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• Venus / Mistress B • Season 6 • Episode 15

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Venus sits down Mistress B about her 25-year marriage that grew from a single dare into a layered cuckolding and femdom dynamic built on trust, deep honesty, and a lot of playful experimentation. We dig into what women actually carry in these relationships, from emotional caretaking to navigating authenticity, boundaries, and respect when fantasies get real.

• A first leap into non-monogamy sparked by a Halloween dare
• The “cuck spiral” after the first real experience and how it impacts the relationship
• Emotional caretaking and the mental load women often hold
• Chastity as a practical tool for teasing and stability
• Feminization and sissy play as a state of mind rather than a costume
• “Cuckblocking” as orgasm-driven mood shifts that derail connection
• Moving from a bull stable to a long-term connected bull
• Forced bi exploration and how to keep everyone safe and respected
• Why respect does not have to disappear when roles flip

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Welcome And Listener Updates

SPEAKER_00

This is the Venus Cuckolders Podcast, a place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious, for the passionate, and for the sexually empowered woman who wants it all.

SPEAKER_02

Let's go.

SPEAKER_00

Welcome to the show. I'm your host, Venus. Thanks for joining me. I have a special guest on the show today who's going to talk about her cuckled marriage that includes lots of kinky stuff, like feminization, sissy play, forced by and chastity, and all the good stuff. We're going to be getting into that, all the details of that, and what it's like that for her in that dynamic, from a woman's point of view, because Lord knows we have heard it all from the guys. Anytime you go in the cuckolding spaces online, it's just a whole lot of the cucks point of view. And so today we're talking about these different dynamics from the woman's point of view, which I think you'll find really interesting. We're also gonna cover a couple of really interesting things that I don't think we've explored a lot on the show before. One of them we came up with a new term for this in today's episode called cuck blocking. It's not cuck blocking, it's cuck blocking. So you'll find out what that means and how it impacts cuckolding couples. And also talking a little bit about the emotional caretaking of cucks and really recognizing what that is and how much of a mental load that is for women to carry in a cuckolding relationship. Um, okay, Mistress B, my guest for today, she's going to join me for a pillow talk live chat event in the Queen's Quarters community. So mark your calendars for August 14th at 3 p.m. Pacific time, that's 6 p.m. Eastern. You can go to VenusCuckled just.com, click on the events page, and find out how you can register for that. It's free to join live. And if you belong to any of the fan supporter tiers to support this show, then you do get access to the replays. The if you can't make it live.

Send Cuck Porn Links

SPEAKER_00

Okay, and before we jump into this show, I have just one announcement, and it's a big one. It's that time of year again. Time for me to do one of those insanely popular episodes of cuck porn writing and review done by Venus myself. Yes. So I've done a few of these over the years. These are wildly popular, super fun to do. Um, basically, like years ago, I thought, well, all these guys are talking about their favorite cuck porn videos. Like, there must be some really good ones out there. And I just haven't come across them. So I, you know, I asked people to send them to me. I was like, can you, you know, send me your favorites? And so that's how it started. And I watched those videos and I rated them. I reviewed them. I made an episode out of it for the first time, and that was fucking actually hilarious because it was actually um quite surprising for me to watch those. I didn't generally didn't love them in the same way, but it's entertaining to watch them, to review them. Anyway, um, so I've been doing them every once in a while since then. Usually about once or twice a year, I'll do a cuck porn rating and review show. And so it's time to do another one. So I do want you guys to send me your favorite cuck porn videos. Feel free to include a little note about why it's your favorite, what or what parts you like. Um and then, but I also this time, you guys, now that you kind of like know a little bit about what I like and what I don't like, I would love for you guys to please send me your cuck porn videos that you've come across where you're like, you watch it and you think, damn, I think Venus would not appreciate this. Send me the worst. Send me the worst of the worst. Send me the most hilarious, send me the fucking most fake, send me like the tackiest, send me all of those. Because I also want to do a rating reviews for the shit, the shit pile. I think that would be so fun. Cause like I know there's a lot to choose from out there. So you know, I think you guys know if you've listened to my rate cuck porn rating review show before, you kind of have an idea. Send it to me. Um, okay, you where to send it to. This is important. I need to keep them all in one place because you guys do flood my inboxes everywhere with cuck porn videos. Please don't send them to my DMs and my socials. Okay, just don't, because like I don't look there. In fact, uh I don't even like know how to find the messages there because they're like they go to some weird folder. Anyway, um, please just use either two methods, email them to me, not the videos, just the links, to Venus at Venuscuckledress.com. Okay. Or you can use the contact form on my website. That's Venuscuckledress.com. There's a contact page there. Just send it that way. Either way, it goes to my email inbox, and that way I can keep it all organized. Okay, you don't need to flood me everywhere else. Just do that. Thank you. All right, that's it for announcements. Let's jump into the show today with Mistress B. Welcome

Mistress B’s Origin Story

SPEAKER_00

to the show, everyone. Um, I have a really great guest today. Her name is Mistress B. Mistress B, thanks for joining me today. Say hello to all the listeners.

SPEAKER_01

Hello, listeners, and thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00

I'm so excited about this because I know a little bit about your story. And from what I know, there's some really, really good stuff that I can't wait to dive into. Stuff that I really haven't explored a lot on this show yet, but I know there's a lot of interest about this topic from the listeners. But first, let's kind of start out where this all began. And I understand you've been married to your cuck husband now for 25 years. You guys were, what was that like high school that you met?

SPEAKER_01

That was high school. Yes. Yes, he got in trouble and he got placed next to me because I was the nerd and the rest is history.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Aww. Um, okay, so you got you've been married for 25 years, and how long have you been like hot wifing, cuckled and kind of in in this lifestyle?

SPEAKER_01

Um, so I started like around 39. And okay, so that's been a little over 11 years now. Um, and it was because he suggested it, not me. Yeah, this totally, this totally came from him. Um, we were having lots of fun fantasies about bringing another person into our dynamic, another male into the dynamic. And the fun fact of it all was he and I were um had only been with each other this entire time because we met in high school and stuff. So he was very much into why don't we bring somebody else in? And I was more like, oh my gosh, what's wrong with me? You know, you start thinking all those crazy thoughts that he doesn't love me anymore. And and then through a ton of communication between him and I, um, I really started to come around to the idea. And it was a lot of fantasy play that we were having, you know, just different things while we were fucking. And it turned into honestly, it started with a dare. And we were going out to a party, and it was a Halloween party, and he was Prince Charming, and I was Snow White, sexy Snow White, and you can probably see that. Um, and as we were driving, um, he said, I dare you to come on to one of the people at the party and tell them you want to fuck them. And I said, I can't do that, no. And then he called me chicken. Nobody, nobody calls me chicken. So of course I took that as game on. I need to like, I can't not not do it. So um I had a bunch to drink because I needed some liquid courage to um do it. And I walked up to somebody at the party, and it took a lot of effort, needless to say. And my anxiety was through the roof. And I just I walked up and I all I remember saying was, I'd like to fuck you on your boat. Because you have a boat. Now it was Halloween, right? So that wasn't happening then. But and I guess he looked over my shoulder and my husband just put his beer bottle up to him, like, cheers, friend, like you're all set. I'm giving the okay. Well, then all of a sudden it was real, right? A lot of this was just fantasy and conversation, and it became it became real at like real fast. And uh nothing happened that night, but then there was just there was plans, and then we moved forward with this one person just a few times, and um from there things have evolved a lot from that first moment, and yeah, lots of emotions and feelings and ups and downs and excitements and not so much excitements.

SPEAKER_00

So that that first time you must have like you must have been so nervous because you've never done anything like that before. Like this was like so new. Non-monogamy was new for you, right?

SPEAKER_01

Non-monogamy was totally new for me. Like we like I didn't even know that was a term. Like I didn't we weren't doing research, you know. I wasn't anyway. Apparently, he was doing a lot of it behind the scenes, and um yeah, so there was a lot of that must have been so nerve-wracking.

SPEAKER_00

I would, yeah, I know what you mean. I didn't even know. I mean, prior to like 2009, I didn't know that non-monogamy was a thing. I didn't know it existed. This was so crazy.

SPEAKER_01

I had no idea. Correct. I did not either. I mean, we all had heard the term swinger, right? And it was just like, oh well, that's not what I am, you know? So I didn't know where I fell in this realm of this worldliness of dynamics when it comes to relationships. Like, I'm like, this is this is different. I don't, yeah. And so the anxiety and oh my gosh, I used to hug the toilet for hours before going out with people because I was because I was a nervous wreck for the whole thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think that like people don't really understand, like for for women, especially, this is so um outside of our comfort zone in the beginning. Like it's really wild. Yes, but you did it, you did it. Liquid courage helped, and you did it, and you got over it, and you liked it, it sounds like.

SPEAKER_01

I did, I did. Um, I he, you know, my cuck was there for the first time, and everybody had too much to drink, so things did not go according to plan. Oh, damn. Womp womp. Uh-huh. But um, but what was exciting was after that we had to quickly finish up everything because we all were going to a party afterwards together with all people that we knew. Uh and talk about excitement because now we all the three of us knew what just happened, and all these other people there had no idea. So it was like we're just like staring at each other from across the room, making eyes and everything else, and every now and then a smirk, and you know, brushing up against each other here and there, just because it was just this new exciting environment. And we're like, oh, this is our little three, some secret, you know.

SPEAKER_00

So was your husband just like out like fucking loving it?

SPEAKER_01

Or I can imagine. Yeah, he was he he was totally fucking loving it. Um, he was just he was blown away by the whole like he he didn't realize how much he was gonna enjoy all of it, needless to say. And um, but he started having like questions after.

The Spiral After Going Real

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay. I was gonna ask about this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. And it was all sorts of questions, like, how often are you gonna talk to him? Are you going to go out on dates? Um, I don't like this. And you know, then all of a sudden, like the and I'm like, oh gosh, I don't know what to say. If I say the wrong thing, is this gonna be a stop? Is this gonna be a I like this? So I gotta try to, you know, you tread lightly in the beginning, and yeah.

SPEAKER_00

The cucky spiral. It's so common. Um something that doesn't get talked about enough, honestly, is the emotional spiral that cucks go through after that. The first actually making it into reality. Yes. And how confusing that is for us as women. We're just like, did you do you want this or not? Like, is this okay or is this not?

SPEAKER_01

Right. That was that was a huge part of our it in the beginning, like the first three, four, five months of this was trying to figure out, because I'm like, oh, I shouldn't have done this. Oh, I should have done this, oh, I really like this. And then he's over there going, oh, I'm having jealousy issues. Oh, I don't think I like this. Oh, but I want this. Yeah, there was so much crazy push and pull in the beginning. And it was up and down, and it was tricky, but we made it through again and we've made it happen. And yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I know it's wild. Honestly, with all the couples I've spoken to over the years and some of my experiences with cucks as well, the emotional caretaking that we have to do as the woman in this in this scenario um is a heavy burden to bear. And I, you know, I get it. Like, I totally get it. Like it's an emotional roller coaster for for these guys and something not easy to go through. But like, I want to like really shout out to all the ladies who have to put in that workload to emotionally caretake their husband or partner through this period of spiraling.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. You know what? That's a great way to put it because I totally agree. There was a ton of caretaking, and even like I would say to people, I don't know how he's doing this. Right? Like, I don't know how he's okay with me going to fuck somebody else. You know, in the and now I understand, but in the beginning, I just was like, I give him all the power and grace to do what he needs to do with it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's a good point. That's why cucks are so emotionally strong. Like they are, they can go through it, roll with the punches, like go through the ups and downs, the roller coaster, that like crazy dance of I feel like horny as fuck, but I'm spiraling at the same time. Like, yes, I don't know how they do it. It doesn't sound fun to me. Like, right, don't put me in that situation. Thanks. Like, I would definitely not be rubbing one out. I would be like, fuck this, get me out of here.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. A hundred percent. Me too. I'd just be like, yep, nope, I'm good. Okay, right next.

SPEAKER_00

I find cucks so fascinating. I'm just like, wow, okay, you like this. Okay, let's do this.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they are super strong, aren't they? Like it's incredibly their mindset, it is so strong, it's so impressive.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, absolutely. Okay, so it took several months, you said, until he got over that part and he was good, and there was a lot of emotional caretaking, and so now he's good. Okay, and then you guys kind of like evolved a lot.

Chastity Teasing And Feminization

SPEAKER_00

Like, I feel like you guys have really gone down all the roads and tried the things. Like, how did that all happen?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it was just a lot of um uh I wanted to say boredom. Well, maybe there became some boredom, right? So it was like, okay, what's new and exciting that we can do next? And he started saying stuff to me like, um, how about you start caging me? And I was like, okay, all right, I don't really know much of so I started doing research concerning chastity and everything else. So and gosh, guys, do you know how hard it is to find the perfect chastity device for a male? Like, how many different rings we've gone through, how many different sizes, like the amount of money we've spent on all these different ones to find the right one. Um so, but that became something new and exciting, and then it turned into you know what? This is fun because now I can tease the shit out of you like this. So would tease with just using a vibrator on him on his chest, chastity covered dick. And then it would turn into that's so fun. This is pathetic. This like this is a pathetic little, and I would call it a clitty, your pathetic little clitty, because then it was more of I'm buying you underwear, girls' panties. Um, we found some great websites that were making panties, but to fit men. And so we started just buying all the whenever there was sales, I was buying him a ton of that. Whenever I would go to the store for myself, I would bring home a pair for him. And I would buy him some new panties. I'm like, here you go, here's some new ones. Um, yeah, and then it turned into pantyhose, and he has matching pantyhose that match mine. Um there's all different styles that I've bought him through the years. Um, tell him he needs to shave his legs, paint his toenails. I have bodysuits that I put on him, like, and he absolutely frigging loves it. Like he loves this piece of it where I have like syssified him.

SPEAKER_00

This is like so fascinating to me. Um, it's not a dynamic that I personally like get off on. So I have not explored it myself. I I don't know if I will, but um, I do know some couples who have. And it's so it's so like I don't know a lot about it, so I can't wait to ask you about this. But like, did was it something that he approached you with? Because I will find that like um this seems to be a dynamic that's really for the most part uh brought up by men, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. He okay, he approached me, yeah. So he approached me and he's like, I think, you know, he goes, I really want to keep exploring this FEMDAM relationship with us. He goes, We've got the other part down pat at this point, you know, because you know, being the cook and you know, having my bowls throughout the years and stuff. And he's like, I think we need to really start exploring something that's more for us, just the two of us. And I said, Okay, and I gotta tell you, in the beginning, I was a little like, well, maybe I like to be the one dominated more than you, you know, like, okay, I've never been in this role. So I'm like, all right. So it took a it's it's taken a little bit of you know, understanding, trying to my mindset has to change, right? So it's turned into a lot of um reminders from him every now and then when I'm starting to fail in that role. Okay. So like he'll be like, Hey, here's here's a here's a video. And I'm like, oh, I know what that means. That means he needs a little bit more teasing concerning the sissy fying part of it unless if I'm like, oh hey, tonight when I get home, I want you to clean me up, you know, that sort of thing. So it's like, it's like this whole new realm that's just mostly for the two of us. And it's it's been a it's it's super fun. And I gotta say, the part that I enjoy the most is when he is moaning and so into it just from me turning him into this little female doll for me. Now mind you he's really tall. So it's kind of funny. He's not this little petite man. Um so turning him into my little I call him my sissy my sisy kins turning him into that and I love and I start getting wet when he is just so into it the eyes are rolling back in his head and all I'm doing is teasing the shit out of his caged cock or starting to play with his what we call it the boy pussy. And um and I start you know pegging him or even just fingering and I love to hear him moan with out me having to do the traditional female role with like my bulls. You know it's okay. You know so I'm not sucking his dick. I'm not doing any of that we are not really having normal vanilla heterosex anymore either it's changed.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah so it's more in this where I'm making my my little girl husband come okay so do you guys still have like PIV penis and vagina sex or no?

SPEAKER_01

The only time for the most part we do is when I'm come home from a date because he wants to feel how stretched out I am. Right.

SPEAKER_00

Okay and that's hot as fuck I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_01

That's hot as fuck. That's hot as fuck and he wants to add to the mess that's already there. So I love it.

SPEAKER_00

I I mean that's hot. That's something I could get off on um okay so this is so fascinating to me. So it's not necessarily the act of the how he looks in the panties or like uh what he looks like in the pantyhose or whatever like the lingerie or whatever. It's not that it's not the way it makes him look to you that gets you off. It's the way he gets turned on by doing that that makes you turn that so it's like a feedback loop where you the more turned on he is the more turned on you are so you're just playing the game that gets there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah because it's like I realize that's his authentic self.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

And I'm supporting and getting off on his authentic self. And that's the piece that is like exciting for me and mesmerizing for me.

SPEAKER_00

And yeah I just Okay so none of it feels performative then it feels like this is all very real.

SPEAKER_01

It does okay yeah it's like okay this is this is what he and it's interesting because like one minute he'll say you know he's like yeah I I consider myself a cross dresser and I was like okay and then and it's like once the dude orgasms he's like totally not into any of it. It's the strangest thing really yes it's so funny.

SPEAKER_00

Oh wow and then all of a sudden he goes back to you know the normal person like not normal you know what I mean we have to not clarity yeah where he's just like no the veil is lifted yeah it's uh so he are he comes and he's like okay and then he's like takes everything off and then he's I'm like all right I guess that's done until like a couple days later and then I can see it like building again it's a very very interesting oh it's fucking hilarious how much of the behavior and um personality of men is dictated by their dick and their coming like even just like cuckolding itself there's so much as a woman you have to take into account of whether or not he has come yet like there are cuckold sessions you know where couples have where like he literally is not allowed to come because if he does he'll turn into this little fucking sour puss sitting sitting there in the corner just like sulking like I don't like this anymore. Yes no that uh huh uh yup that's totally a fucking thing and that is fucking stupid as a woman I'm sitting there having my great ass time like getting fucked like feeling great I don't give a fuck about his dick or if he's coming right now like I do not want that to be part of the equation. Why the fuck is this even like relative right now? Right right and then you're sitting there going oh shit oh shit did it did he just did he just oh what the fuck he did ruined fuck blocked cock blocked for sure what the fuck is this shit I don't know this is garbage guys it's amazing how much of what we're doing this lifestyle is dictated by this fucking dick like right across the board across the board yes and where's wait a minute now oh my god I think we just got onto something here like like what the fuck cuck blocking is a thing okay it should not be a thing this is like yeah I don't know it just it deboggles my mind like how much of this we have to tiptoe around the cuck's dick and whether or not he's ejaculated like for fuck's sakes yeah no that's so chastity's great yeah because you know what because you can sit there and just be like mm-mm exactly exactly you know and some of it too is you know I tease the shit out of him with just edging and just giving him like I'll give him ruins and so he'll have a a ruined orgasm and I'll like just play just enough you know and I'll just lots of times I literally just use the vibrator on his dick and I'll just go you know and just for a little bit and then I'll just use some words and then I'll just pull back and then I'll just and then I'll just watch him like just like spurt out a little bit and I'm just like oh and he's like he's

Cuck Blocking And Ruined Orgasms

SPEAKER_00

dying he's dying he's like oh please I'm like no you're done go to bed I did that one time where I because I had always I've seen it like in porn and stuff where they put the vibrator on the cage and I was really excited to try it. So I tried it with this cuck friend of mine and oh wow was that ever fun it was so oddly satisfying to see him just like dribble out of the cage. Isn't it it's very seriously it's very satisfying and you're just sitting there going wow that's all it took that's all it took I know I was like that's fucking simple like zero effort there yeah you just sit there never mind a blowjob where you gotta gag and like fucking all this shit like nah fuck that shit just put him in a cage take out the vibrator done done exactly that's exactly how sometimes it goes over here done love it I love it okay I really adore what you said about um you seeing him for his authentic self in that moment I think that is so beautiful that really made a lot of sense to me because I've been trying to wrap my head around the whole like syssification thing and the feminization thing and stuff like that and I just kind of still not really getting it. And but I get that I understand that when you see somebody for their authentic self and this is why I think for all of the couples I know who do go down this road of feminization and syssification these are couples who've been together a long time. These are couples who know each other really really well and are able to get like so emotionally intimate with each other on that level that probably you couldn't if you didn't know each other all that well right yeah a hundred yeah no a hundred percent and that is a great way to describe it because there's no way like you could do something like that with without having that super deep connection with that person that you've that you've been with for a very long time.

SPEAKER_01

Because you I mean some people would be right some guys would be like mortified or they'd be you know they'd feel shame and that's the I would never want to shame or anybody or have them feel that type of shame unless they're like please shame me you know okay we can go down that road but but you know so it's like he's the one who initially brought it up and I was you know and it was I had to wrap my head around it and then it was like okay now I'm understanding what it means to him and what he's getting out of it. And then it was like that's when I could really get into it.

SPEAKER_00

And it was just like oh this makes sense because I have had a lot of people say that to me I don't get it like I don't understand that and it and it took me a while to really figure out how to explain it to people too you know because yeah I because I've told friends and stuff and they're like what that's really oh I don't understand you know yeah so and then it just it took me a while to process and then I figured it out for myself and I'm like I know what it is without even asking him you know and it was just like and then he's like yeah seriously

Why Authenticity Beats Performance

SPEAKER_00

I was like that's what it is I'm like that's awesome because for a while there I was like I couldn't wrap my head around the part where why would it like I in my mind it was like okay you want me to dress you up as a woman because that would be considered embarrassing to be a woman like this would be humiliating to to look like a woman to be a woman but then I was like that doesn't make sense because that would be like a compliment to be a woman or like that would be badass to be a woman. So I go I couldn't understand that part of it. But what you're saying is it's actually not about it's not about the clothes or the woman thing or anything.

SPEAKER_01

It's literally about what state of mind you're putting him into it's a state of mind totally and it's like he's like oh I'm relaxed enough to feel my feminine side and it's sexy because he absolutely like loves me wearing anything pantyhose or lingerie like or you know gotters and stockings and all that stuff. He's always been super attracted to that and so for me to have him do it it's just this like the ultimate he's like oh my god they feel so good on me and it's like and I'm like yeah they do they're soft and and when I and when I encourage the feminine piece of it too it's like I like how your legs feel when they're shaved because I do like and it's like I like to rub my legs on his legs and I'm like they feel so nice and he's like you like that can you tell me more like it's like and I'm like yeah and it's and there's like this um innocence to it too and it's like because he just wants you know that acceptance from me because it's he doesn't do anything with anybody else except for my bull and and myself you know so he doesn't have anybody else on the side or anything so he's getting all his gratification and stuff from from me. So yeah so I have I have a I have an interesting role to play when it comes to this too.

SPEAKER_00

So he's kind of like on his journey to reach queen status like you like he kind of is right that's a good way to put it if I could think about like that way then I can I can admire it more.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like yeah you want to be badass like me like let's do it let's do it let's do it so uh what has it been like for you with bulls are you like uh I have you know a stable of bulls going on or are you like no I like to have like one connected bowl I tried the stable I tried that for a little bit um yeah it was too much it was a lot for me and I decided I'm gonna say I'm gonna settle down um and um found one connected bowl that I was with for like three years and then and then came came along another one and now we've been five years so and it's been fantastic because it's been able to um the relationship has become a very strong caring connected relationship that has and he's doing stuff the bull's doing stuff that he had never thought he would do oh so he's on his own journey of uh exploration he's on his own journey of exploration big time as well in support of myself and sissy cook yeah so the three of us have had learned so much in our little five years together and we've all been doing a ton of exploration in all sorts of ways and doing a lot of firsts together.

SPEAKER_00

How did you meet this guy?

SPEAKER_01

So I met him in my personal life and uh it was an interesting scenario how it played out. I had uh met him once in the past and I thought he was kind of an asshole um really yeah he was just kind of like I don't know I did I couldn't read him well you know

Choosing One Bull For Connection

SPEAKER_01

and I was just like oh this guy's kind of a jerk. Um and you know he came into my life again and all of a sudden I was like oh wait a minute this might be a fun time like because I was just getting um out of the other long-term relationship that I had had with the other bull okay and there was somebody else in the mix at the same time um so all of a sudden there was three of them so talk about the stable again right and but then I was like yeah I can't I can't keep doing this this is too much um so I got yeah so I started um flirting the like super flirty and I would say I would just drop words that I didn't know if he would know oh like I accidentally said I I don't I think I I don't remember the word I was trying to say but I said the word cock actually and he goes cock I know what that means and I'm just like and I was like oh shit okay yep this might be a good match I think he understood it's like fishing it's like fishing you're like you're gonna get a bite exactly I got a bite and so then it turned into some fun um picture exchanges and conversations and he's like can I take you out and I'm like oh my god yes I'd love to and um my husband I had to tell him I'm like so yeah there's another person I met he was like he goes aren't you happy with the other two and I'm like well time to move on I think and um I'm so glad we did because this has been the best we've had by far. It's been phenomenal for the yeah and I remember him saying the bull in the beginning he was like I'm hoping for longevity with this and I was like oh I had never had anybody say that to me yeah and it was like all right yeah we'll see we'll see how this goes and yeah I'm glad he he had his head in the game from the beginning and it was it was obvious and it was like but I didn't you know I was just like all right just you know another one in the stable but yeah I'm so glad he did oh that's exciting so um so with your dynamic with your husband um was this like the first bull that your husband got involved with sexually as well yes oh yes because in the past he would go to the hotels he would sit in the corner he you know he would he would be around every now and then they would come you know to our house you know we would host sometimes and he would be around or he'd be in the other room listening but this it took a couple years this wasn't right out of the gate you know so with the with the current bull he it was like we had the conversations we talk the fantasies wouldn't it be naughty if you know you just grabbed his cock and put it inside me and I noticed the reaction that was that was definitely happening from my husband and and so then I would bring it up to the bull and he's like oh I think we can do that now he has never ever done anything like that in his life either so and there you know I gotta be honest it didn't take a lot of convincing on either end for it. They

Husband Joins Forced Bi Play

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it was just they both pleasers and so they were like okay let's let's just ease into it so it it took some conversation but not too crazy and it took a little bit of planning to make it work where all three of us could be in the same location at the same time to make it happen. And I still remember the first night it that we were trying to make it happen and and it was my husband that got a little like oh I don't know if I could do this. Really? Yeah so he got he got nervous and you know we all slept in the same bed together and you know it was great because I had one hand on each cock at one point and we were just having a lot of fun that way but there was never anybody the two guys would never touch or anything right that that time. So fast forward a couple I don't know six months later I probably and um that's when it finally they you know bull came over him and I were just fooling around and then I called my husband into the room and it was just like I was sucking the bull's dick and I was just like here grab I'm like grab this and he was like oh okay and he's like are you sure I don't like do it you know now of course on my end I'm like am I gonna like this am I not gonna like this do I am I getting turned on from this you know so there was like this whole and um and I saw how much he enjoyed it both my husband was enjoying the shit out of it and I'm like oh my god he's not even gagging what the fuck natural skills natural skills what the hell he can teach me more so and and it was interesting because I like literally put my body I positioned it just so so the bull wasn't watching because I'm like what's in his head you know because he's never had a guy do this to him so it was this weird like I'm like I'm trying to protect everybody and keep like you know and so the next day he goes I wish your body wasn't in the way I wanted to see I was like what the hell why didn't you tap my tap me on the shoulder and say can you move so it was kind of funny like and so at you know the next day everybody was like wow that was a lot of fun what can we do next like enjoyment had by all and I was sitting there going oh that was a lot of fun I enjoyed the crap out of it too because at first I'm like am I gonna be like well he's mine why are you doing that yeah you know what I mean but there was none of that it was great it was like let's share this is fun oh my god yeah it was just it was exciting and everybody everybody loved it I love that you guys all three of you popped that cherry all at once where you were just like all right let's do this yeah yeah yeah all of us were just like well shit it's happening I guess we're Doing it.

SPEAKER_00

And it worked out great. Oh, that's so good. Thank God. That's amazing. Yeah. Um, okay, so what other kind of like fun things you get him to? So you get him to suck your bull's dick. Do does your bull ever fuck him?

SPEAKER_01

No, that piece, I don't know if that's ever gonna happen. Okay. But that has um the next piece of the puzzle is I think there might be a train that'll be pulled. Yeah. So I'll fuck the husband, the bull will fuck me. Yeah. And I think that's gonna be like the next time we're all together.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Okay. Because like for one, you know, I've gotten f I've gotten what I was hoping for with the three of them, which I definitely needed a like in my life. I was like, I need to try a DP. Yeah. And I mean, I can't like that was because you know, you see it on porn, right? And you're like, yeah, that looks like that hurts. Oh, they're professionals. Does it really hurt? Nah, because I I enjoy anal anyway, so I was like, I can do this. I got it. I got it. You know, and I've had dildo there and Dick, you know, my pussy. So I was like, let's try it. So I gotta tell you, it was so invigorating. I felt like I felt like fucking Queen Bee. I was like, yep, I'm the shit right now. Literally, I'm getting all of this. And I like I can't wait to do that again. But this time I'm like, yeah, and it was with my husband in the bowl, and I'm like, okay, yep, no, we're bringing a bigger dick in next time. So that'll be the next awesome. That'll be the next play.

SPEAKER_00

I've never done DP, but I did I do do DVP with two of my favorite guys, and I fucking loved that. Like, I was like, I would like more of that, please.

SPEAKER_01

Right. It's so fun. And I've done that, but with a dildo. Yeah, because I'm like, this I loved being filled to that brim.

New Firsts From DP To Trains

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You know.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you're like me. You like that sensation. I love it. I just fucking can't get enough. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, you know, give me the fist, do whatever you gotta do. Like, yeah. Yeah. I'm a little bit of a freak. Oh, you're my girl. I love it. I love it. Size queen. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. I have certain preferences.

SPEAKER_00

This lifestyle is made for us size queen girlies.

SPEAKER_01

I I agree. Because I was like, oh my God, I've been missing out for so long. Right.

SPEAKER_00

I know. I've had experiences in this lifestyle where I was just like, man, I think about my life before that, not knowing that any of this kind of this kind of level of pleasure was possible. I'm like, damn, like I was missing out. Like I had no idea that I could have my mind blown out like this. Like this is fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Agreed. No, I'm saying because I'll think back and I'm like, oh my God, all those years. Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_00

Because you were vanilla as fuck for a long last time.

SPEAKER_01

Vanilla as fuck.

SPEAKER_00

And I'm like, at the time you thought you were having pretty good sex.

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Yes.

SPEAKER_00

It was doing the job. And then meanwhile, now you're just like, whoa, mind blown.

SPEAKER_01

Mind, yeah. Uh absolutely. I'm like, whoa, wow. I can't. Yeah. And it's almost like, oh yeah, I can't ever go back to just Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I think that's probably similar to most people like it who explore kink um or anything that's really kind of outside of the box of regular vanilla sex, where you're just like, the more you learn about it, the more you realize, wow, I really didn't even know any of this was possible. Like, I feel like I've been teleported to a new universe. This is amazing.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. And it's like literally, I want to just shout that out to everybody and be like, guys, listen, there's this whole nother world out there. And it just everybody just needs to know about it. So you can just try it once. If you like it, great. If you don't, okay, great too. But it's like I didn't know this was a thing. Yeah. And I didn't know it was allowed, you know, according to societal ways and stuff, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I really do think that if if we sell it to women on these different angles rather than this is just about you getting to fuck other guys, like if we sell this to women as in like, you know, this is really a gift of exploration. And I'm sure you're gonna have lots of shitty sex. I mean, you went through the stables. There's some really great ones, there's some really bad sex out there. I mean, there's some sex I would love to forget. Like, terrible. Yep. I was like, fuck how terrible. But but there are those really once-in-a-lifetime experiences where you're like, holy shit, that was that was something else. That was something I never thought was possible.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, yes, orgasms that are your legs are shaking, your whole body shaking, almost like you're literally cum drunk, like, and you're not on any substances, and you're just literally like mind-blown, can't catch my breath. I'm dizzy as fuck because I just had the most incredible 30-second orgasm, and it's just like this is possible. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there's this guy who comes over once a week. He were he worships my pussy once a week. He's fucking amazing. And I know, and um, I swear I've been like afterwards, I've been like, I can't speak properly. Like can't I can't form words, I can't form sentences. I'm just I I want to say something. I start saying a couple words, and then I just like, I'm like, never mind. Can't do it.

SPEAKER_01

That's yes, you say you totally know. You know, it's yeah, it's like, oh my god, what just happened?

SPEAKER_00

No, can't I can't do it right now. I can't talk.

SPEAKER_02

Love it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but I think you know, more women would probably be willing to, you know, explore if they knew the possibilities of what was out there. Uh, there's so many reasons why women don't want to, but um, one of the things I wanted to say earlier about the syssification feminization part of your dynamic, which is interesting, like I said, most this what I see is that this kind of evolves from a couple who's been together for a really long time, and you kind of have to be really solid like that in order to go down that road together, but both open-minded enough to go down that road together. Um, I do in my matchmaking service get guys who uh really desire the cissification feminization aspect of this dynamic. And they want to lead with that. Like they want to start from that, they want to start a relationship with a woman who's gonna do that right off the bat. Like that has to be how she treats him right off the bat. And I'm just like, I don't know that that's really like the actual reality. Like, I don't, I've never seen that. Maybe in the kink world, like if you were on a fetish website, you could find someone who has a lot of experience in that, but still, you don't you haven't built that relationship yet to be on that level of real intimate, like emotionally naked with each other. I don't know that you could start it out like that. I don't know. What do you think?

SPEAKER_01

That's a that's a really, really great question. I'm gonna be a hundred percent honest, and I don't know if you can really start off anything to that ex like to that level right out of the gate. Because uh, I mean, like you had brought up earlier a little bit about like you didn't use the word role-playing, but like, you know, just kind of like you know, getting to the mood, trying I forgot how you s worded it, but anyway, I'm having one of those orgasms. I forgot too. I'm having one of those orgasms. No, I'm kidding. Um but no, honestly, I feel like it's really uh it's a real deep dive to go into that realm of the syssifications and and so it's like you have to have a lot of respect for each other. You have to have a lot of conversations about it because the boundaries that for each side is, I mean, it's huge. Like in the beginning, when he would first start talking about it, I could find myself going, I

Respect Boundaries And Starting Slow

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don't think I want to do that, you know, in my head, but I never wanted to really say that out loud to him because I didn't want to ever have him feel like what he wanted was wrong or you know, shameful or anything. So, but you know, there was a time where I really had to like sit down with myself and I'm like, okay, he's really looking for this, and we need to talk it through. And what's going to be the best avenue to head that so you are a hundred percent involved and into it as much as he is. And so, and like I said, sometimes I still need little reminders from him, you know, and and I've explained that to him. I'm like, Can you if you start to feel like I'm not giving you enough in that world, in that piece of it, please remind me. You know, and sometimes it's frustrating for him too, because he's like, Well, you know what I need, you know, can I so it takes a lot of nurturing that type, this piece of it. So I yeah, so I don't necessarily think unless somebody, you know, right out of the gate is like just got out of a, you know, sissy relationship is like, this is exactly what I know you need, and da da da. But it's like, is it really that connection, that deep connection that I feel like they're looking for?

SPEAKER_00

Right. Right. Yeah. And so I yeah, I I caution guys with that because I'm like, I don't know that she's you guys are gonna be like able to do that. I think that that's something that you have to kind of evolve into slowly.

SPEAKER_01

Slowly. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Uh well, I think it's amazing that you guys have been able to do this together. And I, you know, amazing that you've been able to navigate this whole journey together without any major pitfalls or you know, anything catastrophic happening. Um and how like and to to share that kind of love and those first-time experiences together. Oh, I love that so much. Um, but one of the things I wanted to ask you about was, and this is like the thing I hear all the time from cucks, is like they feel like if they were to really indulge these fan fantasies with her, that she would lose respect for him. And they don't see how that could not happen. Like they're like, she how could she not lose respect for me if I'm dressed like a woman or if I suck the bullstick or whatever? Like, how like it I could never like I could never indulge that fantasy because she must, you know, think I'm less than a man after that. Like, how how could she not? What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's yeah, so that's a good one. Um so I can speak on our dynamic, right? And you know, at first I I was like, oh huh. Am I more of the man in this relationship, you know? But then I went, no, he is still my man, he is still my husband, he is still that guy that I fell in love with all those years ago. He is still masculine as fuck when he wants to be, and he is feminine as fuck when I want him to be. I love that. So it was like I knew that, you know, you know, for whatever reason, you know, maybe I'm just I'm like, oh yeah, turn your hat on, turn your hat backwards, you know, that's sexy as hell, and you know, show me your muscles or whatever, you know, that where we are like trying to make them super manly. And I was like, eh. I'm like, I like you just I love you just the way you are, and when you're super masculine or you're super feminine. And it's like I have not lost any respect for him at all. In the beginning, I like the thoughts pass through my head, but that's all they were. They were fleeting thoughts. And this is the shit that pisses me off with like how society feels like it has to put everybody in this stupid box, right? Well, like I just said, you have to have muscles or your hat on backwards to be sexy or whatever as a male, and you know, you have to be super cute and girly and frilly and you have to wear these cute things to be female. That's not you can be you however you want to be. You can be freaking masculine as fuck if you feel like you're masculine masculine as fuck. Yeah, you know, so it's like I still respect that man, like you wouldn't believe. Like he is my best friend, he is my my ride or die to the end, and and it's like he's still my he's my man. Even though I'm making him my little bitch sometimes. And I mean, not for nothing. I make him wear um pantyhose and and panties to work sometimes under his when he's going to his, yeah, it's not just in the bedroom because it's fun.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, I love that. It seems like such a playful dynamic that you guys have, and I love that so much. This has been such a fascinating conversation. I really do feel like I have learned so much more about this dynamic. I mean, I have been talking about cuckolding for over a decade now, and I'm still constantly learning about this because I get to explore these conversations with people like yourself. So I really appreciate that. This has been so fascinating for me. I have absolutely fucking adored this conversation and had so much fun.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, me too. Yeah, me too. And I love to be able to get the word out that it's it's okay to be who you need to be. Like, like truly.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I really do think that people who are listening to the show are gonna come away with so much of that. So thank you for that. I really appreciate that. Um, before I wrap this up, I just wanted to give you the opportunity to share. Uh, is it an email address that you have where people can reach out to you and you have some coaching that you do as well?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I do. So if anybody would like to have if you have any more questions or um just want to hit me up and say, hey, you know, I'm interested in having this more of this conversation because I've been doing it for a little while now, um, you can totally reach out to my email and it is um leaves fall. So L-E-A-V-E-S F-A-L-L 46 at gmail.com. And I also um I am a sex and intimacy relationship coach. So if anybody wants to reach out to me on there as well, I'd be more than happy to have conversations.

SPEAKER_00

I think you're gonna get bombarded because like you seem like the right person to talk to, especially for uh for people who want to explore this dynamic. You know how many guys have contacted me over the last decade, been like, I really am into the sissy thing, but I don't know how to bring this up to my wife, or I don't know how to incorporate, like, I don't know what to do, I don't know what steps to take for this. You'd be like the perfect person for them to talk about this, because like you've got all of this experience. So I will include that email in the show notes for today. Uh so if you want to reach out to Mistress B, ask her uh questions, or want to ask her about her coaching, you can do that. And thank you so much for being on the show, Mistress B. This has been so fun.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you, everyone, for having me. I I'm like, I just had such a fun time too. I love talking about it.

SPEAKER_00

That's gonna be it for today's episode. Thank you so much for joining me. Make sure you go to VenusCuckoldress.com. That's where you can book a private chat with me. And you can also join the Queen's Quarters community and get all the amazing benefits like the private podcast and the

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