, and they were like banging like these famous soccer guys, and you know, and it was she got her girlfriend in on it, you know. It kind of has a sad ending because the when the friend wasn't involved, she wasn't hot wifing for him, but he was a very true cuck, right? In that he never participated. He wanted his wife to go out, he wanted to sit at home, be sort of waiting and wondering, and you know, sometimes being in the know, sometimes not knowing, and then getting her afterwards. And that was like a, you know, I wanted to represent every single person in my story. So I have a bull, I have a cuck, I have a hot wife. Then I have like a hot wife, and of course, her her husband is a cuck because he's on the other side, always watching on FaceTime or whatever, and that's Ember. And then I have Betty who started out. She's a really interesting story because she started out, her guy wanted her to cuck old, and then she started gangbang. And what's interesting about Betty's story is this is like a the other side that sometimes does happen. I don't hear this story that often, but Betty, when she said it, I was like, Oh, that's kind of interesting from the hot wife scenario that she was like hot wifing for her husband all the time. Then she started doing gangbangs. I called her gangbang
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SPEAKER_00Betty, right? She started up with hot wife, then she was a gangbang betty. And now she's like, you know, with a younger guy and she's a swinger. And she said, you know, after doing all of that for her husband for so long, because he was a true cook too, he stayed at home, he wasn't participating. She was sort of doing she felt like she was doing all the work, and she realized after they got divorced because she like things didn't work out between them, that when she met a guy who was into swinging, that she actually loved that more. And I was like, Oh, that's kind of an interesting take, right? Like she felt like you know, it was uneven in that she was doing all the work kind of and she was wanted somebody to be there with her, you know. Yeah, and like that's the thing with hot wives, like sometimes they want their guy there, sometimes they don't. Like everyone rolls very different, and that's why I could hear the same story over and over again on my show, but it's always like super unique because everybody is different. Yeah, so those are the and the yeah, it's Ember's a hot wife, Betty's uh, you know, gangbang Betty. She started out as a hot wife, and then there's cuckled craig, and then there's all different. I tried to do a little mix of everything that I have on my show, you know, a different story for each one of those kinds of topics. Oh, I think that's a good thing. And what's great is they could read the story and it's written like a it's very short, it's a very easy read. I didn't I made sure not to use a lot of adjectives because I don't like flowery, overly erotic uh kind of stuff, right? I don't want to, you know, but there's sex in there, and um what's kind of cool, I think, is like after you hear the story, you could go and listen to the actual episode and hear the real person. Like these are real stories, these are not uh you know, fake ass stories, these are real stories. These this shit really happened, and I made them as real too. The only place we took liberty in writing is like a little bit of the sex was like added in, right? Like a little bit to it, but like the sex scenes were there. Maybe some of like it wasn't exactly that he touched her panties or finger or that way, but like everything else, every fact you read is all from there, and you could go and listen to the episode afterwards and hear them, and then you could join my Patreon and see the pictures because they're all there. I have mostly a lot of pictures now of of the people, so you could put it like Candy's the first one, she's a MILF and she fucks everybody, and she's like hot as shit. Like you wouldn't believe if you get to listen to her and then see her. She's like a tan, you know. So you could hear the people afterwards and see them if you want, but and it's a very easy read, it's kind of like a penthouse forum short kind of a thing, each chapter.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, well, that's great. I love that fun. I love the easy read ones. Totally. That's great. I like that you did that format. Um, yeah. All right, where can people buy this book?
SPEAKER_00You could get it now. Uh uh, paperback and ebook is available. I don't know when you're gonna air this. The audiobook is like in the making as we speak, so the audiobook will definitely be out there if you want to hear it. Uh, I just have to pick like the hottest narrator. I decided I don't want to narrate it myself, even though I thought for sure I had to. Um, but you know, it's available paperback and ebook wherever that you they sell books. You know, I always sell people Amazon because it's super easy. Yeah. Uh, but it's available wherever you buy books, and you could do it like you could hide it on your computer with an ebook version. It's only 10 bucks, or you could get the paperback. And it's I'll give you a link that you could put it if you can in the description for Amazon if you want, or put in your own Amazon. Like if you can. Can you do that?
SPEAKER_03Yes, yes, absolutely. I can do that. All right, awesome. And where can people listen to your show and learn more about your Patreon?
SPEAKER_00Oh, they could do that on any podcast app. It's uh, you know, Strictly Anonymous Confessions. I'm everywhere that they listen to you, they listen to your show, right? We're all on every uh platform you could find it. And then the Patreon is strictly anonymous podcast.com slash strict uh no, it's Patreon slash dot com. I don't know, everything and like the links to everything if you want to join the Patreon afterwards. Like, I don't really promote that, I promote that on my show, but like they could just there's all those links are in my um uh description. What I will say to your audience is if they do get the book, what I will do for your audience, and I do it for select people, is like, you know, if they buy the book and they send me a screenshot of their purchase, I give them access to my Discord. My Discord has like six that over six thousand people on it. We have like look, we're we have like contests on there where there's so many different challenges. It's very X-rated, it's super naughty. People are hooking up on there. It's like we just did a best boob contest, we did a best. I mean, and my listeners have like my listeners are hot, okay. Like, you don't believe the tits that I had to rate on this thing. There's like over 200 pictures submitted. We did a big did the best dick pic contest, all kinds of things there. And that's my my Discord is is um private, nobody could find the link anywhere. I vet people to get in by sort of getting them. Oh, if you join my Patreon, if you get my book, and that's the way I've sort of built my Discord to have like super cool, fucking hot people on there because it's my audience, right? And it's it's gonna be your audience too. So if they buy the book, they could send me a screenshot of the thing and I'll send them the private link to my Discord and they'll get in there too, which is fine.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's awesome. You should have a small dick contest for the cucks.
SPEAKER_00Well, actually, oh, they've been begging me. The next one I think is gonna be a jizz contest because so many people like whenever they submit in the big boobs, they put they put jizz on the tits. We're like, oh, that's a porn shot, but everyone wants the porn shot contest, so that's gonna be next. We've done the best half, the best you wouldn't believe the dicks if you like big dicks. If you're a size queen, I couldn't believe, like, I fucked a lot of guys in my life, and I'm sorry, like I didn't see a lot of big dicks in my time, like not that many, but like on my like the best dick pick, it wasn't the biggest, it was just the best dick pick contest. I was like, well, every guy has a bit, and these are real pictures, okay, for sure. These are real people, real pictures. Every guy had like the biggest dick. I was like, oh my god, my listeners have big dicks.
SPEAKER_02I always wonder like how many of these pictures are created by AI, though. Like no, no, no.
SPEAKER_00There I know, no, we look for that. We look, there's a guy right now that people are um commenting at his AI, and I noticed there was like four hands in his thing, but no, these are you could tell the real stuff from the fake. And that's why I believe like my audience that have been listening to my show are like real people, cool people. Like, I don't have just anyone getting into my Discord, like those 6,000 people that joined all joined from me and my show. Like I said, either joining my Patreon or joining my thing. So they're not like these fake ass people. Like, if it was open, that's what I'd get a lot of that out there. But out of 6,000 people, it's like one person we have snatched doing a fake uh AI stuff, but everybody else, for sure, they are real, okay? Because I hear them hooking up and I'm getting the stories on my show now. And you can tell they're real, you could just tell they're real, I promise you. Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, oh my God. It's been so much fun having you on the show, Kathy. Thank you so much for coming on with me. And I am so excited for you and your new book that's come out. I think it sounds amazing, and I hope you have a lot of success with it.
SPEAKER_00Thank you. You're the best. Thanks so much for having me on. This was super fun. You're always fun to talk to. I love having uh I love having you on my show, so anytime you want to come back, okay, but this was super fun. Thanks so much, Venus. Thank you.
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