Update Episode! What Happened After Getting Cucked by BBC in a Pussy-Free Marriage?

Last October I did an episode with Zack titled: 

Pussy-Free Marriage Leads to Getting Cucked by BBC - listen here https://www.buzzsprout.com/822292/episodes/18065925-pussy-free-marriage-leads-to-getting-cucked-by-bbc

This episode he is back and here to give an update on how things have changed in the past year. 

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Welcome And Update Setup

SPEAKER_00 1:11

This is the Venus Cuckolders Podcast, a place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious, for the passionate, and for the sexually empowered woman who wants it all.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

Let's go.

SPEAKER_00 1:39

Welcome to the show. I'm your host, Venus. Thanks for joining me today. I have the funnest episode for you. It's an update episode. So almost a year ago, October 25th of last year, I released an episode called Pussy Free Marriage Leads to Getting Cucked by BBC. And I'm sure a lot of you guys listened to that one. There was a lot of downloads. It was a Zach telling his story about how his wife uh cucked him and how they're they were have been pussy free for in him in chastity for like a couple of years, no PIV sex. So um it was a really fun episode. It was a great, uh, great story. And he's back to give an update. And there's been a lot that has changed in the last year. Some good, some not good, some everything in between. So I think you're really gonna love this one. Um, but before we jump into it, uh, few announcements.

Motorbunny Deal Plus Announcements

SPEAKER_00 2:40

Um, as you probably already heard in the intro, uh, for this episode, I have partnered with Motorbunny. And you guys know I don't I don't run a lot of ads. I just I've never I've been lucky. I don't have to rely on that for income. Uh for my podcast, I rely on the income from my supporter tiers, my helpful cut group, um, to be able to do this as my full-time job. So I don't have to run a lot of ads in my podcasts. I've never had to. Um, I usually only just pick things that I really absolutely love or people who I want to promote or whatever and run ads um for them. But when I was when I was approached by Motor Bunny, I was just like, oh fuck yes. Because I just got my first Motor Bunny this year. I tried one a long time ago and I had the most like I feel like this orgasm was insane. I I launched myself into space. So that's what it felt like. Um, so anyway, I when I got a Motor Bunny machine this year, I was like, holy fuck, this is what I've wanted for so long, and I was so excited. So I got the original machine. For those of you who don't know, the Motor Bunny is like um, it's like a ride-on sex machine for women, but it's for couples too, because like a guy can oh my god, uh there's so much fun that can be had. Um, but it's insane. It's got the dick, it's got the vibrator, it's got all the things, it's got the most insane fucking power to it. And I was just so excited to be able to partner with them. So now I'm getting the the other version of Motor Bunny, which is the machine, which is uh called the Buck. So this one um it fucks you, but like the dick goes like up and down in you instead of the just like, oh my god. Anyway, whatever. It's trust me, so fucking amazing, and I can't wait to try this out. So I've partnered with Motor Bunny and um partnership made in fucking Venus Orgasm Heaven. So if you use the link uh that is in the show notes for today, or just go to motorbunny.com slash Venus, you can get $50 off your own Motor Bunny machine. So all the guys who are listening to this, because I know it's mostly guys, um, you absolutely fucking want to get one for your girlfriend, for your wife, for your friends with benefits for for all those reasons and bulls, bulls. If you have one of these, oh my god. Yeah, you're gonna be popular.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

Let me just tell you that.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

So go to motorbunny.com slash Venus and get yourself one. Get $50 off. It comes off at the discount comes off at the checkout. Okay, next, and I mentioned a little bit about this in the episode today, but um let me just say the app Field, Field can go eat a bag of fucking dicks. Little shrimpy wiener dicks, okay? Because I am not happy with Field at all. I've been on and off Field for a few years, like barely on it at all. Rarely ever use it. But I was on it um a few times in the last year looking for uh people who are local to me, uh, mostly anyway, um, for friends with benefits and things like that. So I got I kept getting these emails saying like that people were reporting me for um soliciting services, which I was just like, I kept emailing them back. Like there's there's absolutely no way I don't mention anything in there about my podcast, about anything, like literally nothing. It's just for personal use. And I would never I I've talked to maybe five people ever on that app. And never ever have I solicited any kind of services. So I knew this was bullshit. And I kept emailing them back and saying, like, this is bullshit. And they were like, oh, it's okay. We're just this is the first step of whatever. And then I all of a sudden, for no fucking reason, out of the blue, get banned from their app. And so I contacted them and I was like, look, like this is a mistake. I feel like people are reporting my profile because something in there excludes these guys and they are getting butthurt about it. Because I say in the in the in my profile, or did uh what I was looking for and what I absolutely was not looking for. And I feel like that's the only reason I can think of that guys would be reporting me for imaginary reasons was because they were butthurt that I didn't want them. So oh, the life of is existing as a woman these days. Fucking annoying. Anyway, so I explained this to them like like there's a mistake, like this is absolutely not possible. And they just double field just doubled down, and they were like, no, no, no, not not gonna reinstate your your account. And I was just like, fuck you. Beyond fucking pissed off, like that is just bullshit. Anyway, I did say something on my Instagram about, I think on my other socials too about it, and it was crazy the number of people, women who responded and said, Hey, this happened to me too. Something similar happened happened to me on field as well. And I was like, what the fuck? Why is this happening to us? So anyway, putting this out there, field can eat a bag of dicks, go fuck yourselves, fucking idiots. And for all the butthurt idiot morons who fucking love to just report women's profiles because there's something on there that you don't like, go fuck yourselves with some little dicks in your ass. No, big ones, no lube in your ass. Go fuck yourselves. So that's about it for that. But anyway, last announcement. I have a pillow talk coming in coming up, and you're not gonna want to miss this one because this is Mistress B. We had so much fun on the show recently, it was a few episodes back. Hers was titled Make Him Wear Panties, Fluff the Bull, and Beg for More. She was so much fun, okay? She talked about all sorts of fun stories about how she cucks the fuck out of her husband and feminizes him and does all the things. And so she's gonna join me for a live pillow talk event in the Queen's Quarters community. It's free to join live. So if you are a member of the Queen's Quarters community, which is free to join, uh, then you can um join in. And so it's just a really casual, fun little hangout that we do. You can ask questions to Mistress B or myself and just have a lot of fun in there. So that is gonna be mark your calendars September 18th. It's a Friday, and it's gonna be at 3 p.m. a specific time. So that is 6 p.m. Eastern time. So come and spend your Friday afternoonslash evening with us. Okay, that's it for announcements. Let's jump into the show today. Here we go. Okay,

Zach’s Backstory And First Cuck Experience

SPEAKER_00 9:58

joining me on the show. I have uh a guest who's been on the show before. He goes by the name of Zach, and he was on the show back in October of 2025. His episode was called Pussy Free Marriage Leads to Getting Cucked by VVC. Zach, welcome back to the show.

SPEAKER_02 10:17

Hey, Venus, good to see you again.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

This is so funny because I remember like your show.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

I didn't realize until like halfway through uh talking with you that you were pussy free.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

Like I and I was just like, what? I was like, where did that come from? I had no idea. Anyway, I remember so many things about your episode was tons of fun. And it got a lot of downloads. I think because like there's this real fascination with pussy-free marriage. Um, that's like, I don't know what it is, but there's a lot of interest about that. But also that could be kecked by BBC. I mean, I know my audience. Uh lots of you guys listening are like fucking wanking to the BBC porn. So that definitely was a big thing. But um, that was a great episode where you talked about a little bit about um what was going on with how your you and your wife were getting into um cuckolding at that time. And I remember she said, like at that time, you were talking about how she was into some femme dummy things, like the the sexual denial, the chastity part, right? Um and you guys were having lots of fun with that. But she was interested at that time in cuckolding, but not like diving in. I remember you saying like she was afraid that she would love it too much and that it would be detrimental, but that she had cucked you with this guy. And we went into detail in that episode a little bit about what that was like for you during that time when you got cucked for the first time. So um just like a do you want to just give a little recap uh from for for the listeners who are listening right now who haven't listened to that episode? What would what was that episode like for you? And um, where you where were you guys at at that moment in time?

SPEAKER_02 13:04

Uh well, first of all, I was very nervous to talk to you. Now I feel like I can talk to you anytime. I've listened to all your podcasts. This feels really natural all of a sudden, which is awesome. Yeah, you're uh but no, um, you know, as I explained in the past, you know, back in the day, I mean, I used to be a little bit of a man whore. I just kind of, you know, deal with who whatever with whoever. Uh so I kind of had my fill, and when I met her, like, I'm just like, oh, she's the one. I just want to give her everything. It's all about her. I kind of put my knees to the side. And I had kind of mentioned a few things, you know, about cuckolding, and I didn't even really narrow it down to specific race, just kind of in generalizing it. And she didn't take that too well. And this is years in the making, and uh, we start with a lot of podcasts, uh, years in particular. Uh, we also like strictly anonymous, just because some of that stuff on there is wild, which doesn't have to do with cuckolding. Some of her stuff is like out of this world what people do. I think I'm years. No, I'm like, no, we're we're normal as shit. Um, and then we got into like the femom. She got a little more power, and we did the chastity uh and a few other things. And then we, yeah, we finally had this meetup, and it was beyond amazing. And she was like hooked and like loved it. Everything from like the preparation three days beforehand till the evening to like the morning after. She liked everything about it. Um, and I kind of chatted with you. Uh, and of course, you know, we're busy. It's a lot of people listen to a podcast and they think people in lifestyle do this for like seven days a week.

SPEAKER_01 14:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

Like you we gotta make plans. Like, we also go out of town, we don't do it around here. So, like, it's a lot of coordination. And uh, so after your podcast, she was still like rear-in and like loving it. And uh, she went out of town a couple times for work and tried to meet a couple people, and like they would say, Oh, I'm here, and like no one's at the door. And it's like, are you kidding me? Like, why waste our time? Uh, go to the bar, and then guys are asking her to buy drinks for them. And I'm just like, Oh no, this is it's not what this is about. Um, and uh, so after that, we took a break for probably six months. Uh, and then thank god she let off the chassis just a little bit. So I did get a little action. I've gotten a little action here lately, guys. So yeah, yeah. So um, but we're you know, when the sun comes out and it's summertime, the the warmer weather just turns her on. I'm like, okay, here's round two. Let me give this a chance. Um, and I was like, you know, fuck it. Because she she's sick of the apps. Tinder is a completely waste of time. I know you've used field. Have you had any luck on that?

SPEAKER_01 16:04

Oh, I got kicked off of field. I got banned for life.

SPEAKER_02 16:08

Well, I I I saw that post. I'm like, what in the world did you do to get banned from life from like a like an app like that?

SPEAKER_00 16:16

I literally did nothing. I did nothing. I just exist as a woman, and I guess I'd I've and then since I got banned, and I I've put it out there, hey, I got banned. Like I've had so many women, especially in the hot wifing realm, so many women have said I got banned too for no fucking reason. It's like, it's almost like if you put on there that you're looking for like something that's that's different that it kind of excludes some guys, then they will get so butthurt that they just like report you for some imaginary shit. And that's what must have happened in my case because I contacted Field and they were like, uh, you know, we've got reports that you are soliciting services. And I was like, what? There's nothing about my podcast on there. There's nothing about there's literally nothing on there that is soliciting anything. So I was like, okay, and I've talked to maybe, I've chatted with maybe like five guys off of field ever. And like, so I was like, this is bullshit. Like, there is no way that someone mistakenly thought I was soliciting. So anyway, they just fucking flat out banned me. I contacted them and I was like, this is bullshit. Like, what evidence do you have? And they're like, we can't share the evidence, but trust us, there is some. And I was like, fuck no, that is impossible. Like, there is no way. But luckily, like a week before that happened, I did connect with a bull who was actually here locally on business. And so, uh, and he comes here quite often. So I was like, okay, this might work out right before I fucking got banned. So field, eat a bag of dicks, motherfuckers. Okay, that's all I gotta say about that.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

So yeah, we we tried that. We tried a tinder is like, I feel like all fake. Um, yeah, we've had a little success with FetLife. Uh, I feel like I don't know, half of the guys are fake, half of them are legit and real, but they all want to get on Snapchat. We're just too busy for that. Like, she doesn't want her phone blowing up 24-7. Now, mind you, if it's like that weekend, like it's her weekend, go for it. Yeah, you know, but she can't be in a meeting at nine o'clock and seeing some guy jerking it off, you know. Like, um, so we've had some success on that. Um, and I just said, you know, I said, fuck it, let's just go to a swingers club, and there's people that's gonna be

Why Apps Fail And Clubs Work

SPEAKER_02 18:50

there. And if you find someone, let's just kind of make it happen. Because we've spent so much time trying to plan stuff, and like people don't show up, or they do, and they look completely nothing like their picture. Like, yes, that might have been your picture 10 years ago, but life hasn't been good to you, buddy, and like you don't look nothing like you did 10 years ago, yeah, and that's not fair to her because she's all 100% real, accurate, all the pictures are up to date. Um, so um we started trying out some sex clubs, and uh we've had actually quite a bit of success from that on two different spectrums. One, she's been able to hook up. On two, it boosts her confidence, and everything that I'm saying is accurate, like you're hot, they want you, and she just loves the experience. And it may not be for everyone, because it's a little overwhelming. I mean, you walk into some of these places, and it's like it's pretty wild the stuff you see.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

It's it's it's wild, but uh it's exactly what you think it's gonna be. When you're imagining it and you've got all this crazy shit happening in your head, and you're like, it can't possibly be like it is.

SPEAKER_02 20:07

Yeah, you just go through like one door, close the other door, and it's like boom, boom. It's like adult, you know, Wonderland. Yeah, so uh we've had a ton of success with that. Uh, like the first night we went, she spent like four days beforehand. You know, she uh she went and got her nails done, she went shopping, and and she's actually side note for you chicks, she's so dumb with like some of these online boutiques, she's just going to like the old school mall, and which is kind of awesome for me as a cuck. She sent me like eight outfits. Which one looks best? Well, I'm like, well, that one looks way shorter. Go with that. So, like, I had some fun before we even got there. Um, she pick out lingerie and all this stuff and try it on. And uh then we went, and the first night, um, she actually was really confident and uh good, and we we met a lot of people and did a lot of talking, but we just didn't have what she was looking for. And I was like, Well, we're not leaving on an empty note. So uh they had like a fucking machine.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Okay, wait, is it a Motor Bunny?

SPEAKER_02 21:16

We tried that one, she didn't like that one. This is the thrusting one.

SPEAKER_00 21:20

Oh, that oh, Motor Bunny has the thrusting one now.

SPEAKER_02 21:24

Oh, it does okay, yeah. The one they had was just like the vibe. She's like, this ain't doing it.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:29

So uh we did the up, yeah, because she's all about the thrusting.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

Yeah. So uh she used that and sported all over the place. And then uh she got like a little upset next morning. She's like, I just really thought I'd find someone to fuck me. I'm like, well, you know, it's like going shopping, you're always gonna get what you want, you know. Um, so we went back the next night, and uh instantly we sat down, like four guys approached us. Cause like they we I made sure I had the door open when she was playing with the toy, so like it was a little more inviting.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:09

Uh so uh we sit down, she's chatting four of them, and within like an hour, she's like, It's that guy right there. And I'm like, Okay, okay, that that's cool. And she's like, but I just don't want to do it right away. I'm like, take your time. So, you know, she drank some drinks, just kind of chatted. She doesn't ever want to feel forced. And and I want to come back to that later about the forced stuff. And uh she just enjoyed night and she's like, I'm ready to go. And I went upstairs with them, and she took the clothes off and she put on lingerie. And the craziest part was, you know, I think a lot of cucks think like, oh, they're just gonna get to it. It's like porn. You just drop down and like start blowing them, you know. No, no, she climbed on top and they made out for a while and did a bunch of like just grinding close to lawn, like getting what she wanted out of the whole experience. She was kind of in charge whether he thought he was or not. And uh then they just start going at it and fucking, and it was everything she absolutely wanted, but it was kind of the only way it worked is if she was in control of it. I I can't pick the guy, that's never gonna work. Yeah, you know, I mean, I can think I have an idea of what she likes, uh, but I I have more of an idea of what she dislikes, and I think that's kind of why I'm in the role I am. Like, mm-hmm, he said that, you're not gonna like that. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 23:46

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:47

Um, but that experience was amazing. Uh we had a couple little hiccups during it. Um, not once but twice the condom broke.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 24:00

Yeah. Uh but. We didn't really stop for that, so yeah, anyways. Um, so that was interesting. But they finished, she felt amazing, she gave me a kiss, like everything's good. Like, there is post-nut clarity, but I think when you do it right, it's not like, oh, I did this the wrong way. Like, as a coach, you gotta take your time, plan it out, make sure she feels how she wants to feel. Um, so that's kind of the first experience, and then it's just kind of imploded from there. Um, so for guys that are like constantly on apps and texting for hours on end, hey, what do you think about her? What do you think about this? Like, maybe just go out.

SPEAKER_01 24:46

Yes, yes, go in the real world and meet people.

SPEAKER_02 24:51

Maybe not even, you know, maybe just go to a bar and be like, hey, we're kind of into this. If you feel like there's a connection or whatever, uh I think the apps have made it so fake and so unrealistic, it it can turn off the women real quick.

SPEAKER_00 25:08

I just want to just pause, hold that thought for a second, because I want to, I want to just share something with you about this and to those listeners. What you're saying is so fucking real. Um, because over the probably like the last 10 years, most of the guys, nearly all of the guys who I fucked with, and there's some some have been really great, I have met either like at Splash Mocha or um online, most of them online, I would say. Um through my podcast or on Fet Life or whatever, I have met them, or referrals through other women in the lifestyle. But recently recently, recently, something different happened. I was staying in a hotel and I went to the pool. I was wearing a skimpy Maison

Meeting In The Wild Feels Better

SPEAKER_00 25:55

de Neige uh bathing suit, which for those of you listening, Maison de Neige is like the most incredible um clothing line that features a lot of Queen of Spades clothing. And she actually did um a Venus line within that that is that's awesome, that has like the most beautiful colors and has things um with that have to do with the owl, because the owl is the simple for the cuck, always watching in the night. And so this bathing suit is super low cut in the chest and super high cut on the waist, and um and it has like the owl on the front. Okay, so I was wearing that at the pool. Well, there was this um this guy who was pretty cute, who was um sitting on the edge of the pool, and he was like half black and just looking good. And I was like, hmm, hi. Anyway, he came up to me and talked to me and was like very confident as the black guys are. Um and like I was like, I'll give you my number 100%. So then I was like, Do you want to come up to my room? Anyway, he was like, of course. And so we we had this very like um spontaneous, fun, super consensual, very like, I don't know, the vibe was just like great. His dick was big, the sex was fun, like I enjoyed it. It I was just like, wow, I have not actually had this happen out in the wild, like randomly like this in so long. And it made me think like there is something, there's definitely something to be said about actually just like going out in person and meeting people like that. Um, that is it is awesome. And I will say that um oh fuck, hold on. My cat just distracted me and I can't remember what I was gonna say. Just a second. Fuck I was gonna say something. I lost my thought. She comes up here, she's gonna be knocking shit over right now. Get get just go down. What else was I gonna say? Hold on, I was gonna say something.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

You were on track too.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

I was, I was so on track. Oh fuck. Anyway, oh my god, this fucking cat. Oh my god, fuck off, seriously, she does this every fucking time. Um, hold on.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

There's something about just just going out, it being natural, just a chemistry, not like a forced okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

I think I don't really remember what I was saying, but I will wrap it up.

SPEAKER_02 28:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

But I will say that like there is something to that. Like what uh we just going out, meeting somebody in the wild and having it kind of flow like that. I think that's maybe what your wife was talking about, like that she doesn't like things that are forced. It's so nice when you when it actually flows, like when you just in the moment and not necessarily wasting all this fucking time texting back and forth, translating the texting, trying to find meaning in what they're talking about, and like, oh, no, thanks.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

Yes, yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 29:06

Okay, that's all I wanted to say about so continue.

SPEAKER_02 29:12

Uh but no, it's just it seems like that has really changed things. It's you know, and sometimes it will go out, and that's what I was gonna say about I wrote this, I wrote a couple notes because I'm a dork. There's no right way to do cuckle inning. I think before her and I thought, you know, you had to be chastity, it had to be this. There'll be some nights, and she's like, uh no, like they're all nope, not happening. She's like, I still want played with. I'm like, okay, that's what I'm here for, you know. Um, and it's just been so much more natural and free-flowing, and that that viblast after one night like that, a week, and it's amazing. And she's just like almost glowing, almost like so freaking happy. So um, yeah, it's all you cook there. Like, get away from the porn, listen to your woman. There's no right way or wrong way. Um, like sometimes I see a lot of people, like, she'll even tell them, like, I'm her cook, and I don't play with others, and I'm not jealous about that. I've got her, I don't need anything else. I'm good with that.

SPEAKER_00 30:18

But then you see a lot of- I want to ask you about that. When you went to the swingers clubs, this is the swingers clubs are for swingers, but you got you, you're not fucking other women. So, how

Consent Control And Club Dynamics

SPEAKER_00 30:28

did that go? When you were at the swingers clubs, were women trying to like hit on you? Were you were you negotiating with other couples?

SPEAKER_02 30:35

Like, oh, oh, we've actually that we've actually had a couple come up to us and you know they're trying to swap and do this, and I'm like, no, I I'm her cook. Like, she plays with others. I just watch sometimes I do participate, um, but it's it's all about her, and uh I honestly don't play. And uh were people weird about it a little bit, a little bit. Uh some weren't, but you know, if they were weird, it wasn't the vibe for us, anyways. And if they were cool, even if we didn't have a connection, they were like cool about it, which also made her feel 10 times better. You know, like okay, like this ain't happened, but like, thank you for your understanding, we're doing the right thing. Um, but then it's like I see a lot of the stags with their vixen, and it's like, you know, it's always the big buff guy, and he's like, This is my hot wife, just go fuck her, and you see her just going out there, and it's almost like getting whored out, and she's not even getting to pick the guy. Like, let her pick, let her have her fun. Like, I get my pleasure from making sure she has pleasure. I think the other role is like he gets pleasure just saying what to do, almost in a forced situation. Yeah, which I'm not saying that's wrong. Maybe that's their kink, and I'm not kink shaming anyone. I'm just saying that's kind of different from what we have found works best for us.

SPEAKER_00 32:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've I've come across couples who they're all it's almost comes, it's this he calls himself a stag, and then he like basically yeah, pimps her out. And um and but she's more of like a slave, so they've got some sort of BDSM kind of power exchange going on. She's a slave, he tells her who to fuck. She has to like ask him permission and like uh or you know anyway. I don't want to ick on somebody's somebody's kink, but like it just fucking I could never like I just I'm just saying that I I'm not saying I could never because it's weird. I'm saying I could never because it doesn't suit who I am.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

It doesn't suit who you are. Yeah, it doesn't mean it's wrong, right? It's just not us. And you know, if you would ask me that two years ago, I couldn't tell you the difference. Well, now I'm like, oh, there's a different difference. Yeah. Um, one's all about him, but the cuck thing is all about her. Uh 24-7 from like, you know, I need my nail stone. Hey, what do you think about this outfit? Which hotel are we getting? You know, like it's, you know, I want a balcony I can fuck on. You know, it's a long list of to-dos for the cuck.

SPEAKER_01 33:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:16

Um, the stags got it easy. They just guys go, hey, fuck him. Let me watch. It's a it's a little different dynamic. Not that it's fad at all, like not king shaming. Just uh two years ago, I would never I thought they were the same thing, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 33:31

Okay. Yeah, people don't uh a lot of the times don't understand the difference between the two. But yeah, I remember in the very beginning when I was first introduced to cuckolding. I was not introduced to hot wifing, I was introduced to the word cuck by my first cuck boyfriend. So, but then after that, when I was like, you know, looking into like when I finally did look into cuckolding, I was I came across that like hot wife, vixen, stay kind of thing. And I was like, okay, is that something, is that what I am? And um, it was always just like a hard no.

SPEAKER_02 34:10

Nope.

SPEAKER_01 34:12

Not me.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

And I also think, you know, the the better your couchling relationship is, I think it always changes, you know. If she has a month, she's like, you're in chastity, that's fine. I mean, she's on a kick now where she's into BDSM, and like the other night, she was a little rough with me, and like, but like, if that changes next month, it's up to her. She's in charge, she's the boss, you know. So, like, I'm just here for the ride. Like, whatever she wants, she's got.

SPEAKER_01 34:41

I love your cute little accent and the way you said it. She was a little rough for me. It was so cute. Oh my god. That's adorable. Your wife sounds like so much fun.

SPEAKER_00 34:57

Like, fuck. I feel like like she's just I love the fact that you guys are evolving, that you kind of like go with the flow, that you make cuckolding what what it should be for you, and not necessarily the cuckolding standards cuckolding script, like people think cuckolding should be done. I love the fact that you guys that she's willing and open to like evolving and trying new things and all that sort of stuff. Because this is still pretty new for you guys.

SPEAKER_02 35:24

Yeah, it is. I mean, we're maybe a year into it, um, and we've had more experiences. Um, and we're just constantly we the more we learn about ourselves, the the better the experiences are. Um, and that's like one thing on the coupling I want to touch on. You know, you you you say coupling, and every guy in America thinks of like interracial porn.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:50

Every single guy. I know for a fact there's a lot of white bulls you wouldn't have an issue with. What we've read across is every time we meet a white guy, it's uh, you know, he's like, well, this is my job. I do this, I make this much money, and I can give you such a better life. And she's like, I'm good. Like, this is just fun for me. It's a date night thing, you know? Yeah, what she likes about the black guys is the confidence, the way they dress, uh, they're just direct, and also it's 1000% about her. Like, she walks in a room and like all eyes are on her, and that's all she wants. Yeah, you know, uh, and it's kind of like best man wins sort of thing, if you will. Um, and that's why she's kind of gone in that direction.

SPEAKER_00 36:43

That best man wins. We know who wins.

SPEAKER_02 36:47

Oh, don't get me started. She's she's getting one of your tattoos next week.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

Wait, what? Yep, no way.

SPEAKER_02 36:55

Yep.

Queen Of Spades Tattoo And Confidence

SPEAKER_01 36:56

She's getting a Queen of Spades tattoo next week? Yes, yes. Oh my god. Welcome to the club, girl.

SPEAKER_02 37:04

She found what she likes, and she's just all in on it. She's even dressing like different, like crop tops, short, short skirts, like oh wow. Loved it. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 37:17

Well, when you know, you know. That's how I felt about it. When I knew, I knew. I was like, oh, and the same thing. I was like, I'm getting a tattoo. I'm gonna get one like ASAP. There was no sitting around like thinking about it, like whatever. And that was the first of three Queen of Space tattoos. Where's she getting it done? Where where on her body is she getting it?

SPEAKER_02 37:39

So I think she's getting it on her side. Um, she was first sticking on her wrist, and then she's like, nah, with work and everything else. And then we've all seen it on everyone's ass. And she's like, I want one on my sides where if I am wearing a bikini, you can see it.

SPEAKER_00 37:57

Oh, I like cute. I like it.

SPEAKER_02 37:59

Yeah, like kind of like a high rib cage kind of thing, you know? So it's like visible when she wants it to be, but not completely out there to where she doesn't have to have bottoms on, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 38:11

And is it just gonna be like a spade symbol with a Q in the center?

SPEAKER_02 38:16

Uh basically, yeah. She's looked at a couple different designs. Thank you, chat GPT. She's been busy with that.

SPEAKER_01 38:23

That's so funny.

SPEAKER_00 38:26

Oh my god, this is so and so how do you feel about her getting a Queen of Spades tattoo? Like, she's all in now on Black Eyes. How did that happen?

SPEAKER_02 38:35

Well, I was mad she didn't get it. She's supposed to get yesterday and something came up. So no, I'm good with that. No, I'm good. Like, like what I can't understand is I'm her person, and she can have bullshit for the fun. But like, yeah, it's it's temporary fun, you know. Um, it's it's one night or one weekend or whatever, even if it's the same person. Uh I'm here 24-7. And this is actually boosted my confidence times 10. Watching some of this shit, and I'm still good the next day. Like, man, I can get through anything.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

Yes. Uh, that's why cuts are strong. Yes, they're yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:16

So no, I'm excited. Uh, it's just seeing her so much happier. Not like she wasn't happy with me. It's just we needed that extra, like, like I said, I can tell her she looks hot all the time, but when some random guy says it at a bar, it goes way farther. You know, it just it's it's a huge difference.

SPEAKER_00 39:38

So I want to ask you about the last time we talked, you had been locked up for like two years

Chastity Breaks Reclaiming Sex Beyond PIV

SPEAKER_00 39:46

without PIV, uh, or not locked the entire time, but without PIV sex for two years. And then you guys took a break, and you the the cage came off. You guys were, you know, having PIV sex again. What was that like for you to go from being completely sexually denied as far as PIV um to then having it again?

SPEAKER_02 40:11

Um complete it's almost like going to a theme park and riding on two different rides. Because the one was awesome, and this is too. Um and she will like like okay, like if she's on her period, she's like, you're you're getting locked up. I'm like, okay, that works.

SPEAKER_01 40:28

Fair. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:29

Yeah. Like, um, or she's in a bad maid, you know, like, but like when things are like good and hot and heavy, we've we've listened to a ton of podcasts, and we don't feel like a hundred percent no PIV is like perfect because like you start losing feelings, you know, you forget who that person is. So she's kind of gotten into some like reclaiming sex, and I tell you what, that shit is like after watching her for hours on end and then being the last guy to go, it's wild. It's uh it's it's the brush best drug you'll ever have. Um and I would recommend that, but you gotta you gotta let her her make that decision. If she doesn't want to, then you just like okay, I'll wait until you're ready. But if she's like, I want you to finish now, I'm like, okay. So uh oh wow. Um it's always changing.

SPEAKER_01 41:28

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 41:29

It it is, it's uh amazing. It's uh it's always changing and adapting. Um, you just gotta go with the full cucks, just listen to your woman, whatever she wants, just give it to her.

SPEAKER_00 41:42

Yes. So I I love that how you explain that. It's like being at an amusement park uh and and being on two different rides. The thrill is just as fun on both, I'm assuming. Yes, but in in a different way.

SPEAKER_02 41:57

Correct. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 42:00

I think one of the advantages of chastity is that it it expands your sense of intimacy. Um, it expands your intimacy, but also it expands your sexual options. Like it's not really about, I feel like it's not really about um depleting options or limiting options as far as sex, which most people think like, oh, you're not having PIV. Like, oh, well, then you're not having sex. Uh uh I hate that. The default should not be PIV. Oh, yeah, no.

SPEAKER_02 42:34

Uh in that in that period of time frame, oh my god, I went down on her probably three times a day. Like, yeah, my tongue, I could I could probably have a uh bicep on it right now, as much as I go down on her. Like, yeah, that's like and that still sucks, you know?

SPEAKER_00 42:50

Yes, it's just uh and it's bonding, it's a bonding thing.

SPEAKER_02 42:55

Yeah, it's just uh I just don't think there's any right or wrong way. I think you gotta find what works best for you guys and just kind of go from there. I just don't think nothing's set in stone.

SPEAKER_00 43:06

A couple of the guys that I fucked with this year um have not included PIV sex at all. And both of them have told me that a certain experience that we shared together was the most erotic experience of their life to date. And I was just like, there you go.

SPEAKER_01 43:27

Like see what happens when you expand beyond the PIV sex script, like what always normal sex.

SPEAKER_02 43:38

If we go like two weeks without her playing with someone, PIV sex is good, but it it feels kind of somehow forced a little bit. But if I just go down on her and I I am like so close to her, you can feel her warmth, her legs shaking, her legs around my head, you know, her fingernails on the top and back of my head, it is such more intimate. You can taste it, you can feel it getting wetter. It's such a different experience. Um, after she plays with somebody, I'm like, she won't be able to walk for days because I am like so turned on and like just can't stop touching her. Yeah, it's it's yeah, it's yeah, like guys, if you need Viagra, just let somebody else fuck your wife for a few hours and then fuck her afterwards. You're you'll be golden, trust me.

SPEAKER_00 44:37

It's so true though. It's the it's that flood of testosterone and other hormones that guys get when they actually either think about their wife fucking somebody else or watch her fuck somebody else. It literally just gives them like the most hard erections and the that that like deep desire to it triggers that deep desire to want to compete and therefore to perform. And so all the things in his body just like react like that. I'm sure you can relate to one another.

SPEAKER_02 45:08

Yeah, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 45:11

It's just like that. That's why I think cuckolding is such a fucking amazing experience, especially for guys. Guys, I don't that same experience doesn't happen for us women. We don't have the same biological response when we fuck some other guy, but like it is really still fun for us. But that's why I think cuckolding has such a big pull for guys because like it's that biological reaction where you have this like insane desire to perform.

SPEAKER_02 45:38

I think it's perfect because like we get what we want, and it's just the amazing, it's mental, it's physical, it's everything. You get what she wants, it's the beforehand, you know, the nails, the hair, being being sought after, wanted, feeling just lusted after. And then at the end, knowing she's still taken care of and loved. On the reverse side, you know, if I just go out to a bar. Fucking chick. Well, I'm just a guy fucking a chick. And there's like to me, it's like, ugh. I'm I'm getting past. Like, I got this better thing going on, guys.

SPEAKER_00 46:12

Oh my god, I love that so much. It's so true. Okay, so what you guys have you're only a year into this, and you've done so many things, you've you've you know dived in, you've took a break, you're exploring different stuff, you're having a good time, you're figuring out what works and what doesn't work, and you're evolving and doing things the way that you want to do them. Uh, what do you see in your future as far as this kind of lifestyle goes? Like, what are your

Gangbang Planning And Splash Mocha Goals

SPEAKER_00 46:40

do you have some goals that you want to accomplish? Do you see yourself evolving in a different way? What do you hope for?

SPEAKER_02 46:47

So we have two, and like she's like pedaled to the floor right now, like, you know, I'm getting my tattoo next week, we're doing this. Um we actually uh recently tried to set up a gangbang, that's one of her new fantasies. But goodness gracious, that is almost impossible to set up. Oh like and that's one thing you can't do naturally, and I'm gonna have to think on that one. Uh, you know, we uh I tried to vet a bunch of guys and they wouldn't send the tests. Uh got a handful of guys that were supposed to be coming, and like one did, and that was great. And then like the other one said he was there, but he went to the wrong room, and just it's that's one of her fantasies coming up. And and we're not talking like 20, like she just wants like probably three or four. Just enough to like she feels like she's surrounded and kind of the attention's on her. But I think our biggest goal for this next year, uh, after the holidays, probably going to one of the splash mock events. Yeah, uh, I've always heard about it from you and a few other podcasts. Uh, I've done my research. Uh, I think that would be the best fit for her and her next endeavor.

SPEAKER_00 48:04

Yeah, if I ever travel to the US again, right now Canadians are like, fuck you, to Trump. Like, we're not we're not traveling to the US. It's literally the fucking boycott of all boycotts right now going on. Um, but if I ever travel to the US again, I would love to go to Splash Monga. It would be fun if we went to the same one and I could meet you guys. That would be so fun.

SPEAKER_02 48:26

That would be amazing. I would love that. She would too. Y'all would have such a great time.

SPEAKER_00 48:32

Um, also, I was gonna mention if she's looking to organize a gangbang, there is um Pagan who goes by the four whoresmen on Twitter. Um I I know he was organizing gangbangs, but I don't know if he is anymore. So you can always look into that. Um yeah, the four whoresmen on Twitter. Um, but yeah, I know he was, and he was like, but maybe he's been bombarded. I don't know. But there are some groups of guys out there who do try to make that happen and help facilitate that because they know like other guys who work well with them and as far as like you know, the whole gangbang thing goes, so it makes it easier. But yeah, shit. I want a gangbang for my wedding night if I ever get married, and I am kind of like stressing out about having to organize that because there's a lot that goes into that where it's just like shit could go with it.

SPEAKER_02 49:27

It's hard to find it's hard to find two guys, much less like three or four at the same time, test it, and then they all get along together. Can they perform in front of the other guys? Are they cool with the husband in the room? Like, yeah, it's yeah, it's it's it's a lot. So I will look him up to see if he's still doing that.

SPEAKER_00 49:47

Yeah, yeah. He might hate that I put that out there on the show right now because he's gonna get bombarded, but it's all good.

SPEAKER_02 49:54

It's all good. It's for a good cause, guys. It's all good.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

It is.

SPEAKER_00 49:59

Um, okay. Do you have any um uh contact information or um FetLife profile that you would like to share with the listeners before

FetLife Contact And Closing Notes

SPEAKER_00 50:08

we end this today?

SPEAKER_02 50:10

Yeah, uh she's a uh Brooked2983.

SPEAKER_00 50:14

Um FetLife. On FetLife. Okay, I'll put that in the show notes as well. Um, for anybody who's looking to um connect, if you have a question or a comment about that and you want to connect with Brooke or Zach, um, you can um reach out on FetLife through that profile. Zach, it's been so fun to have you on the show today.

SPEAKER_02 50:34

This is a good time.

SPEAKER_00 50:36

This has been such a fun update, and I love I love hearing about what's working and what didn't work and all that sort of stuff and how you guys are evolving and doing your own thing. I think that's amazing. And I love that she's getting a tattoo. This is so great.

SPEAKER_02 50:51

Don't worry, we'll post it on Fat Live. It's coming up.

SPEAKER_00 50:54

Awesome. Okay, Zach, thank you so much for being on the show today. This has been great.

SPEAKER_02 50:59

Awesome. Good talk to you, Venus.

SPEAKER_00 51:03

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